Which CPU Cooler?

[tydalwave]

skaz mentioned the Prolimatech Megahalems, I have this cooler on a Q9650 @ 4.3 1.4125 volts and was wanting to know if/when I moved to the i7-3770K if this would be along the lines of the Noctua and Silver Arrow or near it? It was a top performer in the days of the Q2Q's, hard to find reviews with the Megahalems now. Thanks!

 

[4Ryan6]

3770k at 4.5 GHz gets pretty damn hot. I'd recommend looking at top of the line air coolers like the Silver Arrow or NH-D14 if you can afford them. I'm not sure the Hyper 212 EVO will be able to keep up with the heat of a 3770k at 4.5 GHz at full load.

The TPC 812 is the best of that bunch, but for 4.5 on 3770K, I suggest, as willard did, a Silver Arrow or a NH-D14. Custom water (NOT closed loop) would be better, but I understand not wanting to go that far.

They're both HUGE.

NH-D14:

http://cdn.overclock.net/b/b2/b2ca9e81_finishedlook.jpeg

Silver Arrow:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/cooling/silver-arrow/thermalright_silver_arrow_mb2.jpg

To the OP, I totally agree with these suggestions with your stated overclock intentions, when overclocking you need to run as cool as you possibly can, not just barely getting there, but way on the comfortable side for 24/7 use, the CPU you'll be overclocking is a hot one when overclocked and for longevity, you need to keep it as cool as you can.

So you guys are saying that a tpc 812 is not good enough to OC 3770k to 4.5ghz?

I will make all these coolers into a push-pull config. by adding another fan.

Adding a 2nd fan only improves performance by 1c, simply because of the cooler design, if a 2nd fan made a performance difference don't you think Cooler Master would have provided one.

Cooler Master knows exactly what their coolers are capable of and supply the fans for the maximum cooling of the heat sink.

I've added a 2nd fan myself and the 1c performance gain was very disappointing!

There are coolers that seriously gain cooling performance with a 2nd fan like the older TRUE, but it was designed that way.

 

[skaz]

skaz mentioned the Prolimatech Megahalems, I have this cooler on a Q9650 @ 4.3 1.4125 volts and was wanting to know if/when I moved to the i7-3770K if this would be along the lines of the Noctua and Silver Arrow or near it? It was a top performer in the days of the Q2Q's, hard to find reviews with the Megahalems now. Thanks!

Probably won't beat either of them, but will definitely compete well. Will largely depend on the fan(s) you use. Same goes for the VenX.

 

[redtailed]

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2654&page=5

TPC 812 is showing better temps. than the silver arrow, but is louder...
Im replacing the fan with CM siklefow's (20dba), so temps may go up but it will get much quieter...

Don't believe everything you read 😀

What I was saying about the sickleflow is they don't have as high of a static pressure as the fans that comes with the 812 so will not work as well.

 

[ratsa]

I read somewhere that when overclocking with air you need to run the fans at full speed because in the split second that it takes for the fans to speed up, the CPU will start to overheat and throttle back.

Is that true? Is that averted by something like H80?

 

[amuffin]

No.

 

[kikiking]

what would someone stick as fans on the tpc 812?

what does someone think of gelid silent 12 PWm x2, or other set ups?

 

[redtailed]

what would someone stick as fans on the tpc 812?

what does someone think of gelid silent 12 PWm x2, or other set ups?

Why not get something that is better and quieter at cooling in the first place and costs less than an 812 with new fans - the silver arrow.

 

[skaz]

If your looking for a good pwm 120mm fan the enermax t.b. silence pwm version is a solid choice.

 

[kikiking]

Why not get something that is better and quieter at cooling in the first place and costs less than an 812 with new fans - the silver arrow.

Please show me this store where the silver arrow is cheaper than the 812 tpc.. silver arrow is 86-95 dollars on some sites. 812 is like 66 dollars some times 20% off from coolmaster it's self.

Show me a site with a cheap silver arrow...

 

[redtailed]

$66 + 2 new good fans is at least $86 dollars (though I haven't seen the 812 for less than $69). And I did say that the Silver Arrow was cheaper than an 812 with two new fans.

Here is the silver arrow from Amazon for $84:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Silver-Arrow-Universal-Cooler/dp/B007BO0VEI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339035655&sr=8-2

I am sure you can wait and find discounts on the Silver Arrow as well.

And it is a better cooler and already has terrific fans.

Good enough for you?

 

[kikiking]

Ok you win, i'll be set on getting a silver arrow.... =/. I do not like the CM hyper evo 212 I have 🙁.

 

[kikiking]

Well tbh in the future... i hope they improve the tech for the vapor chambers and still make this thing direct contact, and as effective as the next line of air coolers. I see no need for closed loops... either water cooling or air... air seems easier... just these sinks are getting big.

I saw new heat sinks designs and they were ridiculous.

 

[redtailed]

Ok you win, i'll be set on getting a silver arrow.... =/. I do not like the CM hyper evo 212 I have 🙁.

I replaced my 212+ with the 812. I had planned on getting a silver arrow but it is huge and would just barely fit into my case. I was hoping the vapor chambers would make up for its relatively diminutive size. But I really can't get it to perform much better, if any, than my 212+, which was $50 less. If I had to do it over again I would cram the silver arrow in.

Just for reference, with a 2500k overclocked to 4.5 GHz with a core voltage at load of 1.272V, I am getting 74-75c on IBT with the TPC 812. The calculated wattage (Real Temp) is around 136 to 138. So I don't know where the initial claims of 250-300W came from.

 

[RawNG]

the Hyper 612 PWM is a beast dont listen to what anyone else is saying this thing performs like a champ!!! and it fits in my Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
plus got it on sale on newegg for 40 bucks

 

[cbrunnem]

I replaced my 212+ with the 812. I had planned on getting a silver arrow but it is huge and would just barely fit into my case. I was hoping the vapor chambers would make up for its relatively diminutive size. But I really can't get it to perform much better, if any, than my 212+, which was $50 less. If I had to do it over again I would cram the silver arrow in.

Just for reference, with a 2500k overclocked to 4.5 GHz with a core voltage at load of 1.272V, I am getting 74-75c on IBT with the TPC 812. The calculated wattage (Real Temp) is around 136 to 138. So I don't know where the initial claims of 250-300W came from.

That is really hot considering it's a i5. I I never saw above 68 when I was using a noctua and was @4.6. I now at the same clock I never see above 58 with a water cooking loop.

 

[redtailed]

Well to be more precise

4,5 GHz
1.268V
Ambient 24c
IBT 2.54 very high
Highest core temp 73c

This is after some mucking around with case airflow and fans to get optimum flow through the box

 

[Guest]

Hi everyone
I have a Phenom X6 1050 (AM3 socket) with the stock AMD cooler. I run the cpu fairly hard which means the cooler often is going around 70% of max rpm and the noise is getting to me.
What I'm looking for is a quiet PWM (4 pin) controlled cooler, which I need to be horizontal, in other words, the fan itself is flat down, not at right angles to the motherboard. This is because I have an air intake on the side of the case that I want to keep using. The bigger the fan the better, so the RPM can be kept low by the onboard fan control software. I've been looking at hundreds of different models but havent found anything that meets my needs, horizontal, 4 pin PWM for 130W or so processor socket. Anyone know of a cooler that does these specs? Thanks for any good replies!

 

[thomashan168]

what is silver arrow? can't find it

Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E and Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme. Both are dual fans.
http://www.nansgaminggear.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SILVER%2DARROW%2DSB%2DE%2DExtreme

 

[thomashan168]

what is silver arrow? can't find it

http://www.nansgaminggear.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SILVER%2DARROW%2DSB%2DE%2DExtreme

 

[4Ryan6]

3770k at 4.5 GHz gets pretty damn hot. I'd recommend looking at top of the line air coolers like the Silver Arrow or NH-D14 if you can afford them. I'm not sure the Hyper 212 EVO will be able to keep up with the heat of a 3770k at 4.5 GHz at full load.

The TPC 812 is the best of that bunch, but for 4.5 on 3770K, I suggest, as willard did, a Silver Arrow or a NH-D14. Custom water (NOT closed loop) would be better, but I understand not wanting to go that far.

^ I agree with the above

So you guys are saying that a tpc 812 is not good enough to OC 3770k to 4.5ghz?

I will make all these coolers into a push-pull config. by adding another fan.

Adding a second fan to a cooler that was really not marketed with a second fan is useless even though it may come with additional clips to mount a 2nd fan if one made that much difference don't you think CM would have supplied one.

From my own experience the NH-D14 (Noctua), can actually be used as a passive cooler, any cooler that can cool on it's own with just case airflow, performs remarkably when the fans are added.

I'm not sure why your poll only covers Cooler Master when your goal is to overclock your 3770K to 4.5ghz?

It would seem to me you would want the absolutely best air cooling solution you could get your hands on, I personally recommend the Noctua NH-D14!

Ryan

Edit: :lol: Did not realize I had previously posted in this thread back in 6/1/12 and said almost the exact thing! :lol:

 

[Rob Haddad]

what would someone stick as fans on the tpc 812?

I know this thread is a bit old, but here's the result of a 120mm fan roundup I did some time ago, from best to worst:

1. AeroCool Shark Model A1225L12 (12V 0.30A) (Low Noise) (LED)
2. Cooler Master SickeFlow 120 Model A12025-20RB-3BN-F1 (12V 0.37A) [R4-L2R-20AC-GP] (Low Noise) (LED)
3. Thermaltake Thunderblade LED Model TTC122512LS (12V 0.30A) (Low Noise) (LED)
4. Enermax TBVegas Trio Model UCTVT12P ED122512M-PAL (12V 0.70A) (Moderate Noise) (LED)
5. Scythe (Nidec) Gentle Typhoon Model D1225C12B5AP-15 (12V 0.083A) (Low Noise) (No LED)
6. Enermax TBApollish Model UCTA12N ED122512W-OAL (12V 0.20A) (Low Noise) (LED)
7. Thermaltake Pure Silence ISGC Fan 8 Model TTB802512LO (12V 0.12A) (Low Noise) (No LED)
8. Scythe Kaze-Jyuni Model SY1225SL12SH (12V 0.53A) (High Noise) (No LED)
9. Cooler Master AA225-25BB-5EA-F1 (12V 0.40A) [DCD-21T1-GP] (Low Noise) (LED)

A couple AeroCool Sharks do a great job of cooling the heatsink. I've been using them on a Cooler Master V6 for about a year now. I'll be replacing the V6 with a CM TPC 812 and will definitely keep these fans. I gotta add that I tested all models simultaneously on the same PSU and since I had 2 fans for each model, I was able to double check for more consistent results. Models 6 thru 9 just aren't suitable for HSF-OC applications IMO.