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"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> But is the cost of the printer really $100.00 or is it more like $50.00?
>
> Valid point... one could
>
> 1. Just buy a head $60ish
> 2. just buy a printer, toss the old printer $100ish +/- $20 for the
> ip4000
> 3. Buy printer, sell OEM ink $8.00 each would be fair...$80ish +/-
> $20 Toss old printer
> 4. Buy printer, sell OEM ink and old printer. $8/each fair or $40 and
> $35 in misc parts. $50ish to you +/- $20
>
> This is assuming that head clogging is an issue... which well I haven't
> seen it yet.
>
> Still that was beyond the point of my analysis, which was whether it
> would be a loss if your printer went kauput after the 2nd refill. It's
> close... if we were talking a 6 cart printer I would have little doubt
> depending on the model and cost of replacement. On a 5 printer....
> it's close... but by the 3rd refill your totally home free, you can
> trash that printer, the warranty could be expired, but you saved so
> much it doesn't matter. While I am critical of the userfriendlyness of
> the MIS kit... seriously they should go for some nice caps with
> threaded locks for the blunt needles rather that syrenges... it costs
> less from the get go.
>
> While there are some valid reasons for going OEM... I don't see many
> for the freaking canon who's OEM ink isn't really all that great in
> terms of lightfastness. It's my hope in the future that OEMs will see
> this trend and either lower their prices by a fator of at least 50%, or
> for the price they are asking offer archivial inks.
Zake, the eternal optimist! Both would be nice. I don't foresee Canon
lowering their ink prices because the majority of people who buy inkjet
printers simply buy the same brand ink at their nearby big-box office supply
or computer store. It is, essentially, a captive market for most consumers.
They may work up the nerve to try the aftermarket products these stores
carry, but there isn't much financial incentive as the prices of these
products is anywhere from just a few dollars less to sometimes more costly
than the OEM product. Often, these retail-outlet aftermarket ink carts give
less than satisfactory results and drive the consumer back to OEM inks.
Canon now claims to have more archival inks in their newest printers, but
I'd like to see independant testing before accepting their projection of
print stability.
>
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1123654554.260088.108520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> But is the cost of the printer really $100.00 or is it more like $50.00?
>
> Valid point... one could
>
> 1. Just buy a head $60ish
> 2. just buy a printer, toss the old printer $100ish +/- $20 for the
> ip4000
> 3. Buy printer, sell OEM ink $8.00 each would be fair...$80ish +/-
> $20 Toss old printer
> 4. Buy printer, sell OEM ink and old printer. $8/each fair or $40 and
> $35 in misc parts. $50ish to you +/- $20
>
> This is assuming that head clogging is an issue... which well I haven't
> seen it yet.
>
> Still that was beyond the point of my analysis, which was whether it
> would be a loss if your printer went kauput after the 2nd refill. It's
> close... if we were talking a 6 cart printer I would have little doubt
> depending on the model and cost of replacement. On a 5 printer....
> it's close... but by the 3rd refill your totally home free, you can
> trash that printer, the warranty could be expired, but you saved so
> much it doesn't matter. While I am critical of the userfriendlyness of
> the MIS kit... seriously they should go for some nice caps with
> threaded locks for the blunt needles rather that syrenges... it costs
> less from the get go.
>
> While there are some valid reasons for going OEM... I don't see many
> for the freaking canon who's OEM ink isn't really all that great in
> terms of lightfastness. It's my hope in the future that OEMs will see
> this trend and either lower their prices by a fator of at least 50%, or
> for the price they are asking offer archivial inks.
Zake, the eternal optimist! Both would be nice. I don't foresee Canon
lowering their ink prices because the majority of people who buy inkjet
printers simply buy the same brand ink at their nearby big-box office supply
or computer store. It is, essentially, a captive market for most consumers.
They may work up the nerve to try the aftermarket products these stores
carry, but there isn't much financial incentive as the prices of these
products is anywhere from just a few dollars less to sometimes more costly
than the OEM product. Often, these retail-outlet aftermarket ink carts give
less than satisfactory results and drive the consumer back to OEM inks.
Canon now claims to have more archival inks in their newest printers, but
I'd like to see independant testing before accepting their projection of
print stability.
>
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