Question Which GPU is best for my PC?

[Glyph090]

I want to upgrade my GPU(even though my PC is almost irellevant today). I need to know if the new configuration will run properly, run games smooth at 144hz and handle UE5.
I can afford RTX 3060/RTX 3060 ti/RX 6700xt. These GPUs might be too much for my rig but, I'm hoping that by the time I upgrade the rest they don't become irrelevant. Also I hope there are not any incompatibilty issues (like for the RX 6700xt, 650W might not be enough, I'm not sure).
My PC specs are:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600x Stock cooler
MOBO: ASUS ASRock B450MDS3H v2
RAM: 16GB 2x8GB
GPU: GTX 1050 2GB low profile
PSU: 650W
My casing has a really bad airflow

These 3 GPUs are just refrences for price.
Is bottlenecking a really big problem?
I think my CPU is still... decent.
Should I buy one and sell it when I need to upgrade the rest?

 

[DSzymborski]

What's the exact model of 650W PSU? 650W PSUs range in quality from ones I'd trust to power everything but the most powerful 30 series cards to 650W PSUs that are fake 300W PSUs that I wouldn't trust enough to connect them to a ham sandwich.

 

[Glyph090]

What's the exact model of 650W PSU? 650W PSUs range in quality from ones I'd trust to power everything but the most powerful 30 series cards to 650W PSUs that are fake 300W PSUs that I wouldn't trust enough to connect them to a ham sandwich.

I have an NJOY TITAN series 80 plus Bronze PSU connected to my sandwich maker.

 

[logainofhades]

That needs replaced before it sets your sandwich maker on fire. You need to start with a higher quality unit. This can give you an idea, of GPU scaling for your CPU, compared to newer chips.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlfwXqODqp4

 

[bignastyid]

I have an NJOY TITAN series 80 plus Bronze PSU connected to my sandwich maker.

Not actually a 650w PSU by modern standards as it's subpar 12v rails are only rated for 458w. So more like a low quality 450w PSU. The 80 plus rating is also a fake as NJoy is not on clearesults(people whom do 80 plus) manufactures list.

 

[Glyph090]

That needs replaced before it sets your sandwich maker on fire. You need to start with a higher quality unit. This can give you an idea, of GPU scaling for your CPU, compared to newer chips.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlfwXqODqp4

So, if I would get a 3060 my sandwich maker will burn my sandwiches.
I want to spend as little cash as possible on my PC. I don't want unnecessary upgrades and would rather get a whole new PC.
If my PSU is that bad, I think I would barely have money to buy a new one and a 3060.
A good PSU for the 3060 should be around $100 right? Maybe a bit less

 

[bignastyid]

So, if I would get a 3060 my sandwich maker will burn my sandwiches.
I want to spend as little cash as possible on my PC. I don't want unnecessary upgrades and would rather get a whole new PC.
If my PSU is that bad, I think I would barely have money to buy a new one and a 3060.

While an actual fire is worst case. Most likely the system will just be unstable, have lockups, hitches, shutdowns and it could end up damaging some to all the other components in the system. A cheap psu can get expensive in a hurry. If money is tight start with the PSU upgrade then get a GPU. You may not even have to wait to long with the way gpu price have been dropping.

 

[Glyph090]

While an actual fire is worst case. Most likely the system will just be unstable, have lockups, hitches, shutdowns and it could end up damaging some to all the other components in the system. A cheap psu can get expensive in a hurry. If money is tight start with the PSU upgrade then get a GPU. You may not even have to wait to long with the way gpu price have been dropping.

What's a good PSU for these cards?

 

[bignastyid]

Something like a 550w XPG core reactor, Corsair TXm, RM or RMx or a Superflower Leadex III. A Corsair CX would likely be ok for a 3060 but I'd probably go with the 650w version of that model.

 

[Glyph090]

Something like a 550w XPG core reactor, Corsair TXm, RM or RMx or a Superflower Leadex III. A Corsair CX would likely be ok for a 3060 but I'd probably go with the 650w version of that model.

I'll consider buying a better PSU, and would probably stick to the 3060. Hopefully the prices are still dropping. Thanks for your advice!

 

[DSzymborski]

Yeah, definitely one the bad side. nJoy is particularly notorious for a few reasons. They sell dirt-cheap PSUs with sub-dirt parts and topologies that were suitable for office PCs of 25 years ago. Now, lots of companies do that, especially in non-Western countries, but nJoy took it quite a bit farther. After their parent company (DAI-TECH) got a couple 80 Plus badges (a plain 80 Plus 650W and a Silver-rated 700W), they decided to celebrate the occasion by giving themselves more 80 Plus badges. All those Bronzes you see on their PSUs made in the 2018-2019 range? Fraud. When they were caught doing it, they redesigned the 80 Plus logo into a fake yellow "Meets 80 Plus" logo to try and trick people into thinking it is actually 80 Plus rated.

DAI-TECH then takes these very cheaply made, counterfeit PSUs, and dumps them on countries in SE Europe to prey on consumers in countries where consumer electronics are harder to get and more expensive and average incomes are lower. nJoy makers should be in jail, not stealing from people in Romania.

 

[logainofhades]

I'll consider buying a better PSU, and would probably stick to the 3060. Hopefully the prices are still dropping. Thanks for your advice!

High quality unit, for under $100.

PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $74.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-27 13:48 EDT-0400

The 750w is only a few dollars more, and would give you a bit more upgrade headroom.
PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ EVGA)
Total: $89.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-27 13:49 EDT-0400

 

[Glyph090]

High quality unit, for under $100.

PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $74.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-27 13:48 EDT-0400

The 750w is only a few dollars more, and would give you a bit more upgrade headroom.
PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ EVGA)
Total: $89.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-27 13:49 EDT-0400

These two seem like really good options, unfortunately the prices are pumped up in my country. The EVGA PSU Supernaova 650W GT 80 Plus Gold is $105(this is the cheapest, the rest are like $125). Are there any other options? I just need it to do the job for my current configuration with a 3060 added. I'm planning on ditching this computer at some point and get a new one with the latest configuration.

 

[Glyph090]

Yeah, definitely one the bad side. nJoy is particularly notorious for a few reasons. They sell dirt-cheap PSUs with sub-dirt parts and topologies that were suitable for office PCs of 25 years ago. Now, lots of companies do that, especially in non-Western countries, but nJoy took it quite a bit farther. After their parent company (DAI-TECH) got a couple 80 Plus badges (a plain 80 Plus 650W and a Silver-rated 700W), they decided to celebrate the occasion by giving themselves more 80 Plus badges. All those Bronzes you see on their PSUs made in the 2018-2019 range? Fraud. When they were caught doing it, they redesigned the 80 Plus logo into a fake yellow "Meets 80 Plus" logo to try and trick people into thinking it is actually 80 Plus rated.

DAI-TECH then takes these very cheaply made, counterfeit PSUs, and dumps them on countries in SE Europe to prey on consumers in countries where consumer electronics are harder to get and more expensive and average incomes are lower. nJoy makers should be in jail, not stealing from people in Romania.

Yeah... I built this PC myself in 2018 and didn't knew anything about the importance of the PSU. I knew it wasn't that good since it was so cheap compared to the others from known companies. But it fitted right in my budget. It also didn't blew up my PC for 4 years so I guess it was ok. And I certainly did not notice the logo

 

[DSzymborski]

These two seem like really good options, unfortunately the prices are pumped up in my country. The EVGA PSU Supernaova 650W GT 80 Plus Gold is $105(this is the cheapest, the rest are like $125). Are there any other options? I just need it to do the job for my current configuration with a 3060 added. I'm planning on ditching this computer at some point and get a new one with the latest configuration.

Well, without knowing the country, it's hard to track down to see if there's an exact PSU that is suitable and less expensive. Guessing that you live in either Romania or a Balkan country given the PSU, I'd say you're not likely to find much cheaper than that due to the higher prices you unfortunately have to pay.

A proper PSU is highly recommended. I wouldn't even power up a 3060 on the current PSU and for long-term life and stability, there's not a ton of flexibility with quality. A suitable PSU for the specs of a PC is the most important part of the PC.

If you absolutely cannot get a 3060 and a quality PSU, than a 3050 or an RX 6600 and a good budget PSU -- which means something like a modern Corsair CX or EVGA GQ, not the current one in a million years -- is a better option.

 

[Glyph090]

Well, without knowing the country, it's hard to track down to see if there's an exact PSU that is suitable and less expensive. Guessing that you live in either Romania or a Balkan country given the PSU, I'd say you're not likely to find much cheaper than that due to the higher prices you unfortunately have to pay.

A proper PSU is highly recommended. I wouldn't even power up a 3060 on the current PSU and for long-term life and stability, there's not a ton of flexibility with quality. A suitable PSU for the specs of a PC is the most important part of the PC.

If you absolutely cannot get a 3060 and a quality PSU, than a 3050 or an RX 6600 and a good budget PSU -- which means something like a modern Corsair CX or EVGA GQ, not the current one in a million years -- is a better option.

So a CORSAIR TX650M for $76 would not be worth it, and I'm better off buying the EVGA. Prices for PC components are unfortunately a bit higher in Romania.

 

[Glyph090]

Well, without knowing the country, it's hard to track down to see if there's an exact PSU that is suitable and less expensive. Guessing that you live in either Romania or a Balkan country given the PSU, I'd say you're not likely to find much cheaper than that due to the higher prices you unfortunately have to pay.

A proper PSU is highly recommended. I wouldn't even power up a 3060 on the current PSU and for long-term life and stability, there's not a ton of flexibility with quality. A suitable PSU for the specs of a PC is the most important part of the PC.

If you absolutely cannot get a 3060 and a quality PSU, than a 3050 or an RX 6600 and a good budget PSU -- which means something like a modern Corsair CX or EVGA GQ, not the current one in a million years -- is a better option.

Assuming I get the EVGA PSU, what type of 3060 should I look for? The MSI GEFORCE RTX 3060 VENTUS 3X is affordable, but is it any good? Are there better variants?

 

[logainofhades]

So a CORSAIR TX650M for $76 would not be worth it, and I'm better off buying the EVGA. Prices for PC components are unfortunately a bit higher in Romania.

The TX650m isn't a terrible PSU. The CX650m is often a good budget choice. I do not know what your pricing looks like, but you also may want to consider an RX 6600 or 6600xt, over that 3060. Recently in the US, AMD has had a better price/performance ratio going on. RDNA2 also doesn't have the severe power spikes that RTX 30 series has.

 

[RodroX]

Change your PSU, get a new GPU, and you will most likely see an improvement in image quality and FPS, but......

As it was mention already the Ryzen 5 1600X will limit the performance you may get with the new hardware.

About GPU brand, I would get the one that its from a well known brand (like MSI, Asus, EVGa among others), that it has a competent price and that it gives you the best warranty.

Also keep in mind in some places around the glove the RX 6600 is usually cheaper than the RTX 3060 while giving around the same performance at 1080p. The main problem of the Radeon card is the ray tracing performanc,e but at this level of gpus I would skip ray tracing.

 

[logainofhades]

Best on what market? None of those are current gen models.

 

[Glyph090]

Ok, so when it comes to PSUs it's just absurd... The pricing of that EVGA Supernova 650W GT 80 plus gold is actually lower than the CX650M so I'm guessing I'll stick with that.
When it comes to GPUs, I was pleased to see the pricing and performance of the rx 6600. I searched for an rx 6600xt as well and found very few, with the same price as the 3060.
I have found an rx 6600xt that is the same price as the rx6600. I'm not sure if it's worth it so you guys tell me.
Sapphire Radeon RX6600 PULSE
or
Asrock RX6600XT CLI 8G

Both are around $362

 

[Glyph090]

Also I'm not looking for anything more than gaming at 1080p, but the most important is handling Unreal Engine 5.

 

[Glyph090]

Nevermind, that price was a scam... it led me to a diffrent GPU wtih the same price. The actual price of that asrock GPU is $50 more