Question Which CPU...

[SubGTX]

Hi guys, I am building a newer PC this year (part per month) and I was wondering what CPU I should get? I already bought the motherboard for this month.

The chipset is Z-390
Only supports 8th or 9th gen CPUs

 

[WildCard999]

System uses?

 

[Karadjgne]

Budget and intentions?

 

[SubGTX]

Games, lol games all the time, maybe (if I can find the right program) Autodesk or a Cad program. I listen to music, watch video's.

 

[WildCard999]

Well for pretty much just gaming I'd probably grab the 9600K & good CPU cooler. As long as the motherboard is decent you should be able to get a 5ghz overclock on it.

 

[SubGTX]

My motherboard is the ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F Gaming.
Is the 9600k a good one?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Yup the 9600k is a good CPU for that motherboard.

 

[WildCard999]

My motherboard is the ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F Gaming.
Is the 9600k a good one?

Well for just gaming the 9600K is a good CPU, it has soldered TIM which makes it run a bit cooler then the 8600K and with that board and good cooling 5ghz is achievable.

Although this time around AMD Ryzen definitely has the better price to performance. If you were to look at the cost of the 9600K then consider the cost of a good aftermarket cooler compared to the Ryzen 2700X the 2700X is the much better value and would handle any kind of multi tasking/streaming/workstation stuff much better due to the extra cores/threads.

 

[SubGTX]

Awsume I shall get that one, what do you thank of the 9900k?

 

[WildCard999]

Awsume I shall get that one, what do you thank of the 9900k?

Expensive but a top tier CPU. Good for pretty much everything but there's a few rumors floating around that AMD's next gen (3rd gen) coming out in a couple of months has a 8C/16T CPU that outperforms the 9900K. If that CPU turns out to be the 3600X that means people will get 9900K performance for $229 🤣
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-everything-we-know,38233.html

And on top of that it won't even be AMD best CPU for the release, that would be the Ryzen 9 3850X (16C/32T with a boost clock of 5.1ghz).

 

[NightHawkRMX]

It's not a rumor that the 8c/16t Ryzen 3rd gen will beat the 9900k. AMD Demoed an early sample 8 core 7nm using 30% less power while beating the 9900k in cinebench.
Source:https://hothardware.com/news/amd-gives-sneak-peek-at-7nm-ryzen-3000-zen-2-desktop-cpus-at-ces-2019

 

[SubGTX]

Oh wow, AMD has really stepped up, haven't they?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Haha quite a bit.

 

[WildCard999]

Yep, I haven't seen them do this well since the AMD Phenom days (friend is still rocking my X4 965 @3.8ghz).

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Or the athlon 64 days.

 

[daylightriot]

It's not a rumor that the 8c/16t Ryzen 3rd gen will beat the 9900k. AMD Demoed an early sample 8 core 7nm using 30% less power while beating the 9900k in cinebench.
Source:https://hothardware.com/news/amd-gives-sneak-peek-at-7nm-ryzen-3000-zen-2-desktop-cpus-at-ces-2019

But what will its single thread performance be? I currently have an R5 2600 oc'ed to 4.2ghz and it bottlenecks my 980ti by 20-30% in some cpu heavy games.

Just saying, if you want a high refresh gaming setup or use high end gpu's, amd is not the way forward. Unless their 7nm increases IPC by 20-30% as well as hitting 5 ghz im probably gonna switch back to intel.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

2600 with an overclock will bottleneck less than anything intel offers for the same money. We will have to wait to see what 7nm offers.

 

[WildCard999]

But what will its single thread performance be? I currently have an R5 2600 oc'ed to 4.2ghz and it bottlenecks my 980ti by 20-30% in some cpu heavy games.

Just saying, if you want a high refresh gaming setup or use high end gpu's, amd is not the way forward. Unless their 7nm increases IPC by 20-30% as well as hitting 5 ghz im probably gonna switch back to intel.

At what resolution?

 

[daylightriot]

At what resolution?

1080p.

 

[daylightriot]

2600 with an overclock will bottleneck less than anything intel offers for the same money. We will have to wait to see what 7nm offers.

actually, according to my research a 7350k outperforms my r5 2600 in cpu heavy games. all except ashes of the benchmark. they are similarly priced in my neck of the woods

 

[WildCard999]

1080p.

Ah ok, then the 20-30% makes sense. If you used DSR @2X or moved up to a 1440P panel then you'd be able to get rid of it.

 

[daylightriot]

Ah ok, then the 20-30% makes sense. If you used DSR @2X or moved up to a 1440P panel then you'd be able to get rid of it.

true but with the dsr option my fps would drop. changing to 1440p resolution keeps my current fps at roughly the same im seeing in 1080p. from what i've read it seems that only in 4k would cpu bottlenecking cease to be an issue altogether but the price of a 'true' 4k setup right now is mind boggling. by true i mean 4k, 60fps ultra/very high. And i wouldnt want to use sli or crossfire due to the micro stutter issues. I'd guess that in 3-5 years a 4k setup would be feasible but for now i want to game high fps 1080p high ultra settings on AAA titles.