Question Which CPU was your very first one?

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Djoza said:
Why do you spend 40$ on a mouse?
What is wrong with this 4 dollar one?
Why do you want a mechanical keybaord,the old one works just fine!
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Not a parent, but I definitely fall into this category. I never understood spending (IMO) obscene amounts of money for such basic components. $250 for a keyboard? $180 for a mouse? Are you out of your mind???

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Djoza said:
Dude im 16 i feel like i dont even belong here 💀💀
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Hahah... you're making me feel old... but I'm still just 46.

My first computer ran a Motorola 68000 @ 7.16mhz on a Commodore Amiga 500. It was 1988, I was 14... thanks Dad.

My first PC was a Pentium 75mhz around 1997... and my first build was an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53ghz) with GeForce 3 Ti 200 GPU in 2001.

All of these are older than you... 😆
 
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Wolfshadw said:
Not a parent, but I definitely fall into this category. I never understood spending (IMO) obscene amounts of money for such basic components. $250 for a keyboard? $180 for a mouse? Are you out of your mind???

-Wolf sends
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It's not really that they are expensive, its just that some people are willing to pay that much, so they make it expensive

they could sell some 200 dollar keyboards for 50 bucks and still make a lot of money
 
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TravisPNW said:
Hahah... you're making me feel old... but I'm still just 46.

My first computer ran a Motorola 68000 @ 7.16mhz on a Commodore Amiga 500. It was 1988, I was 14... thanks Dad.

My first PC was a Pentium 75mhz around 1997... and my first build was an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53ghz) with GeForce 3 Ti 200 GPU in 2001.

All of these are older than you... 😆
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im younger than him...
 
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Djoza said:
The problem is that they put it in a 2000$ build..
Like why,there are many other options,or just search on google "best psu for 2000$ pc" and see whats on there.
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Who know what appear at top of their web searches. In some parts of world Google and other major western resources are forbidden too. Also someone without real technical knowledge know particular PSU working in friend's computer (does not matter that friend's computer have iGPU or weak GPU without external 12V power requirement) and due to lack of IQ does not hesitate to propose crappy PSU as solution for anything.
 
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Krotow said:
Who know what appear at top of their web searches. In some parts of world Google and other major western resources are forbidden too. Also someone without real technical knowledge know particular PSU working in friend's computer (does not matter that friend's computer have iGPU or weak GPU without external 12V power requirement) and due to lack of IQ does not hesitate to propose crappy PSU as solution for anything.
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bro im telling you ik this person whose name starts with a d has a Cheiftec ELP 700-S 700W and he is smart I def recommend it
 
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Djoza said:
But for a 16 year old i would say i know plenty of stuff.
Many more years to learn though.
The best thing i learned is that not everything that is more expensive or has more/higher letters/numbers is better,and you should always make sure you have a good powersupply with you.
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Just don't let that get to you head though 😛

But I'm glad you realized this sooner, because a lot of people don't seem to understand that computers are a very personal thing. What works for me only works for me, not anyone else. If your requirements happens to line up with mine, that's just a happy coincidence. But I'll guarantee you in 5 years (if not sooner) there'll be a divergence.

Krotow said:
Any nation have their share of opportunistic weirdos who are willing to help (or "help", depending from their intentions) without a speck of knowledge about topic. Before Internet they usually was known only by people nearby. Public Internet without limits gave them huge playground. Top end CPU with iGPU may be legit case for someone who want upgrade to better GPU later, but didn't had CPU without iGPU in stores available for him. Can't judge without knowing the context. Raidmax Cobra PSU is understandable choice for people in Asia, Africa and some ex-USSR countries where median monthly income for a person is 150-200$. Still is not a wise choice to purchase blatant crap, but I can understand them. In begin of nineties my neto salary was 60$, I know how that is.
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And really, as long as you're not pushing those said components hard, they'll actually last longer than most people give them credit for. My first custom built PC (back in like late 2002) used the PSU that came with the case which I'm sure 99% of people would gag at the thought. Yet that thing lasted for 5 years before croaking. And it only failed, at least from my casual analysis, because the fan died and the unit overheated too many times. Also, this computer was in a sub-tropical environment and the case had rust spots on it within a few years. So for a "piece of junk" running in not the best conditions...

... and also the whole thing that computers should be overclocked to heck and running up to 11 just seems kind of off to me. I actually power limit my computer where it makes sense.
 
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Wolfshadw said:
Not a parent, but I definitely fall into this category. I never understood spending (IMO) obscene amounts of money for such basic components. $250 for a keyboard? $180 for a mouse? Are you out of your mind???

-Wolf sends
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I agree,but 40$ for a g203 and 60$ for a full size mechancial keyboard that will last you atleast 3 years isnt a big expense in my opinion.
 
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TravisPNW said:
Hahah... you're making me feel old... but I'm still just 46.

My first computer ran a Motorola 68000 @ 7.16mhz on a Commodore Amiga 500. It was 1988, I was 14... thanks Dad.

My first PC was a Pentium 75mhz around 1997... and my first build was an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53ghz) with GeForce 3 Ti 200 GPU in 2001.

All of these are older than you... 😆
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I know 😂
 
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hotaru.hino said:
Just don't let that get to you head though 😛

But I'm glad you realized this sooner, because a lot of people don't seem to understand that computers are a very personal thing. What works for me only works for me, not anyone else. If your requirements happens to line up with mine, that's just a happy coincidence. But I'll guarantee you in 5 years (if not sooner) there'll be a divergence.


And really, as long as you're not pushing those said components hard, they'll actually last longer than most people give them credit for. My first custom built PC (back in like late 2002) used the PSU that came with the case which I'm sure 99% of people would gag at the thought. Yet that thing lasted for 5 years before croaking. And it only failed, at least from my casual analysis, because the fan died and the unit overheated too many times. Also, this computer was in a sub-tropical environment and the case had rust spots on it within a few years. So for a "piece of junk" running in not the best conditions...

... and also the whole thing that computers should be overclocked to heck and running up to 11 just seems kind of off to me. I actually power limit my computer where it makes sense.
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My first ever PC was a Packard Bell. Some old Pentium, I can't even remember.

Then I had a Celeron G470, crappy CPU. After that, a Pentium G620 2.6 GHz. Slightly better but still crappy.

Then, an i7-8700. Quite the upgrade I'd say.

And today, gonna rock this 3900X until at least Zen 5.
 
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Colif said:
oh an updated ZX81.
Imagine giving a kid today a ZX81... gl doing anything with 1kb of ram :)
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My workplace still have a box with three dozens of brand new ZX81 in factory packaging. Left from payment terminal software development project 15 years ago.

TravisPNW said:
My first computer ran a Motorola 68000 @ 7.16mhz on a Commodore Amiga 500. It was 1988, I was 14... thanks Dad.
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Was 15 at 1988 :) Had a chance to play Flashback with sound on Amiga 500 at begin of 1993. In comparing with games available on PC at that time it was something amazing. Mostly because VGA adapters in my country at that time was not abundant yet and sound on PC was still a crap (sound cards was expensive then).

hotaru.hino said:
And really, as long as you're not pushing those said components hard, they'll actually last longer than most people give them credit for. My first custom built PC (back in like late 2002) used the PSU that came with the case which I'm sure 99% of people would gag at the thought. Yet that thing lasted for 5 years before croaking.
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Yes, when you use hardware within expected limits, it can work long time. My work computer is a decade old Dell Optiplex 980, i5@750 system. For software development works just fine, except RAM is upgraded to 16 GB and HDD RAID replaced to SSD RAID.

Djoza said:
I agree,but 40$ for a g203 and 60$ for a full size mechancial keyboard that will last you atleast 3 years isnt a big expense in my opinion.
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Yes, especially keyboard. When I decided to purchase mechanical keyboard, I wanted one without RGB rainbow below keys and with Cyrillic symbols on keys. There was very little choice that matched, so ended with 149€ worth Logitech G613 and 50€ worth Logitech G305 mouse - old keyboard and mouse came as single item with single receiver, so I needed a new mouse too. In general I'm happy with them. Though after 3 years still didn't got used to special key row at keyboard left side. Would like to know how to turn them off completely in software without breaking them out.

Two best mechanical keyboards I used so far. One was in German made mainframe text terminal from eighties (came with EC-10...something mainframe). Other - original IBM PC Model M keyboard. Used at home till 1997, until next computer motherboard was not compatible with it anymore. Honestly I would like to have my Model M back, but with USB connection.

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BogdanH said:
Uh, that brings memories back.. some of my milestones:
1982: Z80 at 3.25Mhz (Sinclair ZX81)
1983: Z80A at 3.5Mhz (Sinclair Spectrum)
1986: Motorola 68000 at 8Mhz (Atari ST) -fantastic CPU!
1992: AMD 386sx (first PC) -crap compared to Atari ST
-after that I started building custom PC's ...many of them :)
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Yes, that Motorola 68000 was great CPU, Apple had same ones and I remember using an adapter to ad Apple chipset to make it Apple compatible. So 3 in one Atari with TOS, Apple (don't remember it's mane now, probably Lisa ) and SW emulator for DOS and still was faster than contemporary PCs in that range.
 
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Krotow said:
Was 15 at 1988 :) Had a chance to play Flashback with sound on Amiga 500 at begin of 1993. In comparing with games available on PC at that time it was something amazing. Mostly because VGA adapters in my country at that time was not abundant yet and sound on PC was still a crap (sound cards was expensive then).
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Yep... Amiga was a state of the art media and gaming machine... outclassed PC by a lot in those days. The Video Toaster was amazing too. The Amiga should have done a lot better than it did... but it's my understanding they screwed it up from a business standpoint.


CountMike said:
Yes, that Motorola 68000 was great CPU, Apple had same ones and I remember using an adapter to ad Apple chipset to make it Apple compatible. So 3 in one Atari with TOS, Apple (don't remember it's mane now, probably Lisa ) and SW emulator for DOS and still was faster than contemporary PCs in that range.
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Amiga used it as well.
 
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