[SOLVED] Which one is better- cannot build one

[ConfusedWife]

Hi all, I need advice on which of these to purchase. So you understand the weight of the games- usually Total War type stuff. Graphics are not insane or anything. I cannot build my own due to time constraints so need to pick one. I tried to do research as much as I understood and these all seem comparable. If you can recommend cheaper option, that would be great as well. These are like $1200-1400.

PowerSpec G706 Gaming Desktop Computer. OR
PowerSpec G358 Gaming Computer. OR
ASUS ROG Strix GL10DH Gaming Computer

 

[USAFRet]

For any kind of serious recommendation, we'd need to know the full specs of ALL parts in the box.
Everything...make/model/size.

 

[ConfusedWife]

Sure, here. I made a page of comparisons with all specs.

Case & Motherboard
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Pro 4	ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/AX	N/A
Computer Case	N/A	PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205	N/A
Case Orientation	Vertical	Vertical	Vertical
Motherboard Chipset	AMD X570	Intel Z490	N/A

Processor
CPU Summary	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (3.6GHz)	Intel Core i7 10700 (2.9GHz)	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (3.6GHz)
CPU Core	Eight-Core	Eight-Core	Eight-Core
CPU Type	Ryzen 7	Core i7	Ryzen 7
CPU Speed	3700X (3.6GHz)	10700 (2.9GHz)	3700X (3.6GHz)
Turbo Boost Speed	Up to 4.4GHz	Up to 4.8GHz	Up to 4.4GHz
Level 2 Cache	4MB	N/A	4MB
Level 3 Cache	32MB	N/A	32MB
Smart Cache	N/A	16MB	N/A
CPU Brand	AMD	Intel	AMD
Front Side Bus	N/A	8 GT/s	N/A
CPU Socket	AM4	FCLGA1200	AM4
CPUs Installed	1	1	1
CPUs Supported	1	1	1
CPU Main Features	N/A	Intel 64 Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology Intel VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) Intel Identity Protection Technology Intel Secure Key Intel Stable Image Platform Program (SIPP) Intel Hyper-Threading Technology Intel AES New Instructions Intel Software Guard Extensions Intel Optane Memory Supported Intel Boot Guard Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 Intel vPro Platform Eligibility Intel Execute Disable Bit Intel Idle States Intel Thermal Monitoring Technologies Intel OS Guard Intel Trusted Execution Technology	N/A

 

[USAFRet]

Lacking everything except the CPU model.

What storage devices?
RAM, PSU, cooling situation, motherboard, case, GPU......

 

[ConfusedWife]

Video
Display
Solid State Drive
Memory
Total Memory	16GB	32GB	16GB
Memory Speed	DDR4-3200	DDR4-3200	DDR4-2666
Memory Configuration	2 x 8GB	N/A	2 x 8GB
Memory Slots (Total)	4	4	2
Memory Slots (Available)	2	N/A	0
Form Factor	288-pin DIMM	288-pin DIMM	288-pin DIMM
Maximum Memory Supported	64GB	64GB	N/A
SSD Interface	PCIe M.2	PCIe NVMe M.2	PCIe NVMe M.2
SSD Capacity	1TB	1TB	512GB
Webcam	No	No	No
GPU Type	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super	AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT; AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
Video Memory	8GB GDDR6	8GB GDDR6	8GB
VR Ready	Yes	Yes	Yes
GPU Interface	PCIe x16	PCIe 4.0 x16	PCIe x16

 

[ConfusedWife]

Lacking everything except the CPU model.

What storage devices?
RAM, PSU, cooling situation, motherboard, case, GPU......

the mother board and all that other stuff is listed in the chart

 

[ConfusedWife]

Case & Motherboard
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Pro 4	ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/AX	N/A
Computer Case	N/A	PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205	N/A
Case Orientation	Vertical	Vertical	Vertical
Motherboard Chipset	AMD X570	Intel Z490	N/A

 

[USAFRet]

the mother board and all that other stuff is listed in the chart

In your second post, partially.

For instance:

PCIe NVMe M.2

... covers a WIDE range of devices.

And no actual info on the other things. Actual Make/model. It does make a difference.

 

[Turtle Rig]

For any kind of serious recommendation, we'd need to know the full specs of ALL parts in the box.
Everything...make/model/size.

Im also assuming this is a complete PC with monitor as well and components? Do what USAFRet said please. Thanks🤷‍♀️👽

 

[ConfusedWife]

In your second post, partially.

For instance:

PCIe NVMe M.2

... covers a WIDE range of devices.

And no actual info on the other things. Actual Make/model. It does make a difference.

I see. Ok Let me try again.

Option 1:
Computer: PowerSpec G706 Gaming Desktop Computer
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Pro 4
Motherboard Chip Set: AMD X570
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (3.6GHz) , 8 core, Ryzen 7, 3700X (3.6GHz)
Memory: DDR4-3200, 16GB
SSD: PCIe M.2, 1 TB
GPU Type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super , 8GB GDDR6

Doesn't say anything about cooling. Case says N/A.

how is that?

 

[USAFRet]

For instance:
"SSD: PCIe M.2, 1 TB "

There is a reasonably large performance difference between an Intel 660p, and a Samsung 970 EVO Plus.
Both of which would count as "SSD: PCIe M.2, 1 TB "

Or even worse, any one of a multitude of 3rd rate devices.

Same with power supplies.
600w =/= 600w. There are BIG differences. Some of which I wouldn't use to power a desk lamp.

 

[logainofhades]

Power Spec is Microcenter's in house brand. It looks like it is using a CM AIO.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608933/powerspec-g706-gaming-desktop-computer

This one is using an air tower cooler.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/624584/powerspec-g358-gaming-computer

Both are most likely using their Power Spec PSU's. Which are subpar to ok, depending on the model. The SSD is most likely Inland professional, which is also an in house brand. They are ok enough drives, for a gaming rig.


Personally, I would choose the G706, for the faster GPU. Also Microcenter's customer support would be far better than any from Asus.

 

[USAFRet]

Sorry if it seems like nitpicking, but no reasonable recommendation could be given without a full accounting of all the parts.
Oh, and including the prices.

 

[logainofhades]

Sorry if it seems like nitpicking, but no reasonable recommendation could be given without a full accounting of all the parts.
Oh, and including the prices.

See my post above. I apparently was in the middle of editing it, before you posted.

 

[USAFRet]

See my post above. I apparently was in the middle of editing it, before you posted.

Right.
I'd probably choose one of the PowerSpecs.

Will any of the 3 "work"?
Sure. As in....not go up in a mushroom cloud.
Which is "best"? Unknown.

 

[logainofhades]

Given that the Z490 phantom gaming board is a terrible board, VRM wise, is probably why they paired it with a locked CPU. I would not get the G358.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgNEXpBrfg

 

[cryoburner]

There is a reasonably large performance difference between an Intel 660p, and a Samsung 970 EVO Plus.

As far as real-world performance is concerned for a gaming system, that's not going to make much of a difference, at least for today's games and applications. And if none of them specify the model of drive, I doubt any of them include a higher-end model like a 970 Evo, as that's something they would probably want to advertise.

As far as which of those I would go with, assuming they are all relatively close to the same price, I would probably take the first option with the Ryzen 3700X and 2070 SUPER, though all of those systems will probably perform relatively close to one another.

I would probably avoid the third option though, since they seem to be cheaping out in a few areas. The motherboard and its chipset are not listed, so it's anyone's guess what they put in there. The RAM is also relatively slow at DDR4-2666, which can hurt CPU performance a bit. And there's half as much SSD storage compared to the other models. 512GB is arguably a bit small for a gaming system in this performance range, especially if there's no traditional hard-drive to provide additional storage.

 

[USAFRet]

As far as real-world performance is concerned for a gaming system, that's not going to make much of a difference, at least for today's games and applications. And if none of them specify the model of drive, I doubt any of them include a higher-end model like a 970 Evo, as that's something they would probably want to advertise.

As far as which of those I would go with, assuming they are all relatively close to the same price, I would probably take the first option with the Ryzen 3700X and 2070 SUPER, though all of those systems will probably perform relatively close to one another.

I would probably avoid the third option though, since they seem to be cheaping out in a few areas. The motherboard and its chipset are not listed, so it's anyone's guess what they put in there. The RAM is also relatively slow at DDR4-2666, which can hurt CPU performance a bit. And there's half as much SSD storage compared to the other models. 512GB is arguably a bit small for a gaming system in this performance range, especially if there's no traditional hard-drive to provide additional storage.

Right.
So...

Leaving off the Asus with the 1/2 drive size and slower RAM.
And leaving off the G358 with the substandard Z490 motherboard.

...that leaves but one out of the 3, the G706.

 

[ConfusedWife]

Sorry if it seems like nitpicking, but no reasonable recommendation could be given without a full accounting of all the parts.
Oh, and including the prices.

Thanks so much for the feedback! Any models you can recommend that I can go to like a best buy and purchase? no on the Asus- got it!

 

[ConfusedWife]

As far as real-world performance is concerned for a gaming system, that's not going to make much of a difference, at least for today's games and applications. And if none of them specify the model of drive, I doubt any of them include a higher-end model like a 970 Evo, as that's something they would probably want to advertise.

As far as which of those I would go with, assuming they are all relatively close to the same price, I would probably take the first option with the Ryzen 3700X and 2070 SUPER, though all of those systems will probably perform relatively close to one another.

I would probably avoid the third option though, since they seem to be cheaping out in a few areas. The motherboard and its chipset are not listed, so it's anyone's guess what they put in there. The RAM is also relatively slow at DDR4-2666, which can hurt CPU performance a bit. And there's half as much SSD storage compared to the other models. 512GB is arguably a bit small for a gaming system in this performance range, especially if there's no traditional hard-drive to provide additional storage.

Thanks!

 

[USAFRet]

Thanks so much for the feedback! Any models you can recommend that I can go to like a best buy and purchase? no on the Asus- got it!

Of your original 3, the PowerSpec G706 from Microcenter.

 

[ConfusedWife]

Right.
I'd probably choose one of the PowerSpecs.

Will any of the 3 "work"?
Sure. As in....not go up in a mushroom cloud.
Which is "best"? Unknown.

Its funny- I was advised by multiple people to stay away from Alienware but in all the magazines and articles I found, it seems to be most recommended!

 

[ConfusedWife]

Of your original 3, the PowerSpec G706 from Microcenter.

Yup got it. I just thought maybe I would ask if I shouldn't just look into these 3 but perhaps something else. I heard of MSI (?) not even sure that's the name but its like over 2K which is not feasible.

 

[USAFRet]

Its funny- I was advised by multiple people to stay away from Alienware but in all the magazines and articles I found, it seems to be most recommended!

Alienware is a Dell, with extra added bling ($$$)

 

[logainofhades]

Yup got it. I just thought maybe I would ask if I shouldn't just look into these 3 but perhaps something else. I heard of MSI (?) not even sure that's the name but its like over 2K which is not feasible.

I think you would be best served, with the G706. MSI tech support is just as bad as Asus's.