which one is better ?

[viking4511]

i cant quite choose between the two builds i have done. i am new to gaming on a pc and i have the two following builds.
build1:
CPU Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core $72.98
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2PV Micro ATX LGA1150 $54.99
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $57.89
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX $164.99
Case Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower $32.99
Power Supply Corsair 500W ATX12V $79.00
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $23.95
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $99.89

build2:
CPU Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core $72.98
Motherboard MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 $93.95
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM $53.95
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo $169.99
Case Raidmax ATX-298WBP ATX Mid Tower w/500W Power Supply $99.98
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer $22.98
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $99.89

which is better for gaming on games like league of legends dota team fortress evil within and some more demanding games on max settings ?
thanks

 

[TomThePotato]

First one is weaker, yet better because of that horrible power supply in the second build. And, NO.. This PC will not be able to play on maxed settings on demanding games. Maybe a mixture of medium-high..

What's your budget?

 

[random5]

you said MORE demanding on MAX? it wont handle more demanding ones on MAX.
Flaws of your builds: both contain G3258, that's as low as gaming processor can go, if you can afford go for i5 or atleast FX-6300. 2nd build got overpriced mtoherboard,you could easily get nice one for 40-60$,2nd one uses 500GB HDD, get 1TB instead bro,1st ones PSU is overpriced and from corsair which isn't actually manufacturing nor designing it,2nd build got overpriced case with PSU onboard, most likely poor quality,also I wouldn't recommend W8.1 but if I'll keep saying that, one specific guy will ban me.

from the 2 builds id go with 2nd one ofc. though you'd need smth like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BW ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $498.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 17:24 EST-0500

 

[TomThePotato]

I don't think you'd get banned for recommending 7 over 8.1... which is still a bad thing. 😛 Supposedly, Directx12 won't be compatible with Windows 7 which is surprising as most of the gaming community uses Windows 7, and.. You may get a large discount on windows 10 if you use 8.1... (These may have been proven false)

 

[viking4511]

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BW ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $498.71

if i take this build, it would be fine for medium demanding games and since im in canada, for a budget of 600$? i am new to gaming pc builds so this would be my first build. and i already have 2x2gb memory cards, would 4gb be enough for the build you are proposing ?

 

[zeyuanfu]

This build would actually have more bang for your buck:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ Directron)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $500.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 17:36 EST-0500

The 4150 is better than the 6300 at gaming and can be upgraded to the powerful 4690K
The GPU is better
The case comes with three fans, so it'll have better airflow
The PSU is a quality Tier 2A unit that will support 2 280s in CFX.

 

[viking4511]

since i live in canada, the prices are different. i have taken you guys' advice and i came upp with this:

CPU Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core $119.48
Motherboard Asus H81M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 $59.99
Memory Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 $69.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM $53.95
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE $154.99
Case Enermax ECA3253-BW ATX Mid Tower $49.99
Power Supply Corsair 500W ATX12V $79.00
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $17.65

 

[zeyuanfu]

That build is good but get a PSU from Antec, XFX or Seasonic.

 

[viking4511]

seasonic 500w atx 12v would do the job ?

 

[geofelt]

I happen to like the G3258 as a starter cpu.
One good reason is that you will have a good intel upgrade path to i3 or i5.
With amd, you can only add cores which are not that useful since most games use only one or two cores.
But, you must plan on giving the G3258 a decent overclock.
Read this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,3888.html

The graphics card is very important for gaming, arguably more so than the cpu.
A $150 card like the GTX750ti or R9-270X would be appropriate.
You get what you pay for with either.
I like the GTX750ti because it will run on minimal power.
Whatever you do, buy a quality psu.
Tier 1 or 2 from this list:
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true
Look at Seasonic, antec, xfx. I would go a bit stronger on the wattage to allow for a future graphics upgrade. It should cost little more. 600w or so.

 

[viking4511]

this power supply ?Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V

 

[viking4511]

what can i pick for wireless network adapter, sound card and cpu cooler ?

 

[zeyuanfu]

I would get something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.48 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($46.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.89 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($229.64 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.98 @ NCIX)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $618.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-09 08:02 EST-0500

You don`t need a CPU cooler or a sound card.

 

[random5]

hmm let's see canada you say? made a couple builds:

Intel build, not only cheaper but also whole head superior to zeyu's,sorry to say that but crapsack build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($172.94 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($175.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $601.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-09 15:17 EST-0500

AMD build,bit over your budget but most modern games will be playable on max:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $650.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-09 15:21 EST-0500

 

[viking4511]

will i get sound without a sound card ?

 

[zeyuanfu]

Yes, as any motherboard has onboard sound.

 

[random5]

Ofc, nowdays motherboards got integrated sound cards.

 

[viking4511]

ok thanks for your answers i will take you guys' advice and make a build tha suits my needs.