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This is true. I checked on BB's website and it showing that all 3 monitors are at the location near me so i will probably check them out tonite. I was thinking of not getting the nec gx2 because if I have to turn down the brightness it might be easier to get one thats not as bright. I guess the one thats in the middle would be the 931c or the 941bf. Any objections if I pick the 940bf?
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940BF is probably a good choice also, but you'll have to turn down the brightness on it as well.... that's true for ANY monitor on the market today. "Brightness" should not really be a criterion for anything.... they all have waaaayy more than they need.
 
this is what I've read about the samsung 904B:

"The 5ms response time of the 204B is decent even though the 204B has much lower contrast ratio of 800:1."

is that good or bad? simple question, should require just a simple answer - no technobabble.
 
this is what I've read about the samsung 904B:

"The 5ms response time of the 204B is decent even though the 204B has much lower contrast ratio of 800:1."

is that good or bad? simple question, should require just a simple answer - no technobabble.
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Simple answer... "Irrelevant"
 
this is what I've read about the samsung 904B:

"The 5ms response time of the 204B is decent even though the 204B has much lower contrast ratio of 800:1."

is that good or bad? simple question, should require just a simple answer - no technobabble.
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Simple answer... "Irrelevant"

hardly
 
this is what I've read about the samsung 904B:

"The 5ms response time of the 204B is decent even though the 204B has much lower contrast ratio of 800:1."

is that good or bad? simple question, should require just a simple answer - no technobabble.
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Simple answer... "Irrelevant"

hardly

If you're only going to use 200-250 CR, then any number like 800:1 or 8000:1 is irrelevant.
 
Sorry, I didnt mean I need to, I meant to say I wanted to get another 2GB kit. Simcity4000 is a little sluggish although since I changed from 1GB to 2GB total its gotten better. When I had 4GB of RAM in (long story why I dont now) and my computer was flying. I got up to stretch and it was already at my desktop lol. I fell in love with that. See Im anal when it comes to performance when i catch a glimpse of it lol.

* Im going to BestBuy tonite to check out the 3 monitors apparently I was typing wrong and all 4 monitors are at the bestbuy I get my dvd's.
Samsung 931c, 941bf, Viewsonic vx922, and the NEC gx2. Im not goign to rush but im tired of squinting with my 17" CRT.

Not sure if this was covered but whats an IDEAL contrast ratio for non-FPS games? If there is none and its personal choice what would be a recommendation?
 
Ok. I get it Hose. It all depends on my liking what I see on the demo. what I prefer. What I like might not what someone else likes and they get a different monitor and so fourth. At least the ones Im eying are good. I was on Bestbuys website and my luck, the LCD's I was looking at arent in the store anymore. I hate when that happens. I saw 2 LG LCD monitors (2ms response time, 700:1 contrast and 300-400 brightness) that have identical specs of the Samsungs which I will check out. The NEC gx2 however is in stock at the store, Ill check it out as well. Going to check some reviews on the LG's. Hey I like there phones lol.


LoL this week Im going to circuitcity and bestbuy. It would of been nice if all of the monitors were in one place lol. A new monitor is in my eye now....LG L1932TQ
 
this is what I've read about the samsung 904B:

"The 5ms response time of the 204B is decent even though the 204B has much lower contrast ratio of 800:1."

is that good or bad? simple question, should require just a simple answer - no technobabble.
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the reason why its not simple is simple...

"White / Black = contrast ratio.


Now it is tempting for the manufacturer to [submit] a higher contrast ratio.

The manufacturer can improve [lower] the black colour, but this operation is very difficult...The other possibility is to rise up the white colour of the lightning by adding neon tubes or replacing them by brighter neon tubes.

Under those circumstances it is possible to reach a 500 cd/m² white.
But in fact this screen will only be annoyingly bright...
Actually, the recommended brightness should not exceed 110 cd/m². CRT screens brightness is 90 cd/m². All 250 cd/m² screens (and most of the LCD screen are) are too bright. This brightness is annoying, it is a strain on the eyes and you will almost certainly reduce it manually.
In a nutshell, contrast ratios are currently measured in a non-representative way."
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fyi - typing on a 204b right now, and its very pretty but i would never use it for any fps games (serious ghosting). does ok on something like a flight sim though if your not picky.
 
"White / Black = contrast ratio.

The manufacturer can improve [lower] the black colour, but this operation is very difficult...The other possibility is to rise up the white colour of the lightning by adding neon tubes or replacing them by brighter neon tubes.

Under those circumstances it is possible to reach a 500 cd/m² white.
But in fact this screen will only be annoyingly bright...
Actually, the recommended brightness should not exceed 110 cd/m². CRT screens brightness is 90 cd/m². All 250 cd/m² screens (and most of the LCD screen are) are too bright. This brightness is annoying, it is a strain on the eyes and you will almost certainly reduce it manually.
In a nutshell, contrast ratios are currently measured in a non-representative way."
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My point exactly! Even if the CR is claimed at "10,000:1", it's worthless if it was achieved with a brain-burning bright light.

The ONLY thing that will help improve CR in a usable way is to lower the luminescence of the black.

If you want a monitor with "good" CR, you'll have to find a way to learn what the reading* on the black is. This info is not readily available. (Maybe what we need to do is call the manufacturer and ask to speak to a tech person?)

*"Good" in today's monitors would be .2, to .4 cd/m^2 (nits)
"Average" = .6 nits
"Undesirable" = >.6 nits... some have .8, or .9. Others might be even worse.. haven't seen any, though.
 
my current monitor (LG L1710B) is 16m/s and I don't have any 'ghosting' problems with it. The only problems I have are with the small screen size/resolution of 1280 x 1040. Perhaps it will be a trade-off - slightly poorer picture quality in exchange for much larger desktop space.
 
Hiya. After visiting BB, Ive narrowed my choices to the Viewsonic vx922, Samsung 940bf and the 931c. LoL they were getting desperate, i asked them if they can put a game on the LCD's and 2 ran to put Civilization 4 on. One thing that bugs me is the way the LCD screen for the 940bf is...on an angle. The vx922 is catching me because its tall and basically almost straight. The 931 because of its backlight and the high contrast along with 2ms response time. Then again Ive read reviews were the 2000:1 contrast is bs, then theyre are people who love the monitor. I think I might be change my mind to the surething--vx922.

I forgot to ask, is the vertical and horizontal refresh rates something to take note of. Teh Samsung and the Viewsonic differ a little in both refresh rates.
 
Hiya. After visiting BB, Ive narrowed my choices to the Viewsonic vx922, Samsung 940bf and the 931c. LoL they were getting desperate, i asked them if they can put a game on the LCD's and 2 ran to put Civilization 4 on. One thing that bugs me is the way the LCD screen for the 940bf is...on an angle. The vx922 is catching me because its tall and basically almost straight. The 931 because of its backlight and the high contrast along with 2ms response time. Then again Ive read reviews were the 2000:1 contrast is bs, then theyre are people who love the monitor. I think I might be change my mind to the surething--vx922.

I forgot to ask, is the vertical and horizontal refresh rates something to take note of. Teh Samsung and the Viewsonic differ a little in both refresh rates.
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Any of those will be a good choice.

Did you not get to see the NEC 90GX2, or did you just decide against it?
 
Hose you know, I didnt have anything against you until you mentioned the 90gx2 😱 😱 . Thanx I cleared it from my mind and now its back. Yes I saw it and yes I was amazed and ALMOST completely drawn in. Just like the Izuzu commerical, I almost said "I'll take it" without anyone saying anything there. The price was so inflated there. 8O 8O
One thing that I am noticing on the 90gx2 is the response time of 4ms. The other monitors have 2ms. I heard, 2ms is what I should get. I know in this huge post and everyone recommends lower than 8ms but wouldnt the fastest (2ms) be better or am I being anal again??

P.S I was kidding about having anything against you :)
 
Hose you know, I didnt have anything against you until you mentioned the 90gx2 😱 😱 . Thanx I cleared it from my mind and now its back. Yes I saw it and yes I was amazed and ALMOST completely drawn in. Just like the Izuzu commerical, I almost said "I'll take it" without anyone saying anything there. The price was so inflated there. 8O 8O
One thing that I am noticing on the 90gx2 is the response time of 4ms. The other monitors have 2ms. I heard, 2ms is what I should get. I know in this huge post and everyone recommends lower than 8ms but wouldnt the fastest (2ms) be better or am I being anal again??

P.S I was kidding about having anything against you :)
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Yes, anal!

We know the response times claims by makers are bogus, so who knows what the real deal is? From what I've read on reviews at x-bit Labs and other places, NOBODY has poduced a 2ms, average, monitor yet... regardless of claims. (If they can measure ONE shade change at 2ms, that's what they officially claim is the speed... though the range might be 2ms to 70ms, with an average of 12ms.... just more marketing skank-ness.)

The Viewsonic VX924 (4ms) came out just before the VX922 (2ms), and one of the reviews said, "we can't measure any difference, so if you get the chance to buy the 924 on sale, do so."

FWIW... the 90GX2 is being replaced with "90GX2 Pro" (2ms)... I think they are targeting anal retentive guys like you. (Sounds like it will work, too.) 😀
 
FWIW... the 90GX2 is being replaced with "90GX2 Pro" (2ms)... I think they are targeting anal retentive guys like you. (Sounds like it will work, too.) 😀
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Very funny, verry funny lol 😀 😀 😀 😀

Thanks to you, now my choice is between the 90gx2 and the vx922 :lol: :lol:
The vx922 is the sure thing while everyone glows about the 90gx2 and yes Ive read the reviews :)
 
FWIW... the 90GX2 is being replaced with "90GX2 Pro" (2ms)... I think they are targeting anal retentive guys like you. (Sounds like it will work, too.) 😀
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Very funny, verry funny lol 😀 😀 😀 😀

Thanks to you, now my choice is between the 90gx2 and the vx922 :lol: :lol:
The vx922 is the sure thing while everyone glows about the 90gx2 and yes Ive read the reviews :)

Maybe you should get one of each and set them up side-by-side. Then you could have a dual, duel.
 
FWIW... the 90GX2 is being replaced with "90GX2 Pro" (2ms)... I think they are targeting anal retentive guys like you. (Sounds like it will work, too.) 😀
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Very funny, verry funny lol 😀 😀 😀 😀

Thanks to you, now my choice is between the 90gx2 and the vx922 :lol: :lol:
The vx922 is the sure thing while everyone glows about the 90gx2 and yes Ive read the reviews :)

Maybe you should get one of each and set them up side-by-side. Then you could have a dual, duel.


I am not listening to you Obi-wan :lol:

(In all honesty Im torn between the vx922 and the 90gx2
 
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