That's a good thought, I have done that before, too. But no, sadly this problem began while my computer was in use and had been a recurring nightmare for a long time. If you're curious about the issue it is summarized in my latest thread before this one. The new motherboard was a last ditch attempt to at least get the thing working long enough to back some things onto an external drive before trashing the build and starting over. The previous time the computer was this dead it was a new motherboard that solved the issue, but not this time. 😓 Thanks for your response, I really needed to make sure it wasn't just some silly thing I was missing.