Which GPU for 300w and 25 cm/10 inch of space?

[Dionykn]

I have a Dell 3847 and I want to upgrade my PC with a GPU, but i only have 300W PSU and 25 cm/10 inch of space in my case. Which card is my way to go at a reasonable price? (€100-250)

I have been looking at Nvidia's 750ti, but it's not powerfull enough to my liking.
I have also looked at the r9 280x from AMD and a 650W PSU from Sharkoon but the card is to big for my pc.

Is there anything you guys could recommend or should i just upgrade my case or psu?
thx in advance

 

[Josese]

Has it got PCie 3.0 16x?

 

[delellod123]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127772

 

[DerpSheep89]

The above answer is good, but if you don't want to spend $260 then: http://www.ncix.com/detail/evga-geforce-gtx-750ti-2gb-cf-94331-1286.htm?affiliateid=7474144 (In Canada) or http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=94331&vpn=02G-P4-3751-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1286 (In USA)

 

[Dionykn]

Has it got PCie 3.0 16x?

Yes it does

 

[Dionykn]

I'll take a look at the ones above, thx

Maybe this is an option:
ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5

Also is a gtx 760 runnable on 300w?

 

[Eggz]

The 750 ti is a really good card. In the most demanding games, running them at low is barely noticeable compared to ultra - for several games at least. Of course some games do make the difference very apparent (e.g. COD Ghost), but the 750 ti will play better in most cases than new consoles while giving you better frame rates (and thereby smoother gameplay than a console).

Given that I have both a 750 ti and a 780 ti, I can say from experience that the difference in graphical fidelity at an acceptable frame rate (at 1080p) is not very much. Yes there is a huge difference in raw processing power between the two cards, but certain graphical settings require much more processing power than is justified by the marginal improvement in fidelity. One example that comes to mind is Far Cry 3. Even though it's a 2012 game, it will get the 780 ti working as hard as it can to maintain 60 fps at 1080p when all the bells and whistles are cranked up. But if I turn things down to a level where the 750 ti give the same frames, I am seriously hard pressed to tell the difference. It gets to the point where I'm not playing the game, but instead I am making very deliberate moves to spot graphical difference (e.g. watching the gun pass over water, rock, foliage, etc. rather than completing missions or killing enemies). When I'm playing the game (i.e. focusing on what I am supposed to be doing), the 750 ti and 780 ti give nearly identical images at roughly the same frame rate. That's saying a lot given that I spent $750 on the big card but $150 on the small one.

That isn't to say that the 750 ti is nearly as fast as the 780 ti - not at all. It's just that, past a certain level of detail, your processors will work very hard to make tiny levels of improvement, so that processing power gets 95% wasted. But getting to your choice between the 760 and 750 ti . . .

Is the 760 faster? Yes, of course. But I don't think you should expect a giant level of fidelity (or graphical quality) at acceptable frames in 1080p games compared to the 750 ti. If the extra $100 matters to you, then go for the 750 ti. But go for the 760 if you don't really care about the $100 extra. You'll get some improved capability, and whether the small benefit is worth it to you will entirely depend on what it feels like to part with an additional $100.

 

[Dionykn]

The 750 ti is a really good card. In the most demanding games, running them at low is barely noticeable compared to ultra - for several games at least. Of course some games do make the difference very apparent (e.g. COD Ghost), but the 750 ti will play better in most cases than new consoles while giving you better frame rates (and thereby smoother gameplay than a console).

Given that I have both a 750 ti and a 780 ti, I can say from experience that the difference in graphical fidelity at an acceptable frame rate (at 1080p) is not very much. Yes there is a huge difference in raw processing power between the two cards, but certain graphical settings require much more processing power than is justified by the marginal improvement in fidelity. One example that comes to mind is Far Cry 3. Even though it's a 2012 game, it will get the 780 ti working as hard as it can to maintain 60 fps at 1080p when all the bells and whistles are cranked up. But if I turn things down to a level where the 750 ti give the same frames, I am seriously hard pressed to tell the difference. It gets to the point where I'm not playing the game, but instead I am making very deliberate moves to spot graphical difference (e.g. watching the gun pass over water, rock, foliage, etc. rather than completing missions or killing enemies). When I'm playing the game (i.e. focusing on what I am supposed to be doing), the 750 ti and 780 ti give nearly identical images at roughly the same frame rate. That's saying a lot given that I spent $750 on the big card but $150 on the small one.

That isn't to say that the 750 ti is nearly as fast as the 780 ti - not at all. It's just that, past a certain level of detail, your processors will work very hard to make tiny levels of improvement, so that processing power gets 95% wasted. But getting to your choice between the 760 and 750 ti . . .

Is the 760 faster? Yes, of course. But I don't think you should expect a giant level of fidelity (or graphical quality) at acceptable frames in 1080p games compared to the 750 ti. If the extra $100 matters to you, then go for the 750 ti. But go for the 760 if you don't really care about the $100 extra. You'll get some improved capability, and whether the small benefit is worth it to you will entirely depend on what it feels like to part with an additional $100.

Allright thanku, but i have a question: is a gtx 760 compatible with a 300w psu, of do i really need to upgrade my psu to something like 650w?

 

[Eggz]

I think you'll be able to run the 750 ti but not the 760 on a 300 watt psu. Looking at your Dell 3847 at the following link, it seems that the only power hungry component is the CPU. RAM, drives, and other things might add up to another 75 watts. Intel says your CPU's TDW is only 54 watts: http://ark.intel.com/products/77480/Intel-Core-i3-4130-Processor-3M-Cache-3_40-GHz

So assuming your CPU can hit 65 watts (unlikely), and everything else is 75 watts (also a high estimation), that means you're using 140 watts max. Let's round that up to 150. The GTX 750 ti is a 75 watt card, so that would put you up to 225 - theoretically. In order to hit that wattage, you'd have to somehow figure a way to max out every piece of equipment in your system at the same time. That never happens unless you download special software for each piece and run them all at the same time. Even then, though, you'd be under the 300 watt load potential of your PSU.

The GTX 760 can run up to 170 watts, which could put you over the top: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications

The PSU in there now might be able to run it, but you'd likely run into problems. So you'd have to figure in the cost of a power supply in addition to the cost of the card on that move. Given that the Dell you have is a low power machine anyway, it seems like the 750 ti would be a very good pairing for it. But the PSU upgrade with the 760 would also be good. Best of luck in your decision. I think you should have most of the info you need to decide.

 

[Dionykn]

I think you'll be able to run the 750 ti but not the 760 on a 300 watt psu. Looking at your Dell 3847 at the following link, it seems that the only power hungry component is the CPU. RAM, drives, and other things might add up to another 75 watts. Intel says your CPU's TDW is only 54 watts: http://ark.intel.com/products/77480/Intel-Core-i3-4130-Processor-3M-Cache-3_40-GHz

So assuming your CPU can hit 65 watts (unlikely), and everything else is 75 watts (also a high estimation), that means you're using 140 watts max. Let's round that up to 150. The GTX 750 ti is a 75 watt card, so that would put you up to 225 - theoretically. In order to hit that wattage, you'd have to somehow figure a way to max out every piece of equipment in your system at the same time. That never happens unless you download special software for each piece and run them all at the same time. Even then, though, you'd be under the 300 watt load potential of your PSU.

The GTX 760 can run up to 170 watts, which could put you over the top: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications

The PSU in there now might be able to run it, but you'd likely run into problems. So you'd have to figure in the cost of a power supply in addition to the cost of the card on that move. Given that the Dell you have is a low power machine anyway, it seems like the 750 ti would be a very good pairing for it. But the PSU upgrade with the 760 would also be good. Best of luck in your decision. I think you should have most of the info you need to decide.

Thank you! I think so too.
But one last question: would the 750ti be good enough for playing Low-end games like minecraft (with shaders and high res texture packs) and playing all single player games (campaigns of cod, bf, farcry) on at least high? (i could play around and tweak my video settings)

Thanks every one in advance!

 

[jaguarskx]

The GTX 750 Ti is overkill for Minecraft.

Read the following review of the GTX 750 Ti. Unless otherwise indicated,all games benchmarks are using the highest graphic settings available ("uber" "ultra", "very high", whatever name the developers use) and 4x anti-aliasing is used.

Note that an Intel Core i7-4770K @ 4.2 GHz is used in the test rig so it is possible that a CPU demanding game will have lower FPS on a PC with a less powerful CPU.

With a peak power consumption of only 57w it should be capable of running with any average quality 300w PSU.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/

 

[Eggz]

I could plug my display into the 750 ti and run COD Ghost to see what happens. I've done that with Titanfall, and it ran great! That and Borderlands 2 only had to turn down a couple minor things to play well at 1080p. Farcry 3 was similar. That's about all I've tested with it. I don't have minecraft, but the card does have 2BG of VRAM, which is a good amount. I'll plug it in now and see what happens in Ghost. Let me know if there is another game I have to test while I have it up and running.

Just a little disclaimer, though, you might have to factor in potential bottlenecks elsewhere. My CPU is very fast and has a lot of RAM, and pretty much everything around it is high-end. I don't think it will effect gaming all THAT much, but it's something to keep in mind.

 

[Dionykn]

@Eggz yeah i know, i saw your specs, dahum. Uhm Just the latest games i guess: nfs rivals, bf4, sniper elite 3, titanfall. Something like that.

Also multiplayer is more depending on your cpu right? Because of all the different things happening.

@Jaguarskx i know, my HD 4400 runs it at ~50fps. But with shaders is a whole different story. It struggles opening the world and than bugs out and freezes.

 

[Dionykn]

All right, i guess the gtx 750ti is the way to go. De you guys have any recommandations? Brands, models, etc. Thanks

 

[jaguarskx]

I usually recommend Asus or EVGA for nVidia cards. Here's one for each; Asus for $140 after rebate and EVGA for $130 after rebate. The EVGA version is also overclocked; however the Asus has 2 fans which potentially means better cooling.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121855&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-121-855-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-487-024-_-Product

 

[Eggz]

I think the EVGA Superclocked 750 ti is the best one. Don't get the non-ti version. It's slow. Whatever you get, go for the ti version. Factory overclocked is good. Asus makes a good one also, but the EVGA is really small and a good price. There's a promotion for the EVGA Superclocked edition of the 750 ti right now at NewEgg to get the card for only $129 - great deal!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

But if you want to see what other options of the 750 ti are available, take a look at the complete list from PC Part Picker here:

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=164&r=2048&f=1

 

[Dionykn]

I usually recommend Asus or EVGA for nVidia cards. Here's one for each; Asus for $140 after rebate and EVGA for $130 after rebate. The EVGA version is also overclocked; however the Asus has 2 fans which potentially means better cooling.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121855&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-121-855-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-487-024-_-Product

Thx for your reply, I'll keep that in mind.

Also, could you guys have a look at this link: http://
These are the cards with my local prices (sorry but the site is in dutch, but i figure that the names are the same. THX

 

[Eggz]

The best deal one on that list if the EVGA FTW version. If you have room for it and an available 6-pin power connector in your computer, then get that. It's the most powerful version, but for some reason it's actually cheaper than the others!

http://www.alternate.nl/EVGA/GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-FTW-(02G-P4-3757-KR)-grafische-kaart/html/product/1123689?tk=7&lk=9377

 

[Dionykn]

Well... thats is the problem, i dont think i have. Can i get it without buying a new psu? I will put a photo of my pc in the post:

 

[Eggz]

There's no picture of the cable connectors coming from your power supply in your post.

Look for either one of these

You can see on the right where it would plug into the card

 

[Dionykn]

There's no picture of the cable connectors coming from your power supply in your post.

Look for either one of these

You can see on the right where it would plug into the card

I don't have those, is there something like an adapter for it?
I have been looking for it, this is what i found:
http://
Because i do have an unused Sata power supply

 

[DerpSheep89]

That adapter will probably be fine, but it ,ight not supply enough power. In that case you want a dual-molex to 6 pin PCI adapter. Or just get the eVGA GTx 750 Ti SC or no SC.

 

[Dionykn]

You could buy a dual-molex to 6 pin PCI adapter if you want or, just get the eVGA GTx 750 Ti SC or no SC.

I don't think i have molex either

 

[Eggz]

I don't think i have molex either

Take a picture and post what you have that is not currently in use. We'll tell you what it is, and then you can convert from that.

 

[Dionykn]

I don't think i have molex either

Take a picture and post what you have that is not currently in use. We'll tell you what it is, and then you can convert from that.

This is the only connector which is not in use, it is SATA am i right? I guess my psu is very limited when it comes to connection. I hope you guys can figure something out.