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which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
quality.. basically all round performance at every level?

Windows XP Pro
AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
80 gb hdd
512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
3.5" Floppy

OR

Windows XP home SP2
Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
160 gb hdd
64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
CD-RW
DVD-ROM
3.5" Floppy
 
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"Christo" <chris@juststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2phscmFl10d7U1@uni-berlin.de...
> which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
> quality.. basically all round performance at every level?
>
> Windows XP Pro
> AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
> 80 gb hdd
> 512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
> 256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
> CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
> 3.5" Floppy
>
> OR
>
> Windows XP home SP2
> Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
> 160 gb hdd
> 64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
> 512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
> CD-RW
> DVD-ROM
> 3.5" Floppy
>

With the 2500+ and DDR400 chances are you can overclock to 3200+ levels,
providing the PC isn't an OEM one with a crippled BIOS.
 
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AMD. A cellery processor is a cellery processor.
XP Pro over XP Home if it is as simple as a choice.
Can't comment on the graphics...

However consider an AMD 64bit system. There is tons of room for growth in
the AMD 64 family, the motherboards do not seem to be much more expensive,
and the processors are good. You will gain benefit from 64bit immediately
(better performance, less heat than a equiv. Intel proc) without having to
feel any pressure to go to a 64 bit OS before you and it are ready. In this
neck of the woods, some resellers stock *only* AMD 64 bit or Intel P4.


- Tim

"Christo" <chris@juststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2phscmFl10d7U1@uni-berlin.de...
> which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
> quality.. basically all round performance at every level?
>
> Windows XP Pro
> AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
> 80 gb hdd
> 512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
> 256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
> CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
> 3.5" Floppy
>
> OR
>
> Windows XP home SP2
> Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
> 160 gb hdd
> 64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
> 512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
> CD-RW
> DVD-ROM
> 3.5" Floppy
>
 
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"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:ch0gav$o2d$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> AMD. A cellery processor is a cellery processor.
> XP Pro over XP Home if it is as simple as a choice.
> Can't comment on the graphics...
>
> However consider an AMD 64bit system. There is tons of room for growth in
> the AMD 64 family, the motherboards do not seem to be much more expensive,
> and the processors are good. You will gain benefit from 64bit immediately
> (better performance, less heat than a equiv. Intel proc) without having to
> feel any pressure to go to a 64 bit OS before you and it are ready. In
> this neck of the woods, some resellers stock *only* AMD 64 bit or Intel
> P4.
>
>
> - Tim
>
> "Christo" <chris@juststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:2phscmFl10d7U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
>> quality.. basically all round performance at every level?
>>
>> Windows XP Pro
>> AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
>> 80 gb hdd
>> 512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
>> 256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
>> CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
>> 3.5" Floppy
>>
>> OR
>>
>> Windows XP home SP2
>> Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
>> 160 gb hdd
>> 64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
>> 512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
>> CD-RW
>> DVD-ROM
>> 3.5" Floppy
>>

Yeah but dont AMD 64 Processors require a 64bit OS?

or is standard XP abl to run?
>
>
 
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Christo wrote:

> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:ch0gav$o2d$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>
>>AMD. A cellery processor is a cellery processor.
>>XP Pro over XP Home if it is as simple as a choice.
>>Can't comment on the graphics...
>>
>>However consider an AMD 64bit system.
>
> Yeah but dont AMD 64 Processors require a 64bit OS?

No.

>
> or is standard XP abl to run?
>

Yes.


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"Phil" <_invalid_@no_spam_.invalid_> wrote in message
news:Xv6dneVd8cs93ancRVn-iw@eclipse.net.uk...
>
> "Christo" <chris@juststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:2phscmFl10d7U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
> > quality.. basically all round performance at every level?
> >
> > Windows XP Pro
> > AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
> > 80 gb hdd
> > 512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
> > 256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
> > CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
> > 3.5" Floppy
> >
> > OR
> >
> > Windows XP home SP2
> > Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
> > 160 gb hdd
> > 64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
> > 512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
> > CD-RW
> > DVD-ROM
> > 3.5" Floppy
> >
>
> With the 2500+ and DDR400 chances are you can overclock to 3200+ levels,
> providing the PC isn't an OEM one with a crippled BIOS.
>
>

the AMD one is a self build, I have heard alot about overlocking, point me
any directions as to where i can learn (as a novice)?
 
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:26:06 +0100, "Christo" <chris@juststuff.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Phil" <_invalid_@no_spam_.invalid_> wrote in message
>news:Xv6dneVd8cs93ancRVn-iw@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> "Christo" <chris@juststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:2phscmFl10d7U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> > which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
>> > quality.. basically all round performance at every level?
>> >
>> > Windows XP Pro
>> > AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
>> > 80 gb hdd
>> > 512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
>> > 256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
>> > CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
>> > 3.5" Floppy
>> >
>> > OR
>> >
>> > Windows XP home SP2
>> > Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
>> > 160 gb hdd
>> > 64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
>> > 512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
>> > CD-RW
>> > DVD-ROM
>> > 3.5" Floppy
>> >
>>
>> With the 2500+ and DDR400 chances are you can overclock to 3200+ levels,
>> providing the PC isn't an OEM one with a crippled BIOS.
>>
>>
>
>the AMD one is a self build, I have heard alot about overlocking, point me
>any directions as to where i can learn (as a novice)?
>

If the mobo and ram support 200MHz, set FSB and Ram speeds to 200MHz,
raise CPU Vcore (1.65V is default) so she's stable, not sure what it
takes to get a 2500+ to 3200+ I'm guessing 1.725v-1.75V, my barton 2800+
runs as 3200+ @ 1.675v.

Barton 2500+ (166x11.0)
Barton 3200+ (200x11.0)
Ed
 
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Rob Stow wrote:
> Christo wrote:
>
>> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:ch0gav$o2d$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>> AMD. A cellery processor is a cellery processor.
>>> XP Pro over XP Home if it is as simple as a choice.
>>> Can't comment on the graphics...
>>>
>>> However consider an AMD 64bit system.
>>
>>
>> Yeah but dont AMD 64 Processors require a 64bit OS?
>
>
> No.
>
>>
>> or is standard XP abl to run?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
But you may run the WinXP x64 preview OS (360 days trial), too (dual
boot) - if you have the Athlon 64 (with its Cool 'n Quiet feature).

Roy
 
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>which sounds like the better system to you, specifically for speed and
>quality.. basically all round performance at every level?

The first one. I've not found a system yet with decent video game
performance when it comes being onboard.

HDD, 80 will do, and always add another later.

Ram, no real difference, depends on the motherboard.

XP pro is better if there is no difference in costs, but if you will
not be using the computer on a network (LAN), then "home" does the
same job. (there are a few diferences, but it is not likely they will
be missed)

the celeron my be good for some or a few tasks, but overall, the
athlon will be ahead. (if it was a 2000xp athlon, then I would lean
towards the celeron (if similar prices)

nothing else is listed as being different, so I'll end here.

A

>Windows XP Pro
>AMD XP2500+ 333 mhz FSB 512k L2 Cache
>80 gb hdd
>512 mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM
>256 mb nVidia XFX5200 8xAGP Graphics Card
>CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
>3.5" Floppy
>
>OR
>
>Windows XP home SP2
>Intel Celeron 2.80 ghz 400 mhz FSB 128k L2 Cache
>160 gb hdd
>64 mb OnBoard Intel Extreme Graphics
>512 mb DDR333 PC2700 RAM
>CD-RW
>DVD-ROM
>3.5" Floppy
>