What's In Your Arsenal? (Gaming Equipment)

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Hey everyone! I have some extra cash after building my rig and I've decided to buy some stuff from the guy who put my computer together for me. I got a used Razer Lycosa & Abyssus for $60, and I just picked up a Razer Nostromo. I'm also using a Rocketfish Wired Gaming Headset (PC, XBOX 360, PS3, & iPod/Cell Phone). I love the equipment in my arsenal and thinking about getting some more stuff like I gotten the Nostromo for Star Wars: The Old Republic and other RPG's like Diablo 1-3. I play on my desktop but when I go out of town for a few days (4-6 times a year) I use my old laptop with 1.8 GHz single core so I play old games (Diablo 1, Star Wars Commandos, ect).

So, what do you have in your arsenal? Any advice on what I should I get? Such as a back up keyboard, mouse, headset, ect. Or what type of a mouse pad? Even for the laptop. I might take my Nostromo and Abyssus with me but not sure. Any advice or why you have it and like it in your arsenal would be much apperciated and will help me what I want to get. Thanks in advance. =)
 
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I used to use the Belkin Nostromo n52, which I believe was bought by Razer, so it's pretty much what I used to use. It's not bad, but I prefer the G13. The main advantage is the Lua script options for the G13, which allowed me to do something that always annoyed me to no end about the Nostromo; I can program it to do a shift state change from my mouse button. Now pushing a thumb button on my mouse gives me 2-3 times more hotkeys than I had with the nostromo. Of course this takes advanced programing, but I made a fairly easy to use template script which makes all adjustments easy, including advanced macroing beyond what can normally be done (and some automated scripting, which shouldn't be done).

I also have a 3D Vision monitor...
thetechnoobguy, (if you're serious in your posts, ie not trolling) you might want to cool it a little, seeing how you're new here. I can see that you've very opinionated, yet all you have going for you is your personal experience and "logic."

Different people have different grips on the mouse, depending on that they prefer certain size and weight of the mouse. It also depends on what is the typical usage of the mouse, whether we are talking RTS or FPS gaming (as between those two preferences are pretty different). On top of that depending on how you prefer to hold and use your mouse will dictate what soft of DPI you prefer, and based on your DPI setting and your grip you will tend to prefer a larger or smaller mousing surface.

As bystander pointed out you're trying to connect two different things via completely wrong assumptions, which is why your "logic" doesn't make sense.

Read a few articles, do some research, and you'll be less agonized by somebody having a different view than yours.

PS> how you hold your mouse has nothing to do with how skilled you are at video games. :lol:
 
I'm not new here, I have been here for over two years, on another account that I no longer use.

Sorry if I came off as an douche, however you're not doing a very good job to show that you aren't either. Calling me a troll and being a hypocrite aren't going to make your arguments any more credible. Although it's funny you would say I'm very opinionated while being very opinionated yourself. I will stand by that some things I said are not subjective. Such as if your palm is resting against your desk, you're going to have little to no control over the mouse and you're going to have a hard time doing well in any game, which is not an opinion, it's a fact. I actually thought that when bystander told me that some people use their mouse that way that he was trolling me.

I find it fascinating that you would take bystanders side when we were arguing in the same manner, double standard much?
PS> how you hold your mouse has nothing to do with how skilled you are at video games.

So if I'm holding it the opposite way with the cord facing me it's not going to affect my or anyones performance at all?

Look, I'm good at video games, specifically FPS games. I've known many professional gamers and I could play professionally myself if I really wanted, although school is more important to me right now. You will find that professional gamers all play and hold their mouse very similarly. I've never met a professional gamer that uses any higher than 1600 dpi for example. Say what you will but at the end of the day I came into this thread to give advice based on how a professional gamer would play, not a casual one. I'm not here to fight, so if you're going to continue to provoke a flame war then I'm going to do the mature thing and leave.
 
You seem to be very confused. Earlier you said that I couldn't turn around 180 degrees because I used 1800 DPI, yet you are now telling me that no one good uses higher than 1600 DPI. The lower the number, the farther you have to move the mouse to get the same rotation. There are top gamers on this site that use a range of DPI settings, all the way up to 3000 DPI.

Also a number of games spin you at different speeds. Not all games use your mouse drivers the same way. I've written 180 degree spin programs/macros before and in some games, they read your mouse drivers for how far you move the mouse, and spin accordingly based on where the mouse moved to. Others will poll every couple milliseconds, and based on how fast the mouse was moving, will spin it a bit at a time, which won't allow for instant 180 turns (Skyrim, Oblivion and Rift do this, for example). Some will turn further around than others, based on different distances of the mouse. I typically adjust the mouse sensitivity in game so I don't have to on the mouse, but I've done both.

Anyways, you are clearly incapable of imagine any other thoughts but your own, or recognize that depending hand size, not everyone will hold the mouse the same, or just have different preferences.

Note: while I have written scripts to turn 180 degrees in a few games, I don't personally use them. I did it for some forum users on the logitech forums. I have used some of my mouse movement scripts for navigating the menu system in Skyrim, however, which is quite a lot trickier than other games due to the unusual way they use the mouse. I think it is partially related to it being a console port. It also moves your view, and mouse pointer, much slower than the average game, until I adjusted it's mouse sensitivity in game.
 

Show me where I said that. I said that it's harder for you than it would be for me because you apparently use a heavier mouse.

I am talking about professional gamers that enter tournaments and are paid. Tell me one professional player that uses higher than 1600 dpi? Most of the people I know use 800 dpi.
Not all games use your mouse drivers the same way.
It's golden that you would call me a troll and then say things like this. I'm not even going to try and refute this anymore.
Anyways, you are clearly incapable of imagine any other thoughts but your own, or recognize that depending hand size, not everyone will hold the mouse the same, or just have different preferences.
I already said that I agree that people have different prefrences, but everything you listed as a prefrence is just incredibly illogically silly. Such as putting your palm on the desk and using your mouse, or "hand strength" affect's choosing a mouse. You have demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about whatsoever and instead of properly refuting my statements you hypocritically cower behind "narrow minded troll!".

Lastly, you argument about writing programs for mice has nothing to do with the program your mouse uses and the game sensitivity. All three are separate programs, and you suggesting that the game interferes with default or select dpi settings on your mouse is silly. The game it self may have different default sensitivity settings which doesn't mean that the game has interfered with your mouse's program or dpi settings whatsoever.
 
If a pro gamer is using 800 DPI, he has to have turned up the mouse drivers "pointer speed" option, otherwise you'd have to move your mouse about a foot to be able to turn a full 180 degrees in game. 800 DPI barely moves with the "pointer speed" set to the middle.

Given that I have written programs using the mouse, I don't need you to tell me how all games use them the same. I know better. If you had Skryim, you may have seen things that aren't possible by your limited experience. If you alt-tab and back into Skyrim, half the time, the system mouse pointer will show along with the in game mouse pointer. What may shock you is that they move at different speeds and end up at different locations of the screen as you move the mouse.

Anyways, I'll stop letting you troll me.
 

:heink: This tells me that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You're obviously not a competitive gamer, and you don't have any friends or know anyone who does professional gaming. I want to make this clear so that you don't mislead someone.

Given that I have written programs using the mouse, I don't need you to tell me how all games use them the same. I know better. If you had Skryim, you may have seen things that aren't possible by your limited experience. If you alt-tab and back into Skyrim, half the time, the system mouse pointer will show along with the in game mouse pointer. What may shock you is that they move at different speeds and end up at different locations of the screen as you move the mouse.
I'm saying that the games don't even use the mouse program! For the hundredth time they are seperate programs! The game does not affect the drivers of the mouse. YOU configure the software, not the game.

Anyways, I'll stop letting you troll me.
This statement is just getting sad now. You say this and then you reply to me with even more nonsense. It's already been made clear that you're the one trolling considering all the bullocks you've been coming out with. You have no idea what it's like to be a pro gamer, you don't know how the software for your mouse works, and you've done nothing but provide silly reasons why someone would buy a mouse that I have refuted.
 
i guess you havent played all the cod games as each of them have there own mouse handling routines that do not affect the microsoft mouse settings in windows.
also the fact that companies like razer use there own proprietary mouse drivers again completely separate from the microsoft mouse driver that ships with windows.
to be blunt a lot of what i have read is incorrect on your part.
old mice would need yards of mat to turn 180 degrees but new mice with there higher poll rates, higher dpi, reduced prediction and zero point acceleration all help make the mouse more user friendly... i know gamers who user 1600 dpi and they whip butt 24/7 i also know gamers who like 2400-3200dpi and more often they will get crushed because they dont belive that lowering the fps helps aiming... at 3200 dpi your mouse is to sensetive and will travel twice across the screen for 1 inch on the mat.
but at 1600 dpi you move 1 inch and you move 1600 pixels on the screen. with the standard microsoft mouse driver...
now load up cod 4 and turn the mouse sensitivity up to the middle and your 1s 1600 dpi mouse is acting like a 3200 dpi mouse...
they do this in game totally bypassing microsofts mouse driver speed settings.
turn it back down to 1/4 and your mouse will behave normally again and if you decide for fun to turn it down to 0 then you will be back to the days of 400dpi...
me i set my mouse as close to my screen rez as i can get it. and if i cant get it to match exactly i will use the ratio of the monitor to set the mouses x and y... normally 16/9 (1600/900) this means i have all the speed and accuracy i could need... i have the speed to spin 180 with less than 2 inches of mouse travel on my mat, but i also have the sensitivity to pull of a 500 yard sniper shot. today its not an either or situation you can have the best of both worlds. you can have speed and accuracy on your mice. as for the weight thing. its only an issue if you constantly have to pick up the mouse and plonk it down again... this is more often only relevant with 400-800 dpi mice. 1600dpi and above will need less than 8 inches of travel. so unless your really confined you shouldn't need to pick the mouse up...
as i said my mouse is heavy but i still claw grip it. with the heel of my palm on the mat the palm on the palm reast and my pinky and thumb and wrist doing most of the work... and guess what i play games just fine...
 
Let me guess, this guy is in school for political debate and/or philosophy. Arguing for the sake of arguing because he obviously knows better because he's got some pro gamer friends. This has become very amusing, sad bystander won't keep it up, I've had a few chuckles reading thus far. 😀
 
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