Which new bulldozer will you most likley buy???

[badtaylorx]

Well it seems like were getting pretty close to this damn chip coming out finally ......i just wanted to get a feel for which version people want to buy...

i myself am pretty sure that ill opt for the 4170 quad core...... as i dont really see myself needing 8 cores.......i only game and use for multimedia purposes and the 4200mhz stock............thats nice.......the only part that concerns me is the turbo is only 4300mhz......


anyway.....im only interested in hearing from those who are actually considering this purchase........im not looking to start a flame war........just which one you want and why........

thanx
bTx

 

[Sadukar]

Just FYI.. newegg is having 15.00 off on the i5 2500k..so 204.99 out the door with free shipping.

 

[badtaylorx]

Just FYI.. newegg is having 15.00 off on the i5 2500k..so 204.99 out the door with free shipping.

seems like intel is worried.......sandy-E is only a lil better than a 2600K!!!!!!

 

[jimmysmitty]

If you notice I say "I consider" then proceed with my opinion. Because it is my opinion, it's not wrong. Sure the BD module will theortically have better performance than SMT. But I consider it SMT with more umph, and I will expect it as such. This is my take on the process and my expectation. Therefore it's a 4 core, with SMT, as far as I'm concerned.

An AM3+ socket isn't a requirement to drop in a BD chip. I haven't done in depth research but I expect Gigabyte to provide a BIOS update like the other motherboard manufacturers.

Yes I understand that AMD doesn't support BD in AM3 sockets, but with a BIOS update they will operate just fine, just with reduced functionality(which hasn't been addressed yet)

Also I do in fact have a GA-890FXA-UD5 but as stated earlier it's an AM3 board.

I never said you opinion was wrong. Just that SMT and BD modules are nothing alike.

And for your mobo, yes a BIOS update would be all you need. Because its a AM3+ socket. The 990FX and 890FX chipset are the exact same chipset. What matters is the socket and the pin layout. If you had a 890FX chipset mobo that had the original AM3 socket, it would not work as the extra pins needed to run BD are not active.

But as well certain power features of BD may not work.

You made a good choice in mobos, but other people will not be as lucky.

I guess you will find out whenever BD actually comes out. Make sure to let us know. Just hope it does so you don't have to buy a new mobo.

 

[cmcghee358]

So are you saying that the board I bought in August 2010, which is an AM3 socket, was actually an AM3+ socket?

I'm confused...

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Are your socket fittings black Cmc?
My AsRock 890fx deluxe 5 is Black socket and advertised as Am3+, might be worth scoping your board reviews to be certain of what it can/cant do
Moto

 

[cmcghee358]

As far as I recall, ASUS had said a large portion of their AM3 8xx series motherboards would support BD with a BIOS update.

These were all no kidding AM3 sockets.

I expect the same for mine to be honest.

 

[jimmysmitty]

As far as I recall, ASUS had said a large portion of their AM3 8xx series motherboards would support BD with a BIOS update.

These were all no kidding AM3 sockets.

I expect the same for mine to be honest.

From what i read, they did that by actually activating the necessary pins on the socket. Thats what allows the AM3+ compatability BUT there are downsides since it wont support certain power saving technologies andmight not read the thermal sensor properly since the pin layout is going to be somewhat different as will the VRM requirements.

I looked at your mobo on Gigabytes website and they have 2 versions. One has the standard white AM3 socket, the other is the black AM3+ socket.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for the support but there is a good chance if they prepared it, and I wouldn;t be suprised if they did since BD was supposed to be out in Q1 2011 originally.

As I said, best of luck and let us know. I just hope not every person with a AM3 mobo expects BD to work since some chipsets wont support it nor will all AM3 sockets.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

Overpriced? the 2500k is the best cpu on the market for gaming, how is $200 overpriced. They could charge $250-300 and people would still buy it.

 

[vdr369]

An FX-6100 model with six cores, a 3.3GHz clock speed, 14MB of cache, a 95W thermal envelope, and an asking price of $188.32.

Oh yeah, 6 core at below 200$, with bigger cache, higher frequency than i5.

My money is ready for taking AMD, get those chips out!

as you said, I am planing to buy this chip, it looks very cool to me. but i will buy it after benchmarks release.

 

[leon2006]

For now this is one of the available models

http://www.caterpillar.com/brands/cat

 

[cscottm90]

I need one of those for when someone parks their car in my space. Can I get that for $250 ?

For now this is one of the available models
http://www.caterpillar.com/brands/cat

 

[Motopsychojdn]

No,Thats the LX variant, you wont get much change from 250k I'm afraid or theres the flagship@ just shy of 400k http://buildandquote.cat.com/SEUILibrary/catcustom-portal/jsp/navigation/viewLargeImage.jsp?picName=973C
Moto

 

[farrengottu]

good news.....that 4170 is coming out in the first wave!!!

that sounded so good i had to look it up just because it was unbelievable. but its true! I'm thrilled.
I'll grab me one of these, ive got the dd3 1866 already laying on my desk. i cant decide on mobo so ill wait.
gonna grab the soon to be released radeon 7970, just saw its specs today. heres link.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-HD-7900-XDR2-Rambus-Memory,13408.html
and just need a case and power after that. ive got a couple 24"ers laying around and a dozen keyboards and mice.
hell i have so many mice my closet is nearly a petting zoo.

 

[farrengottu]

amd has new everything coming out, breaking world records, and has a new CEO that i like. im very glad that i have a couple hundred shares of their stock its about to go up a lot.

 

[nforce4max]

I am happy with my AMD rig (main) for now despite only having a p2 x4 820 and see no need to upgrade until maybe a year or two from now. When my level of frustration is rising in proportion to the lag then I'll upgrade.

 

[Motopsychojdn]

I'm still wondering if the 4xxx series is going to be the top performing gamechip or if four real cores is going to be the best option in which case its an 8xxx,
I hate to say it but benchmarks are going to be my guide on this one so its waiting, no issue as the rest of my build is on hold atm anyhow
Moto

 

[jimmysmitty]

that sounded so good i had to look it up just because it was unbelievable. but its true! I'm thrilled.
I'll grab me one of these, ive got the dd3 1866 already laying on my desk. i cant decide on mobo so ill wait.
gonna grab the soon to be released radeon 7970, just saw its specs today. heres link.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-HD-7900-XDR2-Rambus-Memory,13408.html
and just need a case and power after that. ive got a couple 24"ers laying around and a dozen keyboards and mice.
hell i have so many mice my closet is nearly a petting zoo.

If those specs are true, I just might have to get me a HD7970. Because that would be a major upgrade over my HD5870, unlike the HD6870.

448 more SPs, insane bandwidth memory and 1GHz core.

Lets just hope this doesn't turn out like Rambus RIMMs......

 

[samuelspark]

AMD's 4XXX BD's are waaaaay better than i5 2500k. On paper.


i5 2500k's been only $180 at microcenter... just saying

 

[farrengottu]

If those specs are true, I just might have to get me a HD7970. Because that would be a major upgrade over my HD5870, unlike the HD6870.

448 more SPs, insane bandwidth memory and 1GHz core.

Lets just hope this doesn't turn out like Rambus RIMMs......

I'm running a 5770 so this would be at least 3 times faster than my card maybe as much as 5 times in the right game. i really need this kind of performance for my three 27 inch monitors. im tired of medium settings.

 

[darkside_gamer7]

that sounded so good i had to look it up just because it was unbelievable. but its true! I'm thrilled.
I'll grab me one of these, ive got the dd3 1866 already laying on my desk. i cant decide on mobo so ill wait.
gonna grab the soon to be released radeon 7970, just saw its specs today. heres link.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-HD-7900-XDR2-Rambus-Memory,13408.html
and just need a case and power after that. ive got a couple 24"ers laying around and a dozen keyboards and mice.
hell i have so many mice my closet is nearly a petting zoo.

7970 doesnt come out til q1 2012...when is that exactly?

 

[Motopsychojdn]

First three months of next year, (allegedly, can't hold me to that )
Moto

 

[iam2thecrowe]

7970 doesnt come out til q1 2012...when is that exactly?

you mean q3 2012, as they will delay it, then delay it further, just like bulldozer.

 

[cmcghee358]

You seem to be mistaken. The GPU side does quite well with getting their product out in the target quarter. Perhaps you are thinking of nVidia?

 

[iam2thecrowe]

You seem to be mistaken. The GPU side does quite well with getting their product out in the target quarter. Perhaps you are thinking of nVidia?

no, nvidia puts their product out on time, they just put out unfinished, power hungry, furnaces like the gtx465, 470 and 480. Then they release their finished product, the gtx460.

 

[cmcghee358]

Oh then that means that nVidia plans to be 6 months behind AMD then, makes sense.

Set your goals low and you'll never be disappointed.