[SOLVED] What's the difference between PCIe ?

[PriyanAT]

What's the difference between PCIe ?
Intel® Core™ i3-9100F Processor:
PCI Express Revision : 3.0
PCI Express Configurations :Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4

Max # of PCI Express Lanes : 16

But in AMD Ryzen 3 2200G:
PCI Express® Version : PCIe® 3.0 x8

My doubt is In AMD says x8
Intel says x16

Means AMD abv. processor can't support any 16 lane supports?
Whether AMD abv. prcoessor supports NVMe & discrete graphics card?

Kindly give me a solution ASAP, bcz., I'm gonna build PC

 

[PriyanAT]

What's the difference between PCIe ?
Intel® Core™ i3-9100F Processor:
PCI Express Revision : 3.0
PCI Express Configurations :Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4

Max # of PCI Express Lanes : 16

But in AMD Ryzen 3 2200G:
PCI Express® Version : PCIe® 3.0 x8

My doubt is In AMD says x8
Intel says x16

Means AMD abv. processor can't support any 16 lane supports?
Whether AMD abv. prcoessor supports NVMe & discrete graphics card?

Kindly give me a solution ASAP, bcz., I'm gonna build PC

 

[geofelt]

Mostly, there is no issue with either.
The pcie capability will be more than adequate.

With a 9100F you will need a discrete graphics card.
Such a card will go in a pcie X16 slot on the motherboard.
It makes negligible difference in performance if the slot runs at X8 or X16 speeds.
Using a m.2 nvme ssd may make a couple of sata ports inoperable, but that is not likely an issue.

If you go with the 2200G you will have the option of using integrated graphics.
For that, you will want fast ram. (intel does not much care about ram speeds)
If you buy a separate discrete graphics card, you will have wasted the advantage of the 2200G and a different procesor might be in order.

 

[InvalidError]

It makes negligible difference in performance if the slot runs at X8 or X16 speeds.

Tell that to the 4GB RX5500 which implodes on 3.0x8 but holds up fairly well against its 8GB counterpart on 4.0x8. 3.0x16/4.0x8 is about to become mandatory to keep 4GB GPUs viable.

 

[geofelt]

The OP has not identified what he will do for graphics or what games he will play.

 

[PriyanAT]

Thank you

Mostly, there is no issue with either.
The pcie capability will be more than adequate.

With a 9100F you will need a discrete graphics card.
Such a card will go in a pcie X16 slot on the motherboard.
It makes negligible difference in performance if the slot runs at X8 or X16 speeds.
Using a m.2 nvme ssd may make a couple of sata ports inoperable, but that is not likely an issue.

If you go with the 2200G you will have the option of using integrated graphics.
For that, you will want fast ram. (intel does not much care about ram speeds)
If you buy a separate discrete graphics card, you will have wasted the advantage of the 2200G and a different procesor might be in order.

 

[PriyanAT]

Tell that to the 4GB RX5500 which implodes on 3.0x8 but holds up fairly well against its 8GB counterpart on 4.0x8. 3.0x16/4.0x8 is about to become mandatory to keep 4GB GPUs viable.

Thank you

 

[PriyanAT]

The OP has not identified what he will do for graphics or what games he will play.

I'm gonna use this PC for Trading (share market) with dual or quad monitor setup with s/w & more webpages

Another doubt, Now I've choosed Ryzen 3 3200g processor and ASrock B450 pro4 (ATx) https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/b450 pro4/index.asp
But it is "ryzen 2000 ready processor" shall I update the BIOS with flash drive to make use of my Ryzen 3 3200g processor?

Or its really complicate to update BIOS?

Or give me some cheap & best boards with the following specs...

• 3 output for monitor.
• 4 Ram slots
• 1 PCIe slot for graphic card
• 1 NVME slot
• 1 type C port
• 1 Type A port (optional)*

Kindly gimme a solution ASAP.

 

[geofelt]

May I suggest you look first to the big picture.
Most on these forums are gaming oriented where graphics performance is most important.

First of all, decide on what kind/s of display you need.
No motherboards are going to support 4 display outputs.
If you go that route, you will need a discrete graphics card.
And, you may need two if you are going to use 4 HDMI monitors.
I might suggest that a single 4k monitor will have sufficient display space for your purposes.
That can easily be done with integrated graphics that uses displayport output.
A 32" 4k monitor with dp capability can be less than $300.
For example:
https://www.newegg.com/westinghouse...monitor-_-24-569-001-_-Product&quicklink=true
There are other options such as wide units.

I recently built a pc for my son who had a 34" lg wide monitor. 2560 x 1080.
That displays two full 1080P screens side by side. It had speakers also.
I used a intel i3-10100 ($125)processor which is faster than the 3200g.
The intel B460 motherboard(<$100) has a displayport output that runs at 60hz.
It is quick.

Do not even think about not using a ssd, at least for windows.
How much storage do you need?

If you will have many apps open, then you need sufficient ram.
16gb is typical, but your needs could possibly be more.
Ram is not expensive these days. Intel does not need fast ram. ryzen does, and the ram selection is tricky because it depends not only on the motherboard, but also the processor installed..
I might point out that 2 ram slots is likely all you might want.
Ram operates in dual channel mode and only 2 slots are needed for that.
There is no performance advantage in using 4 slots.
And, a 4 stick ram kit is going to cost more because ram needs to be matched and matching 4 sticks is more difficult than two.

 

[PriyanAT]

May I suggest you look first to the big picture.
Most on these forums are gaming oriented where graphics performance is most important.

First of all, decide on what kind/s of display you need.
No motherboards are going to support 4 display outputs.
If you go that route, you will need a discrete graphics card.
And, you may need two if you are going to use 4 HDMI monitors.
I might suggest that a single 4k monitor will have sufficient display space for your purposes.
That can easily be done with integrated graphics that uses displayport output.
A 32" 4k monitor with dp capability can be less than $300.
For example:
https://www.newegg.com/westinghouse...monitor-_-24-569-001-_-Product&quicklink=true
There are other options such as wide units.

I recently built a pc for my son who had a 34" lg wide monitor. 2560 x 1080.
That displays two full 1080P screens side by side. It had speakers also.
I used a intel i3-10100 ($125)processor which is faster than the 3200g.
The intel B460 motherboard(<$100) has a displayport output that runs at 60hz.
It is quick.

Do not even think about not using a ssd, at least for windows.
How much storage do you need?

If you will have many apps open, then you need sufficient ram.
16gb is typical, but your needs could possibly be more.
Ram is not expensive these days. Intel does not need fast ram. ryzen does, and the ram selection is tricky because it depends not only on the motherboard, but also the processor installed..
I might point out that 2 ram slots is likely all you might want.
Ram operates in dual channel mode and only 2 slots are needed for that.
There is no performance advantage in using 4 slots.
And, a 4 stick ram kit is going to cost more because ram needs to be matched and matching 4 sticks is more difficult than two.

I choosed the parts to build PC in my own by researching. And I'm not that expert.
Shall I send my ergonomic usage in PC, will u suggest me the right and sufficient parts ?
kindly share your mail ID, I'll send the excel sheet.

 

[geofelt]

Post what you think you want to build here, on this forum.
That way many will see it and be able to offer suggestions.
Include your budget, what it covers and, perhaps a link as to where you may shop.

 

[PriyanAT]

Post what you think you want to build here, on this forum.
That way many will see it and be able to offer suggestions.
Include your budget, what it covers and, perhaps a link as to where you may shop.

Post what you think you want to build here, on this forum.
That way many will see it and be able to offer suggestions.
Include your budget, what it covers and, perhaps a link as to where you may shop.

K i'll do it as a seperate thread
thank u