Which build should I go with? (Skylake or not)

[Lethality]

Current version: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/j6sDvK

Skylake version: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/VcRG4D

With skylake being available I was wondering if it would be good for a first time builder.

 

[Derza10]

I would go with a skylake i7 if i was to build right now, the difference in performance isn't huge but you get a lot more features on the motherboards and can use DDR4 ram.

 

[geofelt]

I would go Skylake, particularly for the Z170 chipset.
cpu performance over a I7-4790K is small, perhaps 10%
But either chip is as good as it gets for gaming today.

 

[ZippyPeanut]

The Skylake is the better build, and Derza is correct about motherboard features and DDR 4 RAM. That being said, I'd do the Devil's Canyon build. Skylake is so new: months from now you'll be pissed about the newer Skylake models that come out that are far better than the 6700 K. A few months from now, I'd answer differently. Once Intel starts releasing the truly powerful Skylake CPUs, then I'd definitely choose a Skylake build.


By the way, you should really consider a larger SSD, even if you use it only as a boot drive. They have a way of filling up, no matter what you try to do to keep data off of them.

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i7 3770K OC @ 4.2Ghz / ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 / evga FTW 670 2X-SLI / Creative SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card / 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 / 500GB Samsung EVO 850 (boot) / 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 / 2 TB WD Caviar Black / 2 TB Seagate Barracuda / Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System / LG 14X Blu-ray R/W / Corsair 1000w PSU / AzzA Genesis 9000 full tower / Windows 7 Professional 64 / 144hz 1ms 24-inch Asus monitor / Logitech Z906 Surround Sound

 

[Derza10]

The Skylake is the better build, and Derza is correct about motherboard features and DDR 4 RAM. That being said, I'd do the Devil's Canyon build. Skylake is so new: months from now you'll be pissed about the newer Skylake models that come out that are far better than the 6700 K. A few months from now, I'd answer differently. Once Intel starts releasing the truly powerful Skylake CPUs, then I'd definitely choose a Skylake build.


By the way, you should really consider a larger SSD, even if you use it only as a boot drive. They have a way of filling up, no matter what you try to do to keep data off of them.

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i7 3770K OC @ 4.2Ghz / ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 / evga FTW 670 2X-SLI / Creative SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card / 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 / 500GB Samsung EVO 850 (boot) / 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 / 2 TB WD Caviar Black / 2 TB Seagate Barracuda / Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System / LG 14X Blu-ray R/W / Corsair 1000w PSU / AzzA Genesis 9000 full tower / Windows 7 Professional 64 / 144hz 1ms 24-inch Asus monitor / Logitech Z906 Surround Sound

Why would you go devils canyon? Your reasoning does not make any sense to me. If he went with Skylake now he would have better upgrade options later on at the very least.

 

[babernet_1]

The Skylake is the better build, and Derza is correct about motherboard features and DDR 4 RAM. That being said, I'd do the Devil's Canyon build. Skylake is so new: months from now you'll be pissed about the newer Skylake models that come out that are far better than the 6700 K. A few months from now, I'd answer differently. Once Intel starts releasing the truly powerful Skylake CPUs, then I'd definitely choose a Skylake build.


By the way, you should really consider a larger SSD, even if you use it only as a boot drive. They have a way of filling up, no matter what you try to do to keep data off of them.

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i7 3770K OC @ 4.2Ghz / ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 / evga FTW 670 2X-SLI / Creative SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card / 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 / 500GB Samsung EVO 850 (boot) / 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 / 2 TB WD Caviar Black / 2 TB Seagate Barracuda / Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System / LG 14X Blu-ray R/W / Corsair 1000w PSU / AzzA Genesis 9000 full tower / Windows 7 Professional 64 / 144hz 1ms 24-inch Asus monitor / Logitech Z906 Surround Sound

There absolutely will not be faster versions of Skylake coming out in months. Why would you even write that?

 

[ZippyPeanut]

The Skylake is the better build, and Derza is correct about motherboard features and DDR 4 RAM. That being said, I'd do the Devil's Canyon build. Skylake is so new: months from now you'll be pissed about the newer Skylake models that come out that are far better than the 6700 K. A few months from now, I'd answer differently. Once Intel starts releasing the truly powerful Skylake CPUs, then I'd definitely choose a Skylake build.


By the way, you should really consider a larger SSD, even if you use it only as a boot drive. They have a way of filling up, no matter what you try to do to keep data off of them.

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i7 3770K OC @ 4.2Ghz / ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 / evga FTW 670 2X-SLI / Creative SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card / 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 / 500GB Samsung EVO 850 (boot) / 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 / 2 TB WD Caviar Black / 2 TB Seagate Barracuda / Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System / LG 14X Blu-ray R/W / Corsair 1000w PSU / AzzA Genesis 9000 full tower / Windows 7 Professional 64 / 144hz 1ms 24-inch Asus monitor / Logitech Z906 Surround Sound

There absolutely will not be faster versions of Skylake coming out in months. Why would you even write that?

Really? I mean, Really? Intel is finished with Skylake with two models. Really? I mean, really? Really, man? Two models? Intel develops a whole new tick (or tock)--whatever--and they release two models? I can see it now in the Intel board meetings: "Ok, ladies and gentlemen. We have just spent 428 gazillion dollars developing this new architecture. We first thought one model would return our investment; but now we think two models will be sufficient."

OK. I'm wrong. Intel is such a good-hearted corporation that they have decided to release all their top-of-the-line new products all at once.






Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/25095/intel-broadwell-and-skylake-release-dates-price-and-specs-next-gen-desktop/page/0/1#ixzz3i9h0z8Dt

 

[Derza10]

Yes they normally do release the high end Consumer CPUs first, then they will come out with the lower end locked CPUs, and the ones with iris pro iGPUs and what not. Also some low wattage CPUs. If they do release any higher end CPUs such as 6 core and 8 core CPUs they will cost a good amount more (~$500-$1000).

 

[ZippyPeanut]

Yes they normally do release the high end Consumer CPUs first, then they will come out with the lower end locked CPUs, and the ones with iris pro iGPUs and what not. Also some low wattage CPUs. If they do release any higher end CPUs such as 6 core and 8 core CPUs they will cost a good amount more (~$500-$1000).

Agreed. And I think it's safe to say that they know what they're going to release, and they know when they are going to release it. When sales begin to drop on the 6700K, then they will release the new high-end model.

 

[Derza10]

Yes they normally do release the high end Consumer CPUs first, then they will come out with the lower end locked CPUs, and the ones with iris pro iGPUs and what not. Also some low wattage CPUs. If they do release any higher end CPUs such as 6 core and 8 core CPUs they will cost a good amount more (~$500-$1000).

Agreed. And I think it's safe to say that they know what they're going to release, and they know when they are going to release it. When sales begin to drop on the 6700K, then they will release the new high-end model.

The 6 core / 8 core CPUs that they "might" release will most likely be the same if not slower per core performance (and a good chance at worse gaming performance), they will just have more cores, Their is no reason why he shouldn't get the i7 6700k over anything else in that price range that is out right now, or that will be out anytime soon.

 

[babernet_1]

The Skylake is the better build, and Derza is correct about motherboard features and DDR 4 RAM. That being said, I'd do the Devil's Canyon build. Skylake is so new: months from now you'll be pissed about the newer Skylake models that come out that are far better than the 6700 K. A few months from now, I'd answer differently. Once Intel starts releasing the truly powerful Skylake CPUs, then I'd definitely choose a Skylake build.


By the way, you should really consider a larger SSD, even if you use it only as a boot drive. They have a way of filling up, no matter what you try to do to keep data off of them.

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i7 3770K OC @ 4.2Ghz / ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 / evga FTW 670 2X-SLI / Creative SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card / 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 / 500GB Samsung EVO 850 (boot) / 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 / 2 TB WD Caviar Black / 2 TB Seagate Barracuda / Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System / LG 14X Blu-ray R/W / Corsair 1000w PSU / AzzA Genesis 9000 full tower / Windows 7 Professional 64 / 144hz 1ms 24-inch Asus monitor / Logitech Z906 Surround Sound

There absolutely will not be faster versions of Skylake coming out in months. Why would you even write that?

Really? I mean, Really? Intel is finished with Skylake with two models. Really? I mean, really? Really, man? Two models? Intel develops a whole new tick (or tock)--whatever--and they release two models? I can see it now in the Intel board meetings: "Ok, ladies and gentlemen. We have just spent 428 gazillion dollars developing this new architecture. We first thought one model would return our investment; but now we think two models will be sufficient."

OK. I'm wrong. Intel is such a good-hearted corporation that they have decided to release all their top-of-the-line new products all at once.






Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/25095/intel-broadwell-and-skylake-release-dates-price-and-specs-next-gen-desktop/page/0/1#ixzz3i9h0z8Dt

Let's not get too emotional. Your provided link clearly shows the 6700K has the fasted clock speed and is overclockable. Looking at all the previous product releases you will know that the 6700K is the fastest. Yes, in about 1.5 years they will be coming out with the 2011 type socket Skylake with six or more cores but that is at least a year or more away. Already Intel has revealed they are coming out with another tock, the Kaby Lake in 2016.

 

[ZippyPeanut]

The Skylake is the better build, and Derza is correct about motherboard features and DDR 4 RAM. That being said, I'd do the Devil's Canyon build. Skylake is so new: months from now you'll be pissed about the newer Skylake models that come out that are far better than the 6700 K. A few months from now, I'd answer differently. Once Intel starts releasing the truly powerful Skylake CPUs, then I'd definitely choose a Skylake build.


By the way, you should really consider a larger SSD, even if you use it only as a boot drive. They have a way of filling up, no matter what you try to do to keep data off of them.

-----------
i7 3770K OC @ 4.2Ghz / ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 / evga FTW 670 2X-SLI / Creative SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card / 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 / 500GB Samsung EVO 850 (boot) / 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 / 2 TB WD Caviar Black / 2 TB Seagate Barracuda / Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System / LG 14X Blu-ray R/W / Corsair 1000w PSU / AzzA Genesis 9000 full tower / Windows 7 Professional 64 / 144hz 1ms 24-inch Asus monitor / Logitech Z906 Surround Sound

There absolutely will not be faster versions of Skylake coming out in months. Why would you even write that?

Really? I mean, Really? Intel is finished with Skylake with two models. Really? I mean, really? Really, man? Two models? Intel develops a whole new tick (or tock)--whatever--and they release two models? I can see it now in the Intel board meetings: "Ok, ladies and gentlemen. We have just spent 428 gazillion dollars developing this new architecture. We first thought one model would return our investment; but now we think two models will be sufficient."

OK. I'm wrong. Intel is such a good-hearted corporation that they have decided to release all their top-of-the-line new products all at once.






Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/25095/intel-broadwell-and-skylake-release-dates-price-and-specs-next-gen-desktop/page/0/1#ixzz3i9h0z8Dt

Let's not get too emotional. Your provided link clearly shows the 6700K has the fasted clock speed and is overclockable. Looking at all the previous product releases you will know that the 6700K is the fastest. Yes, in about 1.5 years they will be coming out with the 2011 type socket Skylake with six or more cores but that is at least a year or more away. Already Intel has revealed they are coming out with another tock, the Kaby Lake in 2016.

But getting emotional is so fun!

Seriously, I learn a lot in these forums. Good stuff here.

 

[Honey_Badger]

Hello,

The other day I saw this video on SkyLake vs the rest, I think it is a solution to your question!

Check it out, then make your own made up Good luck!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOh19-No2Nw

 

[Lethality]

Just want to add that one of the reasons I'm contemplating skylake is that I don't want to have to change my mobo and ram just to upgrade my cpu, when lga 1151 and ddr4 memory become some what mainstream.

In terms of longevity I feel skylake would be the better option.