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This is my first build, so I don't have any extra 120mm or 140mm fans.
I'll probably be getting the Swiftech H240-X.
For extra case fans, I'll get one 120mm for the HD cage, one 140mm on top along side the Swiftech, and one 140mm on bottom.
What type of Phanteks fans should I get? On PCPartPicker, there are so many different kinds, with different letters like OR, BK, BL, SP. Which are the best and compatible with my case?
Also, I will get anti-vibration fan silencers right off the bat, to ensure that if my fans do make annoying noises, I'll be alright. They're super cheap anyways.
Do the fans that come with the case have fan silencers on them?
Would any fan silencer work, or is there like a specific company I should get or something?
Thanks!
I'll probably be getting the Swiftech H240-X.
For extra case fans, I'll get one 120mm for the HD cage, one 140mm on top along side the Swiftech, and one 140mm on bottom.
What type of Phanteks fans should I get? On PCPartPicker, there are so many different kinds, with different letters like OR, BK, BL, SP. Which are the best and compatible with my case?
Also, I will get anti-vibration fan silencers right off the bat, to ensure that if my fans do make annoying noises, I'll be alright. They're super cheap anyways.
Do the fans that come with the case have fan silencers on them?
Would any fan silencer work, or is there like a specific company I should get or something?
Thanks!
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You want the case fans, not cooler fans which mostly are 140mm fans w/ 120mm or other odd mounting arrangements.
PH-F120SP
PH-F140SP
PH-F2000SP
There's also the XP versions if you want PWM and the MP versions (120) if you want to move air thru high fpi rads or create some air turbulence.
So far, I have written to phanteksusa each time we rec'd a new case and they sent the necessary corner pads. I dunno why they haven't addressed this but someone should recognize that it's real hard to mount a 420 radiator when one fan is 25mm thick and the other 2 are 27mm thick.
However, if you are buying (2) extra fans..... just peel the corner pads off the side of the new fans that are not touching the case and put them on the needed side of the case fans.
Yes, PCpartpicker site can be pretty useless..... it almost never lists the Swiftech stuff, has wrong price a lot of the time and pictures require extra clicks
The letters after the model number are simply colors (for cooler fans) or LED colors for case fans
Phanteks PH-F140SP_BK_RLED 140mm Red LED = Case Fan w/ Black Frame and Red LED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007998&IsNodeId=1&Description=phanteks&name=Case%20Fans&Order=BESTMATCH&isdeptsrh=1
PH-F120SP
PH-F140SP
PH-F2000SP
There's also the XP versions if you want PWM and the MP versions (120) if you want to move air thru high fpi rads or create some air turbulence.
So far, I have written to phanteksusa each time we rec'd a new case and they sent the necessary corner pads. I dunno why they haven't addressed this but someone should recognize that it's real hard to mount a 420 radiator when one fan is 25mm thick and the other 2 are 27mm thick.
However, if you are buying (2) extra fans..... just peel the corner pads off the side of the new fans that are not touching the case and put them on the needed side of the case fans.
Yes, PCpartpicker site can be pretty useless..... it almost never lists the Swiftech stuff, has wrong price a lot of the time and pictures require extra clicks
The letters after the model number are simply colors (for cooler fans) or LED colors for case fans
Phanteks PH-F140SP_BK_RLED 140mm Red LED = Case Fan w/ Black Frame and Red LED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007998&IsNodeId=1&Description=phanteks&name=Case%20Fans&Order=BESTMATCH&isdeptsrh=1
Should I get a fan controller?
Are the three fans that come with the case already XP versions and have PWM?
Also, what are the MP versions and high fpi rads?
What'd you mean when you said it was hard to mount a 420 radiator when one fan is 25mm thick and the other two are 27mm thick?
Are the three fans that come with the case already XP versions and have PWM?
Also, what are the MP versions and high fpi rads?
What'd you mean when you said it was hard to mount a 420 radiator when one fan is 25mm thick and the other two are 27mm thick?
No need for a fan controller u will have to fan hubs one with the case other with h240x.
Fpi is how close the fins are on the radiator the closer they are the more static pressure u need.
Yes 3 fans come with the case 2 140sp 1 200mmsp .
If the shop u are buying it from is local just get your parts build it and see what your temps are then decide on fans as needed if it was me I'd just get 2 sp fans run them off the supplied hub with the case run the h240x off the swiftech hub.
Also if I was going sli I'd go reference coolers so u get the cool air u supply them in and exh out the case rather than circulating within .just my op
Fpi is how close the fins are on the radiator the closer they are the more static pressure u need.
Yes 3 fans come with the case 2 140sp 1 200mmsp .
If the shop u are buying it from is local just get your parts build it and see what your temps are then decide on fans as needed if it was me I'd just get 2 sp fans run them off the supplied hub with the case run the h240x off the swiftech hub.
Also if I was going sli I'd go reference coolers so u get the cool air u supply them in and exh out the case rather than circulating within .just my op
Yes the phantek strips work with the case lighting so they are the same colours .the case comes with a spare lead for you to plug it in and will work off the lighting switch on the frt panel .
Edit this one hey ?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28293&cPath=1356
Edit this one hey ?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28293&cPath=1356
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Well it doesn't take an official or unofficial review to tell me what I'm holding in my hand is what exists. It is what it is, nothing more nothing less. 2 for 2 were crap in horizontal mount so I guess it's good for them I wasn't an official review site isn't it. Anyone and everyone is welcome to roll the dice on anything, the op asked and I merely shared my own real world experience. 100 great reviews doesn't make the product I personally received any better. I already spoke of others who've experienced the exact same I noted, it doesn't have to be a reviewer to exist. The moon doesn't need a scientist's official seal of approval to see what's right in front of someone's face either. Hopefully the op will get perfectly fine fans. Not sure why it's so hard to believe that they have the potential to run poorly in a particular orientation, other fans have similar issues as I stated before. It really doesn't have to do with whether the bearing is of one design or another, just that it failed in the orientation I tried to place it in. I never said the phanteks would wear sooner, which is the common association with sleeve bearings in a horizontal orientation - premature wear.
Argue how wonderful the fans you received were all day long doesn't change the conditions the phanteks fans I received exhibited. It's a fact that some aren't up to par and take for what it's worth. In at least one user's experience, 2 for 2 with the same issue.
My only comment about their lack of displaying information proactively was it tends to be a matter of hiding something. Noctua and others go out of their way to be transparent, phanteks chose not to. It's not about how difficult the information is to obtain. If you have a new product different enough to label it something apart from everyone else (as in not just ball bearing, dual ball, sleeve), to actually give it an acronym as noctua has their sso and sso2 - why wouldn't you explain why and how it's different? If nothing else clue in those who you submitted product to for review knowing full well it was being reviewed and advertised to others.
Same reason some products are sold and advertised as 'all metal construction' and others sold as 'rust proof'. Why, because calling it what it is, "plastic" doesn't sound so fancy and they're not quick to tell it like it is. Mattresses, same thing. Check a sealy or serta sometime and the construction diagram of vague wording like 'durable long lasting material' or 'airflow foam' - aka cheap eggcrate crap and no densities listed. Go look at a quality made product and they list the specs for all their materials and don't use cheap fillers as a means of corner cutting. Companies know the market, know the questions people ask and what things are important to them and it's no accident when things are kept on a need to know basis rather than proudly displayed. That's all.
It shouldn't have to be argued when someone shares their personal experience as if what actually took place somehow did not or is in any way invalid. The op can take it for what it is, just a shared experience and didn't cost them anything so they're not out anything. I wish them the best and my only intention is to help. If it weren't I wouldn't take the time out of my day to post. Maybe phanteks have incredible fans suitable for all positions but if that's the case then quality control needs to step it up so someone who receives one of their cases doesn't receive defective products. For me personally it wasn't worth the headache of rma'ing since they did work in the orientation I'm using them in and noctua had better quality fans for roughly the same price since I was looking to add additional fans anyway.
The rubber grommets on the corners of the retail versions are a nice touch but any anti-vibe pads should be nothing more than a precaution. If a fan vibrates that horribly, first off it's defective. Second, if it has as much vibration as mine had the pads wouldn't have helped. In contrast the noctua's had no pads either (redux) and are hard mounted with screws and no vibration is transferred to the case. There's no vibration at all to begin with.
Argue how wonderful the fans you received were all day long doesn't change the conditions the phanteks fans I received exhibited. It's a fact that some aren't up to par and take for what it's worth. In at least one user's experience, 2 for 2 with the same issue.
My only comment about their lack of displaying information proactively was it tends to be a matter of hiding something. Noctua and others go out of their way to be transparent, phanteks chose not to. It's not about how difficult the information is to obtain. If you have a new product different enough to label it something apart from everyone else (as in not just ball bearing, dual ball, sleeve), to actually give it an acronym as noctua has their sso and sso2 - why wouldn't you explain why and how it's different? If nothing else clue in those who you submitted product to for review knowing full well it was being reviewed and advertised to others.
Same reason some products are sold and advertised as 'all metal construction' and others sold as 'rust proof'. Why, because calling it what it is, "plastic" doesn't sound so fancy and they're not quick to tell it like it is. Mattresses, same thing. Check a sealy or serta sometime and the construction diagram of vague wording like 'durable long lasting material' or 'airflow foam' - aka cheap eggcrate crap and no densities listed. Go look at a quality made product and they list the specs for all their materials and don't use cheap fillers as a means of corner cutting. Companies know the market, know the questions people ask and what things are important to them and it's no accident when things are kept on a need to know basis rather than proudly displayed. That's all.
It shouldn't have to be argued when someone shares their personal experience as if what actually took place somehow did not or is in any way invalid. The op can take it for what it is, just a shared experience and didn't cost them anything so they're not out anything. I wish them the best and my only intention is to help. If it weren't I wouldn't take the time out of my day to post. Maybe phanteks have incredible fans suitable for all positions but if that's the case then quality control needs to step it up so someone who receives one of their cases doesn't receive defective products. For me personally it wasn't worth the headache of rma'ing since they did work in the orientation I'm using them in and noctua had better quality fans for roughly the same price since I was looking to add additional fans anyway.
The rubber grommets on the corners of the retail versions are a nice touch but any anti-vibe pads should be nothing more than a precaution. If a fan vibrates that horribly, first off it's defective. Second, if it has as much vibration as mine had the pads wouldn't have helped. In contrast the noctua's had no pads either (redux) and are hard mounted with screws and no vibration is transferred to the case. There's no vibration at all to begin with.
Thanks for the reply. I'll just have to see what happens, but I'll get some anti-vibration screws and fan silencers to help as much as possible for the horizontally oriented fans. If I do have a problem, I'll just contact Phanteks and get a new one!
This is my final build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3wtxQ7
This is my final build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3wtxQ7
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