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Abdullah Sohail

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I am just a 14 year old boy and dont know much about mobo's and custom build pc's.I have build a low budget custom built pc and i am confused.I planned to put these parts together:
asus gtx 750 ti OC 2GB DDR5 (price 180$)
thermaltake 530W smart series psu(price 50$)
cpu Pentium G3258 haswell aniversary edition (price 90$)
and ram and acessories
now i am confused with these:
asus h81m-c or asus b85m-g mobo
i was planning to buy b85 but my friend suggested that i should spend less on mobo and buy a core i3 4130.the cost difference between the mobo's is around 30$ and so between the cpus so what should i buy?:??: :??: :??: :??: :??:
 
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2 things:

1) firstly as you are a novice I don't recommend the G3285 which is mostly targeted at enthusiasts who want to have fun trying to overclock a Pentium. It's Intel giving a present to their fans. You're not really the target market.

2) As you're gaming I don't recommend the G3285 as it's only dual core and many new games don't work at all on a dual core processor.

In conclusion: don't buy the G3285. Several other above have already said the same, I'll repeat it: although Intel make the fastest processors, you need a bigger...
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Personally I would recommend not buying a graphics card at all right now and use that $180 on a better CPU and motherboard.

Those 2 are components that will last you longer.


Try and go for a i5 4590 coupled with a MSI B85-G43 or whatever version of B85 you were going for ( the one I mention is nice and cheap).

The reason I say no GPU for now is well a 750Ti is really really low end. You might as well just run games on low with onboard for a year and play with low graphics then invest in a nice GPU ) perhaps current gen then or just one generation old.

Purchasing such old GPU's is really unwise because with each passing year the low end cards that are released are actually catching up to the mid end cards of a couple of years ago.

Also saving for a newer and better GPU would mean your ENTIRE pc is better not just one component as your friend suggested.

I have done this myself when I was still young and strapped for cash and this method is by far my best recommendation.
 
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What do you want to do with your PC? EG: Gaming? photoshop? Media server? What we recommend you buy will depend entirely on what you're trying to achieve.

Be as specific as you can be, eg if you want to play games, what games?
 
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Getting a better CPU and holding out on the GPU is good advice, this way when you upgrade, it simply requires adding a graphics card and not pulling out an old CPU and replacing it, leaving you with a pentium that will go to waste.

The one component on your list that really concerns me however is your power supply, it is pretty low end and the power supply is not something you want to skimp on as it supports your whole system. A good power supply will last you years and years and when it does die, it goes gently. A bad power supply can last you years or it can die in a month, it is completely random and when a bad power supply goes it can send a surge that damages your system.

I dont know where you are at or what your availability to parts is but I would recommend looking on this list and choosing something from the Tier 2 section at least.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
 
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gopher1369 stole my answer. The worst thing you could do is to buy any component only to find out that it's really not very good for what you're wanting it to do. If you're wanting to do graphics, surfing the internet and doing email, your needs (and the amount of money you spend) are far less than for gaming. The only thing I can see from the things on your wish list that I would definitely change is the motherboard. The two best board manufacturers in terms of RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization) are Gigabyte and MSI. Basically, they have less returns to them because of some problem. If you're dead set on getting the B85 chipset then you can get the board that @Christiaan Lourens is speaking of for $15 dollars cheaper than the ASUS boards you mention. My preference in motherboards is Gigabyte and you can get the Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H for only $59.00. Two better boards (in my opinion) and you're saving $15.00-$30.00.
Aside from the motherboard, let us know what you want to do with your computer....and congrats on your first build.
 
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It sounds like you want to play games, so I'm going to reply with that assumption.

Intel does have the best processors, but AMD are much better for budget builds and learning the basics of PC building in my opinion. Plus, with DX12 around the corner, I think you'll find that there won't be much of a difference between low end and high end cpu's moving forward unless you want to play 4K or triple screens.

I wouldn't try to go with any onboard video solution for any amount of time. You pretty much won't be able to play anything unless you get a top of the line APU or something with Intel's newest Iris pro (which you're looking at $220+ just for cpu). For the gpu, you can get a used 7950 for around $125, which will absolutely be better than the 750 ti. I'm sure you can find some deals for Nvidia gpu's used as well; I'm just not familiar with their pricing.

In short, here is what I what I would suggest for a first time PC builder who is on a budget:

Motherboard: Cheapest one possible as long as it has the features you want
CPU: AMD - 6300 or 8320 Intel: any I3 - an I5 is too expensive for first-time budget pc
Ram: 8gb ddr3 1600
GPU: something used that is much faster than you can get new for cheaper (this part will make the biggest difference in games) If you want new, I'd recommend an r9 270 as a minimum
PSU: Evga 430w or 500w (excellent bang for buck for budget pc) It is nice to buy a nice PSU - when you can afford it
Case: something that holds it all together
HDD: 1tb 7200 rpm (an SSD can greatly improve your experience-even if you just have one for the operating system-but adds cost)

By the way, if you happen to live near a micro-center, they have great deals on cpu's and motherboard bundles.

Whatever you choose to do, make no mistake, a 750 ti will absolutely blow integrated graphics away. If you try to play any newer game with integrated graphics, you're going to be disappointed.

In short, I think most of us will agree that there is a cost-benefit decision to made for just about every component. You're going to have to decide what is the most important to you and build accordingly.
 
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This is the short answer...


For Gaming:

A pentium G or i3 will be ok. But you'll get more/better with an AMD build and putting the money you save into a better GPU.


For school/work and no gaming:

Intel i series cpus have integrated graphics. Use that with no discrete card as an Intel CPU will handle most application workloads better than an AMD CPU. This is especially true with modern, well threaded games.
 
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the g3258 is really about overclocking how much overclocking will i get on that board?the gtx 750 will be fine i just want to play games on 960 or 1080 pixels i have seen reveiws it does good.the GA-B85M-DS3H is not available but GA-B85M-D3H is available and the cost difference between asus b85m-g and gigabyte is just 4$ here?
 
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2 things:

1) firstly as you are a novice I don't recommend the G3285 which is mostly targeted at enthusiasts who want to have fun trying to overclock a Pentium. It's Intel giving a present to their fans. You're not really the target market.

2) As you're gaming I don't recommend the G3285 as it's only dual core and many new games don't work at all on a dual core processor.

In conclusion: don't buy the G3285. Several other above have already said the same, I'll repeat it: although Intel make the fastest processors, you need a bigger budget. At the cheaper end you'll get more value buying AMD. Have a read of the AMD FX-6000 processors, look at the prices, read the reviews, i think that's probably your best bet for a CPU for a cheap gaming rig.

Someone above recommended getting a second hand Radeon 7950 as your graphics card. I couldn't agree more. In fact that's exactly what I did. I paid £67 for a 2 year old HIS Radeon 7950Ghz from Ebay earlier this year. I play on a 1080p screen and it plays everything with the settings turned mostly up to full.

The 750Ti is OK, it will play games at decent settings and if you want to buy new it's a good choice, but a used 7950 will absolutely blow it away.

 
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