Which GTX 780 versions are comparable to a stock 780 ti?

[Arishok N7]

I've done a little research and I've only been able to find so much. I know an OC'ed 780 is not far behind the stock 780 ti. But what about the other 780 versions? I'm not a fan of OC'ing and typically just keep the card stock out of the box. What are some of the top 780's out there?

 

[13thmonkey]

None of them really, but the higher clocks out of the box the better, they are all exactly the same chip. The 780ti has about 25% more cores and so you need a 25% OC to match it.

However the 780/780ti is now a generation old, why are you even considering it?

 

[Arishok N7]

None of them really, but the higher clocks out of the box the better, they are all exactly the same chip. The 780ti has about 25% more cores and so you need a 25% OC to match it.

However the 780/780ti is now a generation old, why are you even considering it?

I don't know. Maybe because you can get them for really good prices?

 

[13thmonkey]

Where from? and how good is really good considering that:
They are not DX12 compliant
They use a lot of power compared to 900's
A 970 beats it - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1493?vs=1595

if you were getting a second to SLI with an existing one, then maybe, but buying new now, unless around the £200/$200 mark I wouldn't bother you'll regret it in 6-12 months.

 

[azzazel_99]

since when is kepler not direct x 12 compliant? To my knowledge the kepler series is 100% compatible with direct x 12?

 

[Arishok N7]

since when is kepler not direct x 12 compliant? To my knowledge the kepler series is 100% compatible with direct x 12?

I was confused by that as well. I don't remember ever reading it wasn't.

 

[azzazel_99]

as a matter of fact directX 12 went back as far as the 400 series chips. In fact tomshardware is the one that posted the interview about it where they asked the devs at nvidia about it.

 

[Arishok N7]

as a matter of fact directX 12 went back as far as the 400 series chips. In fact tomshardware is the one that posted the interview about it where they asked the devs at nvidia about it.

I saw a list on all the directX 12 compatible cards. I don't remember the website. But there was a lot.

 

[13thmonkey]

Well given that they are a shrink of the 600's and there was no DX12 at that point you wouldn't read that they weren't.

Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series

Microsoft DirectX support[edit]

NVIDIA Kepler GPUs of the GeForce 700 series fully support DirectX 11.0.

NVIDIA will partially support the DX12 API on all the DX11-class GPUs it has shipped; these belong to the Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectural families.[1]

Note partially.

Nvidia's site http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/technology/dx12/supported-gpus
Only the 710 is listed, not even the 750ti (i.e. Maxwell 1).

Specification for 750ti, DX 11.2 - http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications

Specification for 780ti, DX 11 - http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780-ti/specifications

That's why I think this, It is possible that these have never been updated.

 

[azzazel_99]

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dx12/supported-gpus?field_gpu_type_value=All&page=1

Now yes there are going to be some compute stuff that 700 series and older cards might not be able to take full advantage of but for gaming? I've not heard of anything making a difference one way or another.

 

[azzazel_99]

The US site which i linked clearly shows all the cards being supported. 5 pages worth going back to as i stated the 400 series of cards.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dx12/supported-gpus?field_gpu_type_value=All&page=1

 

[13thmonkey]

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dx12/supported-gpus?field_gpu_type_value=All&page=1

Now yes there are going to be some compute stuff that 700 series and older cards might not be able to take full advantage of but for gaming? I've not heard of anything making a difference one way or another.

The reason you've not heard of it making a difference is that nothing uses it yet as DX12 has, as you know, only been out a short while.

So it looks like they are sloppy with their page updating, there are levels of support however, and without hardware features you may lose on performance.

I still stand by the question,

Where from? and how good is really good considering that:

If you are talking about 10% less than the price of a 970 for a 780, I wouldn't bite, I think it'd have to be better than 25% cheaper than a 970, before I'd consider a 780.

 

[azzazel_99]

oh i agree i would get a 970 before a 780 but if you were getting one for $200 i would get a 780. But for $300 a 970 is a better buy.

 

[13thmonkey]

oh i agree i would get a 970 before a 780 but if you were getting one for $200 i would get a 780. But for $300 a 970 is a better buy.

So the question to the op is, what price?

 

[azzazel_99]

$260 is all i could find http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GTX780-SuperClocked-03G-P4-2784-KR/dp/B00CUIVSNS


and for $40 more you can get a 970.......http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487136&cm_re=gtx970-_-14-487-136-_-Product

 

[Arishok N7]

$260 is all i could find http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GTX780-SuperClocked-03G-P4-2784-KR/dp/B00CUIVSNS


and for $40 more you can get a 970.......http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487136&cm_re=gtx970-_-14-487-136-_-Product

They show up on Ebay cheaper from time to time.

 

[azzazel_99]

yea but so do 970's and those perform significantly better imo. Heck im trying to sell my 780ti's to snatch a couple 970's to sli with.

 

[13thmonkey]

I know someone who'll buy them ^^

 

[azzazel_99]

Oh yea? Lol

 

[Arishok N7]

780 ti Classified are good cards. Why are you "upgrading"?

 

[azzazel_99]

i really have no reason lol. I have the classified editions from evga. They are fantastic cards.

 

[Arishok N7]

I would consider it a downgrade honestly. The 780 ti classified is the more powerful card.

 

[azzazel_99]

meh they traded blows back and forth in most games. It would more or less be a wash

 

[Arishok N7]

From the benchmarks Ive seen. A normal 780 ti trades with the 970. It would take an OC'ed 970 to compete with the Classified.

 

[azzazel_99]

well the sc evga 970 was only a few points behind a overclocked reference style 780ti. My card runs at 1200mhz core clock so realistically the only way a 970 would actually beat either of my 780ti's would be if it was under water and running around 1500mhz which im not sure if they can do that stable. I dunno i didnt really need to upgrade my 2500k either running it at 4.4ghz but this 6700k was just calling my name lol