Question Which CPU should I buy for upgrading on a budget ?

[Phil_33]

Hi, so I'm currently looking at 5600x, 7600x, 12600k and the 13600k. I'm someone who is only upgrading if it has to (like when its starting to fail), every 8-10 years and I'm also on a budget. You do have upgrade combo's but the thing is if I wanna have ddr5 then I think I might need to go more expensive. I'm looking to upgrade to an rx 6700xt when the time arrives. Anyway,...

My system now is:
Specs
i7 6700 non k (2015)
Z170 gaming a msi (2015)
16gb ram ddr4 2100 speed (2015)
Arctic cooler 34r
1tb, ssd (for games) (2022), spare 1,5tb hdd (2012 but not in use anymore), 240gb ssd (for windows) (2015)
XFX rx590 8gb VRAM (downvolted) (2018)
Corsair rmx 750w 2021 (2022)
Fractal design meshify 2 (2022)
Display: LG 24GM79G 24inch 1080p 144hz (2019)

Games
Currently: Horizon Zero Dawn, Forza Horizon 5, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Warframe, Destiny 2,...
Future (looking to play this in max settings at 70-144fps/hz): aaa games like Horizon Forbidden West, GTA 6,...

I really wanna stretch as much time as possible on cpu's so that I only have to upgrade my card once. Which one should I take? Mind you, I have only used intel. I've never used ryzen. I do have an arctic r34 cooler but need to upgrade to lga1700 or am5 if needed. Only costs 13 euro's. I live in Belgium btw.

 

[Lafong]

............"on a budget"..................

How many Euros?

The DDR4/DDR5 price differential isn't much anymore. Maybe not in Belgium?

You might be able to use your existing 16 GB DDR 4. If you want 32 GB, you may as well go with DDR 5.

Maybe just 3 pieces needed: board, CPU, RAM? Upgrade video card later when you can afford it.

I guess you mean you can get an adapter for your existing cooler for 13 euros?

 

[Eximo]

2133 isn't worth moving to a new system, better to keep the old parts together. DDR4 is really cheap too if you wanted to get 2x8GB of DDR4 3200, that would cost about 40 Euro. DDR5 is now just reasonably priced vs the horrendously inflated prices at launch.

Chassis and PSU are certainly worth keeping, and you can always re-use storage devices.

Added a new boot drive, you can consider retiring that old 256GB.

AMD choice is a little more expensive, but chances are you will be able to drop new CPUs into this board for several generations. Certainly 8000 series and probably 9000 as well.

You could go Intel 12th gen and then upgrade to 14th gen when it launches later this year, but that would be the end of the socket. AMD tends to keep sockets for several generations.

AM4 basically was 4.5 generations of hardware if you had the right board. X370 and most B350 boards allows installation of Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000, (4000), and 5000 series parts.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€249.95 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€184.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€98.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€54.99 @ Amazon Belgium)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For €0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For €0.00)
Total: €627.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 19:42 CEST+0200

 

[Phil_33]

............"on a budget"..................

How many Euros?

The DDR4/DDR5 price differential isn't much anymore. Maybe not in Belgium?

You might be able to use your existing 16 GB DDR 4. If you want 32 GB, you may as well go with DDR 5.

Maybe just 3 pieces needed: board, CPU, RAM? Upgrade video card later when you can afford it.

I guess you mean you can get an adapter for your existing cooler for 13 euros?

2133 isn't worth moving to a new system, better to keep the old parts together. DDR4 is really cheap too if you wanted to get 2x8GB of DDR4 3200, that would cost about 40 Euro. DDR5 is now just reasonably priced vs the horrendously inflated prices at launch.

Chassis and PSU are certainly worth keeping, and you can always re-use storage devices.

Added a new boot drive, you can consider retiring that old 256GB.

AMD choice is a little more expensive, but chances are you will be able to drop new CPUs into this board for several generations. Certainly 8000 series and probably 9000 as well.

You could go Intel 12th gen and then upgrade to 14th gen when it launches later this year, but that would be the end of the socket. AMD tends to keep sockets for several generations.

AM4 basically was 4.5 generations of hardware if you had the right board. X370 and most B350 boards allows installation of Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000, (4000), and 5000 series parts.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€249.95 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€184.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€98.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€54.99 @ Amazon Belgium)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For €0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For €0.00)
Total: €627.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 19:42 CEST+0200

The problem is that recently my pc started to freeze when I played league of legends which isn't a game that is highly gpu demanding. That game is more cpu demanding or even ram or something. So I kinda suspect that my cpu or my ram begins to slow down.
That's why I think my ram isn't reusable anymore. And if it is, it might die within the year and then I don't have the option anymore to go DDR5 which will last for years... Everything needs to last as long as possible for me. Except the graphics card ofcourse. The storage isn't a problem anymore as I have an external drive of 500gb with only my files like photo's and video's onto it. And the HDD is there for extra. 1 of the SSD's is for games, the other one is for my windows. All 3 of them are sata so I think I'm set for that. M.2's are easy to install, so I can install afterwards.

Also, I'm not going to upgrade my gpu directly as I will probably need to choose. Either gpu or cpu-mobo-ram. Together, that price is a bit too high. I wanna have the option to be able to go to a 1440p 144hz monitor as time passes by. But that won't be for the next 2 years as I have other costs and as my pc will need to undergo upgrades first.

I don't have knowledge enough for installing hardware myself. And the cablemanagement needs to be done right. The case and psu recently got upgraded, because, yes, my previous case and psu were from 2013. And my whole system was in bad airflow for 6 years. 1front fan 1 back fan and 2 topfans is not ideal. Now I have 2 front fans and 1 backfan so this is much better. + my cpu cooler got installed too recently. All was done by someone else.

 

[Eximo]

PCs are not that hard to assemble or cable manage these days. Plenty of instructional videos to watch or just reading the motherboard manual is what I did when I was a literal child. And things weren't exactly as plug and play as they are now.

You can also probably reach out on local listings/PC shops for someone willing to assemble the system from components you supply. I have seen people who are partially disabled go that route many times.

Building such a radically new system is going to mean installing Windows from scratch. Might as well be on a new drive. SSDs have never been cheaper and we don't know how long that will last. Flash was overproduced to meet pandemic demand, the market will likely self correct in the next year or so.

7600X based system is quite reasonably priced for its performance and future upgradability.

 

[Phil_33]

PCs are not that hard to assemble or cable manage these days. Plenty of instructional videos to watch or just reading the motherboard manual is what I did when I was a literal child. And things weren't exactly as plug and play as they are now.

You can also probably reach out on local listings/PC shops for someone willing to assemble the system from components you supply. I have seen people who are partially disabled go that route many times.

Building such a radically new system is going to mean installing Windows from scratch. Might as well be on a new drive. SSDs have never been cheaper and we don't know how long that will last. Flash was overproduced to meet pandemic demand, the market will likely self correct in the next year or so.

7600X based system is quite reasonably priced for its performance and future upgradability.

What about intel? I'm expanding my options a bit. 12600k, 13600k or 13500?
Also what did you mean by boot drive? Are there hard drives specially used for booting?
Also I still have a win10 key from 2015. It's old but it still works so.

 

[Lafong]

What about intel? I'm expanding my options a bit. 12600k, 13600k or 13500?
Also what did you mean by boot drive? Are there hard drives specially used for booting?
Also I still have a win10 key from 2015. It's old but it still works so.

Boot drive is the drive on which Windows is installed. Typically the fastest drive you have. Any drive will work; don't need a "special" drive for booting.

13600K is generally a good choice. 12600k and 13500 are slightly slower and roughly equivalent to each other. 13600K a bit more expensive.

 

[Eximo]

I really wanna stretch as much time as possible on cpu's so that I only have to upgrade my card once.

You can do Intel, but we are already at end of life for LGA1700. 12th gen, 13th gen, and now 14th gen (which is just a refresh of 13th gen with slightly higher clocks, and a few extra E cores on the 14700)

AM5 should have at least 2 more generations of hardware coming. 8000 series, 8000X3D series, 9000 series and potentially 9000X3D series if that stays distinct. Or possibly more.

AM4 lasted 4.5 generations. 1000 series, 2000 series, 3000 series, 5000 series, and the in between 4000 series aimed at OEMs. Plus the first X3D chips they offered in the form of the 5800X3D and extremely recently the 5600X3D.

Pick up a 12400 today, upgrade to an i7-14700K later on. Or pick up a 13700 today and not upgrade at all. Just depends on what you want the upfront cost to be.

Pick up a Ryzen 7600X today, and upgrade all the way to 16 or more cores by the end of the socket, 4 or 5 years from now, and potentially your third GPU for the system.
Or get the 7800X3D today and you can probably coast all the way to AM6.


Personally I am skipping LGA1700 to see what Arrow Lake has to offer and if it isn't compelling, make the switch to Ryzen 8000, probably some X3D model.

 

[Phil_33]

You can do Intel, but we are already at end of life for LGA1700. 12th gen, 13th gen, and now 14th gen (which is just a refresh of 13th gen with slightly higher clocks, and a few extra E cores on the 14700)

AM5 should have at least 2 more generations of hardware coming. 8000 series, 8000X3D series, 9000 series and potentially 9000X3D series if that stays distinct. Or possibly more.

AM4 lasted 4.5 generations. 1000 series, 2000 series, 3000 series, 5000 series, and the in between 4000 series aimed at OEMs. Plus the first X3D chips they offered in the form of the 5800X3D and extremely recently the 5600X3D.

Pick up a 12400 today, upgrade to an i7-14700K later on. Or pick up a 13700 today and not upgrade at all. Just depends on what you want the upfront cost to be.

Pick up a Ryzen 7600X today, and upgrade all the way to 16 or more cores by the end of the socket, 4 or 5 years from now, and potentially your third GPU for the system.
Or get the 7800X3D today and you can probably coast all the way to AM6.


Personally I am skipping LGA1700 to see what Arrow Lake has to offer and if it isn't compelling, make the switch to Ryzen 8000, probably some X3D model.

I saw some video's about Ryzen 7000 series being too hot:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGuFq3jm9hM
AMD is known for hot things. What are your thoughts about it? Also 7600x should work well with any amd gpu's and I have an eye for a potential 6700xt maybe as time goes by and I see enough reviews an RX 7700xt. Because I don't have the money right away anyway, but I do want to know which path I need to go.

 

[Kona45primo]

If I had to build anything right now it would be AM5. Should be supported with new CPU's into 2026 if this article is to be believed https://www.extremetech.com/computi...will-extend-to-2026-zen-5-to-use-rnda-35-gpus

As for 7000 series being too hot, it's true compared to the 5000 series. But it's not a design flaw. When CPU power is needed these chips will boost power until a certain temp, higher than the old CPU's. They are still much more power efficient than Intel. by a significant margin. They still run cooler than Intel as well.

That being said Intel or AMD will be a perfectly fine purchase, I just like doing CPU upgrades every couple of years and AM5 is the only current platform that would allow me to do so.

 

[Phil_33]

If I had to build anything right now it would be AM5. Should be supported with new CPU's into 2026 if this article is to be believed https://www.extremetech.com/computi...will-extend-to-2026-zen-5-to-use-rnda-35-gpus

As for 7000 series being too hot, it's true compared to the 5000 series. But it's not a design flaw. When CPU power is needed these chips will boost power until a certain temp, higher than the old CPU's. They are still much more power efficient than Intel. by a significant margin. They still run cooler than Intel as well.

That being said Intel or AMD will be a perfectly fine purchase, I just like doing CPU upgrades every couple of years and AM5 is the only current platform that would allow me to do so.

I see thanks! I see that you also have ryzen, how does it run? Does it run good with amd gpu's? I believe you can let them cooperate with eachother.

 

[Kona45primo]

No issues with the CPU. The 5700x is plenty for what I need and I'm not gaming enought to justify the final bump up to a 5800x3d. The build started early on AM4, one of the reasons I'm pro AM5. It was initially built with a 1600x upgraded to a 3700x and finally the current 5700x. No complaints at all. There was a notable performance and memory compatibility improvementwith each upgrade.

This motherboard and various CPU's have had 5 video cards, 3 Nvidia and 2 AMD. Each was an upgrade but I can't say that Nvidia or AMD was better as the cards were significantly different. The two last.GPU's were AMD 6700xt & 6900xt. Compared to the 970, 980, and 3060 the AMD's were just stronger cards. Both Nvidia & AMD worked completely fine. I looked into price vs performance for gaming w/out ray tracing and AMD came out on top for the games I was playing at the time. It was a pretty decent jump in performance every upgrade.

 

[Phil_33]

No issues with the CPU. The 5700x is plenty for what I need and I'm not gaming enought to justify the final bump up to a 5800x3d. The build started early on AM4, one of the reasons I'm pro AM5. It was initially built with a 1600x upgraded to a 3700x and finally the current 5700x. No complaints at all. There was a notable performance and memory compatibility improvementwith each upgrade.

This motherboard and various CPU's have had 5 video cards, 3 Nvidia and 2 AMD. Each was an upgrade but I can't say that Nvidia or AMD was better as the cards were significantly different. The two last.GPU's were AMD 6700xt & 6900xt. Compared to the 970, 980, and 3060 the AMD's were just stronger cards. Both Nvidia & AMD worked completely fine. I looked into price vs performance for gaming w/out ray tracing and AMD came out on top for the games I was playing at the time. It was a pretty decent jump in performance every upgrade.

Does a brand matter? Msi or asrock? B650? Or an x motherboard? If I'm doing this I wanna let my motherboard live for as long as possible.

 

[ilukey77]

7600 non x and a decent b650 for future proofing ..
anything else is a either a total waste ( 5800x3d is a great cpu as a owner of one myself but AM4 is dated now ) or soon to be dead ( i cant in good faith recommend anything 12th or 13th gen with the 14 around the corner then a new platform for 15th LGA1700 seems a waste of money )

 

[shady28]

Hi, so I'm currently looking at 5600x, 7600x, 12600k and the 13600k. I'm someone who is only upgrading if it has to (like when its starting to fail), every 8-10 years and I'm also on a budget. You do have upgrade combo's but the thing is if I wanna have ddr5 then I think I might need to go more expensive. I'm looking to upgrade to an rx 6700xt when the time arrives. Anyway,...

My system now is:
Specs
i7 6700 non k (2015)
Z170 gaming a msi (2015)
16gb ram ddr4 2100 speed (2015)
Arctic cooler 34r
1tb, ssd (for games) (2022), spare 1,5tb hdd (2012 but not in use anymore), 240gb ssd (for windows) (2015)
XFX rx590 8gb VRAM (downvolted) (2018)
Corsair rmx 750w 2021 (2022)
Fractal design meshify 2 (2022)
Display: LG 24GM79G 24inch 1080p 144hz (2019)

Games
Currently: Horizon Zero Dawn, Forza Horizon 5, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Warframe, Destiny 2,...
Future (looking to play this in max settings at 70-144fps/hz): aaa games like Horizon Forbidden West, GTA 6,...

I really wanna stretch as much time as possible on cpu's so that I only have to upgrade my card once. Which one should I take? Mind you, I have only used intel. I've never used ryzen. I do have an arctic r34 cooler but need to upgrade to lga1700 or am5 if needed. Only costs 13 euro's. I live in Belgium btw.

In your scenario I would just go with the cheapest option on the CPUs, get a decent motherboard for longevity and support, and middling DDR5-6000. That's probably a 12600K or KF depending on where you're located.

Use any money saved to upgrade the SATA SSDs. I think a good higher end PCIe X4 512GB to replace that really old 2015 OS SATA SSD would run ~$50 right now. Something like a WD or Samsung. Outside performance I'd be afraid of failures with that drive being 8 years old, and right now is a good time to buy storage.

 

[Phil_33]

7600 non x and a decent b650 for future proofing ..
anything else is a either a total waste ( 5800x3d is a great cpu as a owner of one myself but AM4 is dated now ) or soon to be dead ( i cant in good faith recommend anything 12th or 13th gen with the 14 around the corner then a new platform for 15th LGA1700 seems a waste of money )

A bit on this more, I think I might have an idea of indeed doing this. B650 is actually quiet good cause it's AM5 and it'll support all the way up to 9000 maybe before AM6 comes out. The thing is, I don't think I need overclocking with the CPU this way. I have a 6700 non k but on a Z170 motherboard. Now as I understood it, Z stands for overclocking, while B stands for no support for overclocking. I didn't overclocked my CPU in the past 8 years.

And get this: I was searching for CPU bundles/upgrade kits. Turns out they only have X and K versions available as upgrade kits. So if I wanna have the non x/k version I'll have to assemble on my own. No bundles or upgrade kits.

However, I wonder, should I go for the cheaper 7600 non X or should I go for the 7600x for more future proofing?

 

[sonofjesse]

If your in the USA, MC has amazing AM5 deals with FREE RAM. It looks like your not in USA.

See if any local retailers have similar deals.

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

 

[Zerk2012]

A bit on this more, I think I might have an idea of indeed doing this. B650 is actually quiet good cause it's AM5 and it'll support all the way up to 9000 maybe before AM6 comes out. The thing is, I don't think I need overclocking with the CPU this way. I have a 6700 non k but on a Z170 motherboard. Now as I understood it, Z stands for overclocking, while B stands for no support for overclocking. I didn't overclocked my CPU in the past 8 years.

And get this: I was searching for CPU bundles/upgrade kits. Turns out they only have X and K versions available as upgrade kits. So if I wanna have the non x/k version I'll have to assemble on my own. No bundles or upgrade kits.

However, I wonder, should I go for the cheaper 7600 non X or should I go for the 7600x for more future proofing?

No such thing as future proofing unless your going to upgrade the CPU within 3 years it don't matter if you go with intel or AMD.

For a cheaper solution if you can get the mounting bracket for your CPU cooler about 750 with the video card, the 5700X is about 50/60% faster than the CPU you have.

Your money just giving you a different option.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€192.80 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€107.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€65.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (€377.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €743.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 00:02 CEST+0200

 

[ilukey77]

A bit on this more, I think I might have an idea of indeed doing this. B650 is actually quiet good cause it's AM5 and it'll support all the way up to 9000 maybe before AM6 comes out. The thing is, I don't think I need overclocking with the CPU this way. I have a 6700 non k but on a Z170 motherboard. Now as I understood it, Z stands for overclocking, while B stands for no support for overclocking. I didn't overclocked my CPU in the past 8 years.

And get this: I was searching for CPU bundles/upgrade kits. Turns out they only have X and K versions available as upgrade kits. So if I wanna have the non x/k version I'll have to assemble on my own. No bundles or upgrade kits.

However, I wonder, should I go for the cheaper 7600 non X or should I go for the 7600x for more future proofing?

7600x and non x are really the same the non x has a few set backs but as a entry point its a solid gaming cpu ..
the non x has lower TDP it doesnt or at least i dont think boosts by default to 95c ( with in specs ) so easier to cool and its cheaper ..

I just recently sold my 7600x as when the 7800x3d released i swapped over .. still lost about paid $480aud ( i think) sold for $300aud ( although while still a great cpu it was more of just get rid of it and recover some money ) as it was just a place holder part while waiting for the x3d's ..

If you look at replacing the cpu generationally then why spend to much if your thinking 9000series not 8000series 7800x3d or 7900x / non x and sit on it !!

 

[ilukey77]

No such thing as future proofing unless your going to upgrade the CPU within 3 years it don't matter if you go with intel or AMD.

For a cheaper solution if you can get the mounting bracket for your CPU cooler about 750 with the video card, the 5700X is about 50/60% faster than the CPU you have.

Your money just giving you a different option.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€192.80 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€107.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€65.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (€377.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €743.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 00:02 CEST+0200

But if fairness if you buy Intel now its a waste of money even if you upgrade every 3 years or less !!

Where as AMD is still giving better socket life even if 9000series is the last AM5 platform cpu you could basically drop in the latest and greatest AMD has to offer at that point and see how the chips fall with both Intel and AMD before making an investment in a new platform be it 10000series or whatever gen intel is pushing at that point

If AMD stick with their current strategy of pushing out the normal CPU's letting Intel beat them then crushing them in gaming with the x3d's i figure 9000 series x3d will be 2026 maybe 2027 !!

( while i dont know for sure but past has shown us now for 2 gens intel have been left grabbing their ankles and coughing with no answer when AMD release the x3ds after intel's full releases )

This gen for AMD with their higher x3d cpu's have been hit and miss the 7950x3d is just a 7800x3d really the 7950x3d falls behind in overall performance over the 13900k ..
single ccd stacking is what ruined that..

Dont get me started on the 7900x3d !!

If the 8950x3d offers amazing production work performance and AMD get the 3d v cache stacking right then you could be looking at a new king of kings CPU !!

 

[Zerk2012]

But if fairness if you buy Intel now its a waste of money even if you upgrade every 3 years or less !!

Where as AMD is still giving better socket life even if 9000series is the last AM5 platform cpu you could basically drop in the latest and greatest AMD has to offer at that point and see how the chips fall with both Intel and AMD before making an investment in a new platform be it 10000series or whatever gen intel is pushing at that point

If AMD stick with their current strategy of pushing out the normal CPU's letting Intel beat them then crushing them in gaming with the x3d's i figure 9000 series x3d will be 2026 maybe 2027 !!

( while i dont know for sure but past has shown us now for 2 gens intel have been left grabbing their ankles and coughing with no answer when AMD release the x3ds after intel's full releases )

This gen for AMD with their higher x3d cpu's have been hit and miss the 7950x3d is just a 7800x3d really the 7950x3d falls behind in overall performance over the 13900k ..
single ccd stacking is what ruined that..

Dont get me started on the 7900x3d !!

If the 8950x3d offers amazing production work performance and AMD get the 3d v cache stacking right then you could be looking at a new king of kings CPU !!

Well if you look at his last processor is a 6700 that is a lot of years between upgrades (8 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) so what you say means nothing. Most people don't just upgrade every year or 2😉
I stand 100% behind what I said and gave him a good lower priced upgrade option from what he has.

I went from a 4790K to a 10600K that's a bunch of years and still have absolutely 0 reasons to upgrade yet>

If you think you need the latest and greatest every year something new comes out then great for you.

 

[ilukey77]

Well if you look at his last processor is a 6700 that is a lot of years between upgrades (8 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) so what you say means nothing. Most people don't just upgrade every year or 2😉
I stand 100% behind what I said and gave him a good lower priced upgrade option from what he has.

I went from a 4790K to a 10600K that's a bunch of years and still have absolutely 0 reasons to upgrade yet>

If you think you need the latest and greatest every year something new comes out then great for you.

you dont need the latest and greatest every year ..
Not to say people cant buy what they want every year but dealing with dead platforms can still be classed as a waste of good money too!!

 

[Phil_33]

No such thing as future proofing unless your going to upgrade the CPU within 3 years it don't matter if you go with intel or AMD.

For a cheaper solution if you can get the mounting bracket for your CPU cooler about 750 with the video card, the 5700X is about 50/60% faster than the CPU you have.

Your money just giving you a different option.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€192.80 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€107.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€65.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (€377.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €743.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 00:02 CEST+0200

Thanks for helping, but, future proofing does exist for me:

View: https://youtu.be/sB98WrSNlKM


AMD AM5 motherboards are now out and will carry me all the way trough to 9000 series.
It might be cheaper but B motherboards don't overclock and I'm never gonna overclock a cpu anyway. Still thank you for the help.

7600x and non x are really the same the non x has a few set backs but as a entry point its a solid gaming cpu ..
the non x has lower TDP it doesnt or at least i dont think boosts by default to 95c ( with in specs ) so easier to cool and its cheaper ..

I just recently sold my 7600x as when the 7800x3d released i swapped over .. still lost about paid $480aud ( i think) sold for $300aud ( although while still a great cpu it was more of just get rid of it and recover some money ) as it was just a place holder part while waiting for the x3d's ..

If you look at replacing the cpu generationally then why spend to much if your thinking 9000series not 8000series 7800x3d or 7900x / non x and sit on it !!

Thank you so much for that explanation. I think I'll buy the 7600 non X and sit on it for a while. I'll have a free cooler as well!

 

[ilukey77]

Thanks for helping, but, future proofing does exist for me:

View: https://youtu.be/sB98WrSNlKM


AMD AM5 motherboards are now out and will carry me all the way trough to 9000 series.
It might be cheaper but B motherboards don't overclock and I'm never gonna overclock a cpu making the X's irrelevant. Still thank you for the help.

Thank you so much fir that explenation. I think I'll buy the 7600 non X and sit on it for a while.

you're welcome i wish you the best with your new build !

 

[Phil_33]

you're welcome i wish you the best with your new build !

Thanks, I think I'll do it right this time. It'll still take a while since I don't have the money right away, but I'll get there. As you can see, my built now is Z170 with 6700 non k. Doesn't make sense since I have a motherboard that allows to overclock but don't have the overclockable cpu.

Also a question, the asrock motherboard has a heatsink that overlaps the elements at the back, the asus prime p for instance doesn't have this. Does this matter or not?