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Well, there is one way to go then: get anything you can afford at this point and when you will get business going get something better.

Athlon will do the job well for the beginning, difference between 1 GHz and 1.4 is only 40-50 bux I believe, there is no such a big need in that fast of the prosesir for a start-up web site (I dont think you will get much traffic in the beginning) and 1 Gig is way more than there are on the websites which were build even 1 year ago, so save on prosesir and get high quality mobo and SCSI harddrive setup, that thing will give you much quicker response time than any speed CPU with IDE, especially on high traffic.

But again, those just are my thoughts, that is what I would personally do, start with what I can get and grow with business growing (cos, I dont know if there will be any business at all, so I will spend all that money for nothing). Ask around, you may get a cheap P3 system somewhere.

Good luck with your stuff.


Post, we'll do the "search"... :wink:
 
Hey, got a job for me in Melbourne?

Go for it I say, good luck with your new venture.



Medication helps :smile:
 
well.. right now i have a dual intel system. before i had a dual intel system. it'll be another 1 1/2-2 years before a new system, but i'll guarntee you it's going to be an amd system. just so tired of intel.

CPUs are like testicles, every computer should have 2!
 
Yes, I agree with you about HP,
and Linux as a better solution.
In comparison with Win2000 (and any MS product) also.
More reliable and secure for web services, in my understanding.
Probably, the look (interface) of Win2000 is more fancy and pleasant though.
 
Budget is the main killer
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Sorry, I've been gone for a while. The 1.4 tb will definately out preform a 1.5p4, it's on par with a 1.8p4. So I'm trying to say is why are you comparing a 1.4tb to a 2Ghz p4 and going to go with the 1.5 p4 ... I don't get it. I say just use dual athlon MP's if you have the cash for a 2Ghzp4.

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Well said Yah.
Win2000 on dual Athlon4 will leave any Pee from Intel miles behind. Even dual Pee has no chance.

Breaking news: Intel hit by a SledgeHammer! AMD to blame! More in just a moment...
 
Some of the benchmarks showed the P4 1.5ghz out performing the Athlon 1.4Ghz in certain tasks.

Maybe my mention of the 2Ghz P4 was unfair.

Sooty Pooh!
 
So if I programmed a test that showed the K6-2 outperforming an overclocked 2.2GHz Northwood and posted it on the internet, you'd all believe that a K6-2 is faster than a 2.2GHz Northwood? Actually, some people would.
Too bad I'm not a programmer.



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LoL, yeah, one benchmark only a videoeditor(not 3d rendering mind you) would use, woop de doo, and with the kt266a the 1.4ghz tbird is EQUAL to the p4 2ghz and will out perform the 1.8.

~Matisaro~
"Friends don't let friends buy Pentiums"
~Tbird1.3@1.55~
 
Hmmm Webserver!! huh!!!

Well somebody correct me if I am wrong...but shouldn't the focus be on fast harddrive with low access times...lots of fast ram...etc...

CPU Pentium 3 600 will do just fine....

But if you are a serious Company but only real small. and dont want to deal with maintaining a Webserver get a host...
They will charge you a monthly fee and quarantee that the servers will always be online...

Sounds like you are otherwise heading in to too much trouble if you already have a problem deciding on the CPU...

But thats the Problem all Newbees...they only see Mhz...they dont see the importance of having a complete system as long as its a P-4 2 giga hertz with 128 PC-133 RAM ...etc... Hey Neebees buy a C-64...and work your way up.

I miss the days when computers where not a mass medium...
 
WTF?
You're going to use a P3 600 as a webserver? Alright...

And BTW, he's asking about CPUs, not RAM and hard drives. I would assume he already has those figured out, or is waiting for later to decide, or whatever.

Lots of people have trouble deciding between Intel and AMD. Both companies made good products. Is there a problem with that?



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Ok maybe p 600 is too weak...

As if the information he gives you is enough to diagnose that he will require a P-4. Or P-3, or AMD. He did not say how much Traffic he will have/expects (afterall he is a real business), what kind of web applications will be running etc.

Infact maybe he should get a Dual P-3 600 and he might be better off.

My diagnostic is just as valid or invalid as yours. And you can say what you want. Fact remains he can better get a professional Host.

Not all too long ago people were running Webservers on P-600 or less.

But as I said any suggestion made in this thread is superfluous, as nobody (which includes myself) has enough information to give proper advice.

When accusing me of making a mistake, dont be pathetic to commit the same mistake that you are accusing me of doing. Because what does that make you?
 
He asked for the best bang for his buck, and be it dual athlopnmp's or a single 1.4 its AMD. He asked a question about cpu's and I answered it. You were the one who brought all this extra crap into the equasion. He did not ask about harddrives or ram, he asked specifically about the cpu.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~
 
http/web server is not that cpu intensive. It in most cases just reads files and sends them to the requesting client. Running Word or Photoshop is muh more CPU/resource intensive unless you are doing multiple GB/s per day.

I have a little Cellery 333 with 64 megs RAM running as a little staging server here and it occasionally hits 500M-1GB in a day. Most web sites only do a few 10's of megs/day, so if a server isn't expected to hit multiple gigs/day, even a 600mhz CPU is plenty. If running Linux you can cut it in half again...down to 300mhz.

Of course, my little staging server is running PWS on Win98, so that can affect stability...I have to reboot on average every 10 days or so.

Also, just a year or so ago many companies were running 450mhz systems as servers and those were considered top end systems. So 600 mhz should be fine unless running Win2K or something.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
 
As if the information he gives you is enough to diagnose that he will require a P-4. Or P-3, or AMD.
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So which processor should I get?

An Athlon 1.4Ghz or P4 1.5Ghz?
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Read what they're asking, and don't talk down to us.



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WEll Fatburger.

What is the Anwser then, on all your posts you do not anwser his question either. In fact, you already went off on a tangeant before I contributed to the thread. LAbbering about benchmarks.

And if you read the other posts of the Original Author, you will notice that he is on a budget.

As for AMD or Intel, I do regard them as equals with small differences. The P-600 was only used as an example.

Obviously for some reason you are taking the thread personal (including other threads). I am flathered that my remarks seem to annoy you, and provoke reaction. But remember you critised me first, including the Person with the dilemma, and various other users. Which does not mean that critsism is bad, however you only have a negativ attitude, towards people who dont share your opinion or try to add to a discussion.

Which Processor is going to be AMD 1.4 or Intel 2.0??
Which one would you get? Afterall I am totally wrong and have no clue what so ever. Natrually you do!
 
I went off on a tangent about benchmarks? Not at all. He said something about a P4 1.5 beating a Tbird 1.4 in "some tests", so I told him to look at the big picture, in a round-about way.

I shouldn't have belittled your comment about using a P3-600. You made a good point. I apologize.

Making the thread personal? I just dislike being talked down to by someone first setting foot in these forums. It happens all the times, and it drives me (and many others) nuts. Too many people don't realize how much knowledge there is around here. I'm only just starting to feel like I know some of what I'm talking about.

"But remember you critised me first, including the Person with the dilemma, and various other users."

I criticised you, yes. But because you had a haughty attitude and didn't answer the original question (but acted like you were). Not because of your opinions.
When did I criticise anyone else? I don't think I did, or didn't mean to.

"you only have a negativ attitude, towards people who dont share your opinion or try to add to a discussion."
Not at all. Like I said before, it's how things are said, not what is said.


So now you want me to answer his original question? Very well. Here's my answer:

I'd recommend the Tbird 1.4
It will crush the P4 1.5 in pretty much every circumstance you can throw at it.



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All AMD machines are in harms way when in the event of cooling failure and the processor can destroy itself in a matter of seconds. You can think that it wont happen to me but your betting on a HSF with a "lets pray" >1 year life expectancy depending on the quality and environment.

Check out the daily, "help with my AMD" posts on this forum. the reason why they are asking for help is because they are overheating and crashing/causing alot of problems.

Hard to find 1 page without someone with such problem.

Go with the Intel P4/478 since they are available now. I would not recomend DDR/SDR motherboard for socket 478 since the manufacturers did not have rights to produce nor the Intel bus designs to produce such chipset perfectly. These motherboards are created through reverse engineering of the i850 chipset.
 
Follow FUGGERS advice if you want to spend more money and get less performance, FUGGER has been proven an intel troll time and time again, and has NOTHING to contribute to a meaningful discussion.

Get the processor which suits your budget best, the athlon 1.4 will be more powerful than the p41.5 and it cost less, the choice could NOT be more blatantly obvious.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~
 
Sebester, the origional poster IS on a budget, then can you, realizing he is on a budget, JUSTIFY, spending more for a p4 which will perform less?

Thought not.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~
 
At least someone who gives some decent advise.
Indeed, I do not think cpu performance should be the prime concern. I really- REALLY - doubt a startup shop for BMW spares/add ons would generate so much traffic, a Celeron 300 wouldnt be able to cope with it. I used to work for a webagency that did its own hosting.. for some major local (belgian) customers (Fortis, Samsonite and others). Fastest machine we had was a dual Pentium II 450... and most sites where on shared servers with a cpu load well below 10%..

So, a few remarks:
1) do not get ONE machine, get at the very least two (one database, one webserver) that are half as fast.

2) Make your setup as redudant as possible. Yes, that would mean 4 machines ideally (2x web, 2x db), but they could be the slowest machines you can still buy. (also, consider used servers)

3) You cannot possibly be budget restrained on the cpu.. Do you know what a SQL server licence costs these days ?? That buys you a truckload of cpu's !!

4) Think UNIX/Linux. More uptime, less licence fees (none), lower hardware requirements.

5) think ISP. On the long run, it *will* be cheaper, more reliable and more flexible.

Athlon or P3/4 really seems like a non issue here to me..

---- Owner of the only Dell computer with an AMD chip
 
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