Which of these two is better?

[Tominacus]

Hey Community,

I was wondering which makes for the better gaming pc. They both dont have ram because surprisingly I have 8 compatible gbs just lying around 😀.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gsj2TW

OR

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wHnLjX

Thanks

 

[thor220]

The AMD rig is better. The processor's just faster.

 

[Mominul Hussain]

ive had that mobo + cpu combo, alot of heat problems, even with hyper 212 evo, get a better mobo trust me

 

[Tominacus]

ive had that mobo + cpu combo, alot of heat problems, even with hyper 212 evo, get a better mobo trust me

For the AMD rig mobo or the intel rig?

 

[Mominul Hussain]

amd

 

[Mominul Hussain]

or go for a fx-6300 and splash some cash on a better gpu

 

[Tominacus]

amd

Ok, thanks a lot, planning on buying this weekend. Very helpful +1

 

[thor220]

You should find some good combo deals on newegg and tigerdirect. Be ready to change your build up to accommodate these as they sell out fast.

 

[TofuLion]

hmm.. both of these cpu benefit greatly from overclocking. the pentium has an advantage because it's haswell and will overclock nicely. it also leaves an extensive upgrade path.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool ICE BLADE 200M 43.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($80.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $407.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-27 23:28 EST-0500

 

[Tominacus]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

 

[Tominacus]

You should find some good combo deals on newegg and tigerdirect. Be ready to change your build up to accommodate these as they sell out fast.

Thanks for the advice, Ill be looking for alternatives just in case.

 

[TofuLion]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

its hard to imagine, but the dual core has better technology than the 8-core. this, on top of the fact that it overclocks just as well, or better, makes it a better option for short term, with upgrade in mind. if you never plan to upgrade or modify, the 8320 is better.

 

[Tominacus]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

its hard to imagine, but the dual core has better technology than the 8-core. this, on top of the fact that it overclocks just as well, or better, makes it a better option for short term, with upgrade in mind. if you never plan to upgrade or modify, the 8320 is better.

Im debating on going with the intel rig due to the exact reason. "Upgrading". Honestly id love to upgrade, so Im still a bit leaning towards both sides. Down the road i could upgrade to an i5 or i7 :/ Do you suggest the intel rig for upgrading?

 

[TofuLion]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

its hard to imagine, but the dual core has better technology than the 8-core. this, on top of the fact that it overclocks just as well, or better, makes it a better option for short term, with upgrade in mind. if you never plan to upgrade or modify, the 8320 is better.

Im debating on going with the intel rig due to the exact reason. "Upgrading". Honestly id love to upgrade, so Im still a bit leaning towards both sides. Down the road i could upgrade to an i5 or i7 :/ Do you suggest the intel rig for upgrading?

for upgrading, yes. in either case, i strongly suggest overclocking. it will take more research, but with today's standards, it's simple.

the g3258 is a special edition cpu designed by intel to compete with amd budget cpus. it is a haswell (which means it has extraordinary single thread performance) and has an unlocked multiplier (unlike most intel cpus). most current games aren't able to scale to more than 4 cores anyway, this does present a problem because they usually benefit from more than two.

the fx8320 is also designed to be overclocked. it's funny that these two are being compared, because the 8320 is at the top end for amd, while the g3258 in at the bottom for intel. that's why it seems like no comparison. the fx83** can easily reach 4.0 and beyond. the single core performance is what holds them back. they are excellent at handling multiple apps, even when gaming. but the socket is dead. there is no upgrade, other than a factory overclocked version of that same cpu.

 

[Tominacus]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

its hard to imagine, but the dual core has better technology than the 8-core. this, on top of the fact that it overclocks just as well, or better, makes it a better option for short term, with upgrade in mind. if you never plan to upgrade or modify, the 8320 is better.

Im debating on going with the intel rig due to the exact reason. "Upgrading". Honestly id love to upgrade, so Im still a bit leaning towards both sides. Down the road i could upgrade to an i5 or i7 :/ Do you suggest the intel rig for upgrading?

for upgrading, yes. in either case, i strongly suggest overclocking. it will take more research, but with today's standards, it's simple.

the g3258 is a special edition cpu designed by intel to compete with amd budget cpus. it is a haswell (which means it has extraordinary single thread performance) and has an unlocked multiplier (unlike most intel cpus). most current games aren't able to scale to more than 4 cores anyway, this does present a problem because they usually benefit from more than two.

the fx8320 is also designed to be overclocked. it's funny that these two are being compared, because the 8320 is at the top end for amd, while the g3258 in at the bottom for intel. that's why it seems like no comparison. the fx83** can easily reach 4.0 and beyond. the single core performance is what holds them back. they are excellent at handling multiple apps, even when gaming. but the socket is dead. there is no upgrade, other than a factory overclocked version of that same cpu.

Well, i think I'm sold with Intel. Id rather upgrade 2 or 3 months down the road, thanks for all your help. If there's anything else i need to know post on this thread ill be checking it just in case. +1

 

[thor220]

You won't be able to upgrade the intel rig down the line. Intel forces you to buy a new motherboard every time and they stop production of older socket CPUs quickly. AMD is a better choice for now and upgrade in the future. Overclocking shouldn't be done until you are comfortable with it. Even if you do manage to succeed, AMD leads by far in the budget arena.

 

[Tominacus]

You won't be able to upgrade the intel rig down the line. Intel forces you to buy a new motherboard every time and they stop production of older socket CPUs quickly. AMD is a better choice for now and upgrade in the future. Overclocking shouldn't be done until you are comfortable with it. Even if you do manage to succeed, AMD leads by far in the budget arena.

As far as overclocking, I know how to do that, done it before. But now im really in a huge dilemma. AMD or Intel???? I want to upgrade, as for what ive heard, intel performance gets better than AMD at higher prices, but AMD has better performance at lower prices. The other thing I dont understand is how Intel forces you to buy a new MoBo. Thie mobo I selected is compatible with i5s ans i7s, which I aim to upgrade to in the future,

 

[thor220]

Yes intel is much better at higher prices. Intel doesn't allow you to upgrade without buying a whole new motherboard. The motherboard you have may work with ivy i5s but not too far from now intel will release the next gen and the processors that work with your mobo will start going out of stock. In other words, you will have to buy a new mobo + cpu. You can't even get 3 y/o intel processors anymore.

If you are just gaming, the amd cpu will be enough for a long time.

 

[TofuLion]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

its hard to imagine, but the dual core has better technology than the 8-core. this, on top of the fact that it overclocks just as well, or better, makes it a better option for short term, with upgrade in mind. if you never plan to upgrade or modify, the 8320 is better.

Im debating on going with the intel rig due to the exact reason. "Upgrading". Honestly id love to upgrade, so Im still a bit leaning towards both sides. Down the road i could upgrade to an i5 or i7 :/ Do you suggest the intel rig for upgrading?

for upgrading, yes. in either case, i strongly suggest overclocking. it will take more research, but with today's standards, it's simple.

the g3258 is a special edition cpu designed by intel to compete with amd budget cpus. it is a haswell (which means it has extraordinary single thread performance) and has an unlocked multiplier (unlike most intel cpus). most current games aren't able to scale to more than 4 cores anyway, this does present a problem because they usually benefit from more than two.

the fx8320 is also designed to be overclocked. it's funny that these two are being compared, because the 8320 is at the top end for amd, while the g3258 in at the bottom for intel. that's why it seems like no comparison. the fx83** can easily reach 4.0 and beyond. the single core performance is what holds them back. they are excellent at handling multiple apps, even when gaming. but the socket is dead. there is no upgrade, other than a factory overclocked version of that same cpu.

Well, i think I'm sold with Intel. Id rather upgrade 2 or 3 months down the road, thanks for all your help. If there's anything else i need to know post on this thread ill be checking it just in case. +1

the gpu will also need an upgrade soon. almost so soon it might be worth investing in a better one now. or better yet, an i5 with integrated graphics, so you can save up $300 for a nice gpu

 

[thor220]

Why are you pushing intel so hard? Integrated Intel graphics aren't even suitable for 60 fps in minecraft.

 

[Tominacus]

Id rather prefer an 8-core processor. I appreciate that rig you've outlined for me but I think im settled for the AMD.

its hard to imagine, but the dual core has better technology than the 8-core. this, on top of the fact that it overclocks just as well, or better, makes it a better option for short term, with upgrade in mind. if you never plan to upgrade or modify, the 8320 is better.

Im debating on going with the intel rig due to the exact reason. "Upgrading". Honestly id love to upgrade, so Im still a bit leaning towards both sides. Down the road i could upgrade to an i5 or i7 :/ Do you suggest the intel rig for upgrading?

for upgrading, yes. in either case, i strongly suggest overclocking. it will take more research, but with today's standards, it's simple.

the g3258 is a special edition cpu designed by intel to compete with amd budget cpus. it is a haswell (which means it has extraordinary single thread performance) and has an unlocked multiplier (unlike most intel cpus). most current games aren't able to scale to more than 4 cores anyway, this does present a problem because they usually benefit from more than two.

the fx8320 is also designed to be overclocked. it's funny that these two are being compared, because the 8320 is at the top end for amd, while the g3258 in at the bottom for intel. that's why it seems like no comparison. the fx83** can easily reach 4.0 and beyond. the single core performance is what holds them back. they are excellent at handling multiple apps, even when gaming. but the socket is dead. there is no upgrade, other than a factory overclocked version of that same cpu.

Well, i think I'm sold with Intel. Id rather upgrade 2 or 3 months down the road, thanks for all your help. If there's anything else i need to know post on this thread ill be checking it just in case. +1

the gpu will also need an upgrade soon. almost so soon it might be worth investing in a better one now. or better yet, an i5 with integrated graphics, so you can save up $300 for a nice gpu

Yea, I was looking at GPUs and I found this other one which is an r9 270, which is slightly better. Im still undecided, I really need something that will convince me to go one way. Im still very leaning. .-.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161449

 

[thor220]

Just look at this chart if you want an answer to performance.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

 

[Tominacus]

Just look at this chart if you want an answer to performance.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

If the 8320 basically competes with i7s, thats surprising, You showed me something that really is making me lean towards AMD.

 

[thor220]

This is the best deal I could find for graphics cards - use promo code YWC146548, $20 Mail in rebate
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8991507&CatId=7387

You get another $25 off on top of that if you checkout with paypal.

 

[thor220]

Just look at this chart if you want an answer to performance.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

If the 8320 basically competes with i7s, thats surprising, You showed me something that really is making me lean towards AMD.

AMD processors are very good for the price. i7 has higher single threaded performance but AMD's 8 core chips win in multi-threaded.