What's best, WiFi Router, Access Point or WiFi extender?

MeneerWitte

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:hello:

Kindly I ask your attention.

System:

- Windows 7 x64 Ultimate


Hardware:

- Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6230, Dual Band Enabled
- Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter (2x) Disabled


Hardware drivers/software:

- Intel, 08-12-2013, driver 15.9.2.2


Attachments to the WiFi hardware:

- 2x 6 meter cable and based antenna's + 3 meter cable


Hardware specifications translated:

- Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6230:

Essentials:

Status : Launched
Introduction date : 2011
Bord vormfactor : PCIe Half MiniCard
Wight (in grams) : 4
Work temperatures : 0°C - 80°C
Supported Operating Systems : Microsoft Windows 7 32/64-bit, Linux

Network Specifications :

TX/RX streams : 2x2
Bands : 2.4 GHz/5 Ghz
Maximum transfer : 300 Mbps
Wi-Fi CERTIFIED* : 802.11a/g/n
Nakoming ????? : PCI, CISP, FIPS, FISMA
Integrated Bluetooth : Yes
Type systeminterface : PCIe

Package Specifications:

Package size : 26.80 mm x 30 mm x 3.10 mm Top / 1.35 mm Bottom

Advanced Technologies:

Intel® Wireless Display : Yes
WiMAX wireless 4G-technology : No
Supported under vPro : Yes

Hardware Settings:

802.11n-channelwight 2.4 band Auto
802.11n-channelwight 5.2 band Auto
802.11n-Modus Enabled
Activate after Magic-pack Enabled
Ad-hoc QoS-modus WMM disabled
Ad-hocChannel 802.11b/g 11
Argression by sworm Normal
ARP-offload for WoWLAN Enabled
Security mixed modus CTS-to-self Enabled
Bluetooth(R) AMP Enabled
Wireless modus 802.11a/b/g
GTK re-new encryption for WoWLAN Enabled
Not compatible with 40-Mhz channel Disabled
NS-offload for WowLAN Enabled
Patern simularity Enabled
Sleep when no WoWLAN-connection Disabled
Send Power Energy Highest
Band of choise Non

I put Alluminium foil tape around the Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6230, it's grounded at the PCI-card front. To reduce interfarences from outsite like Processor, Graphic-card, fans and whatever.


- Cable specification:

6M Antenna RP-SMA Extension Cable For WiFi Wi-Fi Router RG174 Coaxial Cable

http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFEQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCoaxial_cable&ei=-o1iU_uKHsjbPauogBg&usg=AFQjCNHEBgDUyC_AGamg4edWU-XxXqkjbA&bvm=bv.65788261,d.ZWU

https://www.google.nl/#q=+RG174+Coaxial+Cable+specs


- Base Antenna specification:

Hawking HAI7SIP 7dBi Omni directional Antenna

Hawking Technologies' HAI7SIP, 2.4GHz Hi-Gain Wi-Fi antenna boosts your wireless signal strength from 2dBi (standard power) to 7dBi. A large problem with many wireless networks is the poor coverage area of standard Access Points and Wireless Routers. The Hawking HAI7SIP is an easy to install solution that plugs directly into the antenna port of your existing wireless device. By upgrading your external wireless antenna to a high grade 7dBi Hawking antenna your wireless signal strength, wireless operating distance and overall performance is significantly improved.


- Arcadyan VGV7519 Experia box v8 specification:

According to my information, the box can only have a maximum datastream of 144Mb.

Security type WPA, WPA2
MAC-adres blokkade Yes
Dualband No
Ethernetcable delivered Yes
Wireless protocol 2,4 GHz b/g/n
Wireless protocol 5,0 GHz -
Test year 2014
Test month 4
Comes with abonnement CanalDigitaal; KPN; Telfort

Wireless Properties:

Dualband No
Wireless protocol 2,4 GHz b/g/n
Wireless protocol 5,0 GHz -
Channels 2,4 GHz 1-13
Channels 5,0 GHz -
Automatic choose channel Yes
Automatic choose channel settings 0
Set channel manually 0
Host netwerk No

Security:

Security type WPA, WPA2
WPA2-Security standard on Yes
WPS-button standard off Yes
WPS-pin standard off Yes
Firewall standard on Yes

Sizes:

Hight inclusive antenna's 16,9 cm
Hight 16,9 cm
Wight 23,9 cm
Depth 5,9 cm

More Properties:

Ethernetkable delivered Yes
Wall options Yes
IPv6 prepaired Yes
Internet connetion availlable Yes
Power LED Yes
Activity LED No
QOS Yes
URL Blokkade Yes
MAC-address blokkade Yes
MAC-address White list Yes
Option for Parent Control No
Comes with abonnement CanalDigitaal; KPN; Telfort


The situation is this:

The WiFi router is down stairs, the floor is concrete with steel ofcourse, the distance will be about +/- 9 meter diagonal.

The connection is mostly Acceptable with data transfers of 1, 2, 4, 5,5, 6, 11, 19.
Sometimes it's very pore.
One moment I can download with several 100 Kbs and the next only bites.

It takes a long time to connect to the Internet and to load webpages, even search engines like Google.

In the past I had a lot of BlueScreens because of it. Intel improved there software very well, one BlueScreen happened and non more.

I can't move the router, only the 2 antenna's. But they are already placed best so far.
At the wall where the antenna's are placed, is a power supply, about 5 meters from them.


The question I have is:

What will be best?


Another router as Access Point/HotSpot/Extender or a special WiFi Extender?

Well, I might be able to put them beneth the floor, between the router and antenna's.
But I'm not surten about it, because of a constant power supply.
No matter what, I can't extend the internet connection cable.


When it's a WiFi Extender:

Why?

Is it a plugin or what?

How and what to do and/or weblinks please?


When it will be a router:

Why?

Which one is best, which software to install and so on and/or weblinks please?

When I install a second router behind the first router, will the second router have a sepparated internet acces according to the first one, or will it go by the first router?

Because when second router has the same internet connection, but the second router options could be uses without having interferings from the first router, I could set the next to anything I like.

When it goes by the first router, I only will have all the options of the first router I guess.

The problem with the Experia Box v8 is that it's not a good router and surten not for gamers.

Well?

Many thanks in advance! :)

Hopefully I let you known enough, that you will find the answers we seek! :)

Good luck and have fun doing it! :)

Best Regards,

MeneerWitte

PS:
When you have questions or whatever, just answer with a question and I will look into it.

Would it be possible to have the router/Plug&Play extender dualbanded and let have the router/ router/extender 2.4Ghz and router/extender / reciever have 5Ghz?

You know, from router to extender/or whatever make use of 2.4Ghz (the router can only carry 2.4Ghz) and have it pass through on the 5Ghz band.

I know the datastream will be reduced to 144:2=72Mb and that the 2.4Ghz can coope better when having concrete floors and walls, then the 5Ghz band.
 


:hello:

Kindly I ask your attention.

Just asking, I don't know anything about it.

Are you familiar with WiFi Routers and WiFi Exstenders?

I know that a router should do more than a extender/repeter, if you ask me and that is why they are more expensive I guess.

I could be wrong, that's why I ask!

Hopefully I let you known enough, that you will find the answers you seek! :)

Good luck and have fun doing it! :)

Best Regards,

MeneerWitte
 
You almost can't fix the issue of wireless passing though concrete, it tends to be very good at absorbing signal.

You might get some better results with a direction antenna to try to concentrate the power though the concrete. This may not work though since it is only 1/2 the issue the route also may need direction antenna.

A repeater will actually make the problem worse if you just place it in the same location as your current antenna. It will reduce by half your throughput and it will just cut in half your already poor signal. You need to place the repeater in a location that is close to the router that it gets good signal but can still provide good signal. With concrete walls/floors you like get strong signal on one side and weak on the other. It not like you can put the repeater in the middle of the wall. A hole drilled though the concrete though would allow the antenna to be put on the other side.

Your only real solution is to go with another technology like powerline networks or MoCA if you have tv coax.
 
Repeaters rarely work as desired, they often drop connection, they add more rf, and work at halfed bandwidth.

There is going to be little you can do to make a good wifi signal between a concrete floor.

As stated by others, powerline network adapter is your best option (next to hardwired ethernet of course).

You can then configre a router as an access point so that it is still one big netowrk (dissable nat and spi firewalls, dissble dhcp, assign access point an IP in subnet of primary router, and plug ethernet into LAN port instead of WAN). When configuring the access point, be sure to put its wireless antenna channel on a different primary channel then your primary router. While there are 11 wifi channels, the channels should be seperated by 5 channels, so channel 1, 6, and 11. Thus if your primary router uses channel 1, use channel 6 or 11 (whichever one is least used by neighbors)>