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I want to set up a web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000 and I'm not sure what to get.

From previous research, the Athlon proved to be the faster (on this web site and the AMD website), but recently in the P4 2Ghz article, the benchmarks proved something different. It displayed Benchmarks for Windows 2000 and the dominate processor was the P4s, even the P4 1.5 Ghz was quicker than the Athlon 1400.

I'm a little confused now what to get for a web/e-commerce server. Some of the benchmarks in the 2Ghz article on this web site show the Athlons as Athlon 1400/133. Does this mean the processor was running at the 133 bus and not the 266 bus?

So which processor should I get?

An Athlon 1.4Ghz or P4 1.5Ghz?

Any help to clarify things would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Sooty Pooh!
 
*sighs*

firstly... there is only one "pooh" on this board. its me the grand poobaa. *grins*

secondly... all current amd products use a DOUBLE pumped system bus.
thus 100mhz = 200, 133 = 266.
133/266 are usually interchangable.

thirdly... i doubt you will ever notice the difference between a athlon 1.4 and an p4. anyway... as you said different benchmarks give different results, thus, take the benchmarks with a grain of salt.

i just say look at the price of each and see how they fit your budget. if you want to spend alot of money of the best of the best, go for the P4.
if you want to save alot of cash, go the athlon 1.4.

I'll respect your comments & opinions, even if i disagree with them, Provided you display maturity.
 
An AZZA board with the new via ddr chipset for socket 478 is coming out next week, for about $112. I don't know if any of the major boardmakers will use this chipset, but with a 1.7 cpu, it will run about $360.
 
personally, I would not put AMD on a work server, home server use is ok (I have active directory and stuff at home, writing this from Win2k srv), but not the real world apps (just my thought :)

Post, we'll do the "search"... :wink:
 
I'm not sure but I think it should be ok to use an amd in a server, Rackspace.com uses them.

When I go into a computer store I lose all means of reason for some reason.
 
I wouldn't hesitate to put an AMD in a server. Unless someone just happened to drop some xenons into my lap.

What is the difference between <font color=red>pink</font color=red> and <font color=purple>purple</font color=purple>? The <b>GRIP</b>!
 
ja, so does Anandtech. I have no problems getting 100% stable Athlon servers going.

Kelledin

"/join #hackerz. See the Web. DoS interesting people."
 
did you guys bother to read what his needs were? he said he's looking for a web/e-commerce solution, not a damn bbs board like anandtech!

you ppl need a spanking!

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
 
And RackSpace *doesn't* do web/e-commerce solutions? :tongue:

Besides which, AnandTech's servers still make the point well enough. I know this breaks your heart, but AMD systems are quite stable.

Kelledin

"/join #hackerz. See the Web. DoS interesting people."
 
What I don't get is if the P4 2GHz only outperforms the 1.4tb by 10~20 percent then why would you even consider a p4 1.5GHz?

What is the difference between <font color=red>pink</font color=red> and <font color=purple>purple</font color=purple>? The <b>GRIP</b>!
 
I say get the P4 if you need the most power, Tbird if your on a budget. The P4 will only be a little faster, but if the server is gonna get smacked you may need that extra bit. Also SCSI drives will help alot if you are feeding lots of different files out, so you may want to set down with your budget and see what you can get, taking into account that memory, bandwidth, and drive speed are all at least as important as the CPU you decide to use!
 
Get the Athlon for sure! It will significantly outperform the 1.5GHz P4 anyday. There is nothing wrong with using the Athlon as a server unless you want to overclock it. Just get top-quality components and you're set.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by AMD_Man on 08/31/01 03:36 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Crap, I read the original question wrong....P4 1.5 vs Tbird 1.4, Tbird wins every time. I was thinking 2000 vs 1400. The Tbird 1400 with some nice LVD160 are certainly the way to go =)
 
Hey, buddy, I said "just my thought", read carefully first, then accuse.

And the reason I have said it, because I have P3 and K7 exact same systems with exact same servers on them, and sometimes (once in a very looooong while) K7 gives me HARD LOCK, it is just dead, I have to use hard reset to bring it back. Thats under very hard load (downloading stuff with GetRight, running ZoneAlarm, playing UT, blah, blah, blah and then "wooops", hellooo, are you alive :?(

That is why I have said so, and that is my own experience and opinion, not a "fud, buddy" 😉


Post, we'll do the "search"... :wink:
 
I have the same problem with my Athlon system, once in a while (1-2 weeks) my machine will lock hard. I'm a true believer in AMD Athlon line of products for workstations but when it comes to server I'm a bit less confident. I personnaly only trust OEM Server manufacturers for servers and preffer IBM. You really get what you pay for. I dont say that AMD as not a good product for servers but when OEM's will trust them, I will. It's the same with Intel clones, I will never put a clone computer as a server, but it's only my opinion.

It's better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick!
 
I like AMD systems, they "seam" a little faster than Intel ones, but AMD systems have their problems with mobo chipsets, not the CPU, so if someone will give me a good chipset mobo, I would (maybe) put it on the commercial server.

Post, we'll do the "search"... :wink:
 
You got that right AMD=Play, Intel=Work. Just my thoughts...

😎 <font color=blue> I know nothing that is why i am here at THG!</font color=blue>
 
Even I am trying to use them "backward" AMD=Work, Intel=Both, but I am getting more and more convinced that AMD=Games, Intel=Anything. Just my observations...

Post, we'll do the "search"... :wink:
 
Look at the MSI K7 Master. I heard a lot of good things about that motherboard.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
 
<i>What I don't get is if the P4 2GHz only outperforms the 1.4tb by 10~20 percent then why would you even consider a p4 1.5GHz?</i>

Budget is the main killer

Sooty Pooh!
 
Hehehe - """ I want to set up a web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000 and I'm not sure what to get. """

Hehehe - """ Budget is the main killer """

Hehehe - what kind of a """web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000""" you are talking about if you have such a tight budget that you cant pay 200 bux more for the prosesir? I think you will loose much more if you will have decent business going and yer "web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000" will make a hiccup during busy day (just my thought, no "fud"), but then again, Intel can stop working any time as well (just my experience, no "fud"), hehehe

Just a curiosity, but I wonder what you are going to sell?

Anyway, that was funny... heh


Post, we'll do the "search"... :wink:
 
<i>Hehehe - """ Budget is the main killer """

Hehehe - what kind of a """web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000""" you are talking about if you have such a tight budget that you cant pay 200 bux more for the prosesir? I think you will loose much more if you will have decent business going and yer "web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000" will make a hiccup during busy day (just my thought, no "fud"), but then again, Intel can stop working any time as well (just my experience, no "fud"), hehehe</i>

Good point. Might have to hold off a little longer if I'm going to go for the P4 2Ghz.

The reason why we're on a tight budget is because we're starting up a new company from scratch. We currently don't have anyone backing me up like a VC. We've only got so much money to allocate to different parts of the business.

<i>Just a curiosity, but I wonder what you are going to sell?</i>

We specialise in Performance gear for BMWs. We make some of the best and fastest supercharged BMWs in Australia. We're looking export it to the US and the UK where we've already had interest. Plus we're making our own gear. We've got some products at this stage being drawn up for paitenting. We'll also be putting together information together to educate customers what everything does and we'll be providing it in such a way that they'll be able to make clear educated decisions. One that is currently very hard to do at this stage on the internet. We can't tell you much more than that, but wish us luck!

Sooty Pooh!

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sootypooh on 08/31/01 08:36 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
"I want to set up a web/e-commerce server on Windows 2000 and I'm not sure what to get".
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Take in account UNIX as an alternative also when thinking about customers, reliability of services. Check local HP used stuff store.
My buddy bought UX server for the price of PC's. I saw Sparcs Solaris for $3000CND, delivery included.
 
I'd personally stay away from HP-UX though. Last I heard, half the software is about six versions behind the times. FreeBSD or Linux would do well though.

Kelledin

"/join #hackerz. See the Web. DoS interesting people."
 
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