[SOLVED] Which HDD should I buy for backups and archiving?

[Konskoo]

I want to buy HDD and External Hard Drive Enclosure. I will connect it to computer via USB. I will write on this HDD system backups, current sound work files backups, sound work files archive. I run Windows 10 Home 64-bit.

HDD with what rotation speed and what size of cache should I buy for this?

 

[USAFRet]

you wont find it because no one uses cheap 2.5 entry level HDD in servers .. but they are fragile and they fail faster .. All My notebooks drives failed after some years , USB drives as well .. unlike 3.5 inch in my desktops and NAS stations.

I'm just saying.....you made the statement. Is there any data to back that up?
"cheap non enterprise 2.5 inch drives are not reliable for backup "

No one said anything about "servers".



And counterpoint to your "All My notebooks drives failed after some years ".
I've had exactly ONE 2.5" laptop drive fail. Ever.

 

[nofanneeded]

I'm just saying.....you made the statement. Is there any data to back that up?
"cheap non enterprise 2.5 inch drives are not reliable for backup "

outside my personal 30 years experience , I dont have data no . and my experience is better than any data , I saw it with my eyes.

You dont want to take it , fine , I am just sharing my experience with others.

No one said anything about "servers".

Most research about HDD fail rate are done by server usere.

And counterpoint to your "All My notebooks drives failed after some years ".
I've had exactly ONE 2.5" laptop drive fail. Ever.

This is called "you were lucky" ..

 

[USAFRet]

I'm not saying I necessarily disagree.
"2.5" drives are unreliable" A blanket statement should generally be supported with some evidence.


https://serverfault.com/questions/244629/is-there-a-reliability-difference-between-2-5-and-3-5-hdds

(2006, Fujitsu)
"2.5” HDDs have lower power and offer improved MTBF and life. "
https://www.fujitsu.com/downloads/COMP/fcpa/hdd/sata-mobile-ext-duty_wp.pdf

https://linustechtips.com/topic/808147-35-or-25-hard-drive-which-is-more-robust/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/7kywk8/25_mechanical_hdd_vs_35_hdd_for_desktop_rigs/

 

[USAFRet]

This is called "you were lucky" ..

Maybe you were "unlucky".

 

[Konskoo]

So maybe NAS is the overkill this situation? They look interesting but feel it beyond my needs but maybe fit yours.

@HappyTrails, thank you. I think about different variants. Yes, NAS is one of the variants. Right now I think about variant without NAS. I think about HDD and External Hard Drive Enclosure.

 

[Konskoo]

@nofanneeded, does shingled magnetic recording (SMR) related to rotation speed and size of cache?

 

[Konskoo]

@USAFRet, @chrisanders466, @mdd1963, @SkyNetRising, why 3.5" HDDs are still used today? 2.5" HDDs don't need power supply. Why 2.5 "HDDs didn't supplant 3.5" HDDs? Maybe 3.5" HDDs have any advantages, despite the need for a power supply?

 

[USAFRet]

@USAFRet, @chrisanders466, @mdd1963, @SkyNetRising, why 3.5" HDDs are still used today? 2.5" HDDs don't need power supply. Why 2.5 "HDDs didn't supplant 3.5" HDDs? Maybe 3.5" HDDs have any advantages, despite the need for a power supply?

Capacity.
Compatibility in standard desktop cases.
Power is not a concern in a desktop.

3.5" drives need 5v and 12v.
Most 2.5" HDD and all SSD only need the 5v.

 

[Konskoo]

Capacity.
Compatibility in standard desktop cases.
Power is not a concern in a desktop.

3.5" drives need 5v and 12v.
Most 2.5" HDD and all SSD only need the 5v.

@USAFRet, thank you. I took into attention.

When HDD used as external, with External Hard Drive Enclosure, 2.5" HDDs don't need power supply. Why 2.5 "HDDs didn't supplant 3.5" HDDs?

 

[USAFRet]

When HDD used as external, with External Hard Drive Enclosure, 2.5" HDDs don't need power supply. Why 2.5 "HDDs didn't supplant 3.5" HDDs?

Because thee is no need for the 2.5" format HDD to completely replace 3.5" HDD. There is room in the market for both.

 

[Konskoo]

Because thee is no need for the 2.5" format HDD to completely replace 3.5" HDD. There is room in the market for both.

@USAFRet, thank you. I took into consideration.

When HDD with archive not in External Hard Drive Enclosure or HDD Docking Station how do you store HDD? Do you use hard protection case? ABS plastic? Do you use protection pack, protection bag? Antistatic?

 

[USAFRet]

@USAFRet, thank you. I took into consideration.

When HDD with archive not in External Hard Drive Enclosure or HDD Docking Station how do you store HDD? Do you use hard protection case? ABS plastic? Do you use protection pack, protection bag? Antistatic?

My spinning drives are in or attached to my NAS box. In the NAS, or in 2 different 4 bay enclosures.
I have an "offsite" drive in case of extreme need (think zombies) that sits in a desk drawer at work. No ABS, no anti static...just sitting in the drawer.

I have a toaster style docking station here for temporary use.

 

[Konskoo]

My spinning drives are in or attached to my NAS box. In the NAS, or in 2 different 4 bay enclosures.
I have an "offsite" drive in case of extreme need (think zombies) that sits in a desk drawer at work. No ABS, no anti static...just sitting in the drawer.

I have a toaster style docking station here for temporary use.

@USAFRet, thank you. I took into attention.

Which HDD should I buy for backups and archiving? Toshiba, HGST, Western Digital, Samsung, Seagate? Else?

 

[Konskoo]

If you want best of the best, then get WD/HGST Helio seal models. Probably too good/expensive for just backup/archive purposes.

@SkyNetRising, for variants 1 TB, 2 TB. These HDDs?

WD_BLACK, 3.5", 1 TB, 7200 rpm, Cache Size 64 MB, WD1003FZEX

https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-desktop-sata-hdd#WD1003FZEX

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WD Red NAS Hard Drive, 3.5", 2 TB, 5400 rpm, Cache Size 256 MB, WD20EFAX

https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-red-sata-hdd#WD20EFAX

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HGST became part of Western Digital? HDDs name Ultrastar? This? https://www.westerndigital.com/products/data-center-platforms/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series-hdd

Capacity 18TB/16TB.

Does HGST 1 TB producing now?