[SOLVED] Which of these pre-builds would you recommend?

Llamaman

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Hi all
I'll start with some basic background so you understand my circumstances.
My 7 year old gaming laptop is on its last legs (keeps crashing during zoom calls, noisy, GPU looking ancient) and needs replacing. I still need something small, but am eyeing up a mini-ITX system for 2 reasons;
- Better value
- Possible upgrade path
I already have a 1080p 75Mhz monitor I can use (I may buy a second better monitor).
I don't have a lot of free time so am willing to drop some extra £ on a pre-build. Main uses are gaming and general office work (Excel, Word) via a VPN during lockdown. No CAD or heavy computational tasks.

I was looking at custom builds but also came across a couple of outlet/clearance deals which look tempting. Which would you go for?

Build 1: Kolink Satellite Plus case, GA-Z370N motherboard, i5-9400F, 16Gb 2666Mhz RAM, GTX1660 TI, 250Gb M2, 1TB 7200 RPM HDD, 650W PSU. £900

Build 2: Corsair One - watercooled AIO - i7-7700K, 16Gb 2400Mhz RAM, GTX1080 8Gb, 420Gb M2, 2TB HDD £1100.

Build 3: Coolermaster 130 case, A320i-K motherboard, Ryzen 3-3100, 16Gb 2400Mhz RAM, 1660 Super, 250Gb Samsung EVO M2, 2TB 7200RPM HDD, 550W PSU. £891. Can fiddle with the spec on this one. R3-3220 for £25 less, or 3300X for £15 more or R5-3400 for £28 more. Can also upgrade to faster RAM if any point.

The Corsair seems to offer the most bang-for-buck, but will be really hard to upgrade (probably impossible really) so it will need to last me a few years. But it's stronger now than the others so has a head start.
The third build is the weakest in spec, but as long as the CPU isn't the limiting factor, I can upgrade that later as there are plenty of faster AM4 CPUs that will come down in price in future. Build 1 is on LGA1151 which looks dead already so little upgrade path beyond the i9-9900.

Thanks for your help.
 
Solution
How about this;
https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/prometheus-mini-gaming-computer

Case
1 x Cougar QBX £63.00

Power Supply
1 x Corsair CX550 550W £58.00

Processor
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4Ghz Turbo 3.9Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread £127.00

Processor Cooler
1 x Stock Manufacturer Heatsink and fan £0.00

RAM
1 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400Mhz (2 x 8GB) FREE UPGRADE TO 3000MHZ £75.00

Motherboard
1 x Asus PRIME A320I-K £100.00

Graphics Card1 x Nvidia GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB £242.00

Hard Drive
1 x 250GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVME SSD £82.00
2nd Hard Drive
1 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM

3-5 day build
£915

Alternative cases are;
Thermaltake v1
Fractal Design Node 304
Bitfenix Prodigy
(Im not a fan of...

kevinburrow

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It's painful to see such poor value builds for a grand. Corsair one isn't good at all, you're paying unneccessarily for water cooling when it's neither needed nor any better than air cooling. None of them mention the PSU. If you have to go pre-built this one is much better value IMO (I modified the one on the link), though as with any pre-build it's still nowhere near as good as you can build but you already know that :):

https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/chaos-gaming-computer


Power Supply
Corsair CX550 550W

Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz Turbo 4.2Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread

RAM
16GB Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200Mhz (2 x 8GB)

Motherboard
Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming

Graphics Card
Nvidia GeForce® RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB

Hard Drive
240GB Kingston A400 SSD

2nd Hard Drive
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM

Total price inc shipping £1050
 

Llamaman

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It's painful to see such poor value builds for a grand. Corsair one isn't good at all, you're paying unneccessarily for water cooling when it's neither needed nor any better than air cooling. None of them mention the PSU. If you have to go pre-built this one is much better value IMO (I modified the one on the link), though as with any pre-build it's still nowhere near as good as you can build but you already know that :):

https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/chaos-gaming-computer


Power Supply
Corsair CX550 550W

Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz Turbo 4.2Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread

RAM
16GB Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200Mhz (2 x 8GB)

Motherboard
Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming

Graphics Card
Nvidia GeForce® RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB

Hard Drive
240GB Kingston A400 SSD

2nd Hard Drive
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM

Total price inc shipping £1050
Thanks, but a mid-tower is too big . However, I will use the other specs to come up with a mini-rig build.
 

Llamaman

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How about this;
https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/prometheus-mini-gaming-computer

Case
1 x Cougar QBX £63.00

Power Supply
1 x Corsair CX550 550W £58.00

Processor
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4Ghz Turbo 3.9Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread £127.00

Processor Cooler
1 x Stock Manufacturer Heatsink and fan £0.00

RAM
1 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400Mhz (2 x 8GB) FREE UPGRADE TO 3000MHZ £75.00

Motherboard
1 x Asus PRIME A320I-K £100.00

Graphics Card1 x Nvidia GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB £242.00

Hard Drive
1 x 250GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVME SSD £82.00
2nd Hard Drive
1 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM

3-5 day build
£915

Alternative cases are;
Thermaltake v1
Fractal Design Node 304
Bitfenix Prodigy
(Im not a fan of windows)
Any thoughts?
 

kevinburrow

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How about this;
https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/prometheus-mini-gaming-computer

Case
1 x Cougar QBX £63.00

Power Supply
1 x Corsair CX550 550W £58.00

Processor
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4Ghz Turbo 3.9Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread £127.00

Processor Cooler
1 x Stock Manufacturer Heatsink and fan £0.00

RAM
1 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400Mhz (2 x 8GB) FREE UPGRADE TO 3000MHZ £75.00

Motherboard
1 x Asus PRIME A320I-K £100.00

Graphics Card1 x Nvidia GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB £242.00

Hard Drive
1 x 250GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVME SSD £82.00
2nd Hard Drive
1 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM

3-5 day build
£915

Alternative cases are;
Thermaltake v1
Fractal Design Node 304
Bitfenix Prodigy
(Im not a fan of windows)
Any thoughts?

The 3600 is widely regarded as best bang for buck price but certainly the 2600 will be fine if you want to save some money. 3200mhz RAM would be bettrer but I do notice they charge quite a bit more for it. Oh and has been noted above always go for 2x8 RAM and not one single stick. I'd definitely be more comfortable with a B450 motherboard than that one, but it's not changeable in the build you modified.

The 2060 super is quite significantly better but the 1660 S will be fine for high-very high gaming at 60-75mhz. If you plan on gaming at ultra or on a higher frequency at some stage then 2060 or 2060 Super is recommended. Also, I think you might be putting too much emphasis on getting an M.2 drive. In reality these drives are not noticeably faster than a standard SSD for the average tasks of average users, as you can see -
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3AMz-xZ2VM&t=20s
 
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Llamaman

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The 3600 is widely regarded as best bang for buck price but certainly the 2600 will be fine if you want to save some money. 3200mhz RAM would be bettrer but I do notice they charge quite a bit more for it. Oh and has been noted above always go for 2x8 RAM and not one single stick. I'd definitely be more comfortable with a B450 motherboard than that one, but it's not changeable in the build you modified.

The 2060 super is quite significantly better but the 1660 S will be fine for high-very high gaming at 60-75mhz. If you plan on gaming at ultra or on a higher frequency at some stage then 2060 or 2060 Super is recommended. Also, I think you might be putting too much emphasis on getting an M.2 drive. In reality these drives are not noticeably faster than a standard SSD for the average tasks of average users, as you can see -
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3AMz-xZ2VM&t=20s
Thanks!
That video was brilliant. I'd assumed an M2 would be much better but those real world test prove otherwise. I'll rethink my builds.

Why a B450 motherboard, if you don't mind me asking?