Question Which parts to choose for a build to last and hold up.

[FatatSteel]

I want to buy the parts from as soon as tmrw to max waiting 3 months.

My budget is for ram and CPU and mobo 800 as I will buy a GPU later after that when one comes avaiable

I am going to game heavily on it, over clock the CPU and GPU, stream on it, create videos and want one that will last years.

I am buying a monitor but its on a different budget so it has no effect I will get a 1440p 240hz and pair it with some asus 1080 75hz monitor as a side one

I have a case and a 750w psu so those parts are with me and taken care of, Im not looking to upgrade either unless I have too (Corsiar RM750 and Crosiar 275r Airlfow case)

Any website for parts is ook

I am in Texas and ok with driving for parts (micro center)

I wanna see builds for both amd and Intel please to see which has more performance and which one has better pricing for what I want to do.

Yes I will overlock CPU and GPU

Sli wont be used but can be on mobo for future

One monitor will be 1440p 240hz and the other will be 1080 75hz

Please if you can make a parts list for both amd and intel, I sold my last PC so I am only starting with a case and psu so open to any suggestions. I wanna make sure my build will last the next 5 years and has rgb in it as my case has a windows ! Also I will need an AIO but I am going to get a 240 or 360mm nzxt aio so u can add a beefy CPU to the list.

Last of all THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB AORUS MASTER

there's been a lot of commotion lately about MSI going down the drain with component construction, reliability, and customer support.
a lot of the more well known manufacturers have been sliding down this path lacking in quality assurance and warranty support.

Gigabyte also being one of the prime examples.

AsRock seems to be the only really big manufacturer out there that i haven't seen recurring complaints about hardware problems and fights with support for service.

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X73

this is a very nice AIO.

the Liquid Freezer II 240 mentioned previously has garbage cooling capability compared to this thing.

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K
plan to use am5 or new intel when they come out...
I think my GPU will stick with me

why are you so concerned about a more powerful processor if you're not getting a higher tiered graphics card that will make use of all of the processing power?
the 12600K will be able to feed more than enough frames to the RTX 3070 Ti, more than it can even make use of.
unless you're doing some serious workload processing, you wouldn't require a CPU upgrade until this GPU starts to show it's age later down the line.

Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1

i recommend a smaller ~500GB drive for OS & applications while getting a larger 2-4TB drive for game installations.

never a good idea to have many games stored on the same drive as your OS due to any fresh installs wiping all of your game data along with it.
having them stored elsewhere frees up disk usage for gaming and allows you to just rescan their directories when/if any OS issues arise without downloading and installing possibly terabytes of game data.

 

[Why_Me]

there's been a lot of commotion lately about MSI going down the drain with component construction, reliability, and customer support.
a lot of the more well known manufacturers have been sliding down this path lacking in quality assurance and warranty support.

Gigabyte also being one of the prime examples.

AsRock seems to be the only really big manufacturer out there that i haven't seen recurring complaints about hardware problems and fights with support for service.

this is a very nice AIO.

the Liquid Freezer II 240 mentioned previously has garbage cooling capability compared to this thing.

why are you so concerned about a more powerful processor if you're not getting a higher tiered graphics card that will make use of all of the processing power?
the 12600K will be able to feed more than enough frames to the RTX 3070 Ti, more than it can even make use of.
unless you're doing some serious workload processing, you wouldn't require a CPU upgrade until this GPU starts to show it's age later down the line.

i recommend a smaller ~500GB drive for OS & applications while getting a larger 2-4TB drive for game installations.

never a good idea to have many games stored on the same drive as your OS due to any fresh installs wiping all of your game data along with it.
having them stored elsewhere frees up disk usage for gaming and allows you to just rescan their directories when/if any OS issues arise without downloading and installing possibly terabytes of game data.

Garbage cooling? You failed to mention the fact the 12700F doesn't need a 360mm AIO in order to keep cool and still mop the floor with the 12600K while doing it for cheaper.

https://latestintech.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-249-rgb-aio-cpu-cooler-review/

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16427/the-arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-240-420-aio-coolers-review

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

Garbage cooling?

yes, a 240mm with lower quality fans is "garbage cooling" compared to a 360mm with better fans included.
it doesn't matter what the scenario of that use may be or what type of hardware it may be cooling.

and there's the fact that having a larger radiator and better fans makes it possible to lower fan RPMs even further and decrease any noise produced.

You failed to mention the fact the 12700F doesn't need a 360mm AIO in order to keep cool and still mop the floor with the 12600K while doing it for cheaper.

what in the h*ll does that have to do with a specific cooler's capabilities?

 

[Why_Me]

yes, a 240mm with lower quality fans is "garbage cooling" compared to a 360mm with better fans included.
it doesn't matter what the scenario of that use may be or what type of hardware it may be cooling.

and there's the fact that having a larger radiator and better fans makes it possible to lower fan RPMs even further and decrease any noise produced.

what in the h*ll does that have to do with a specific cooler's capabilities?

Again I posted the 240mm in that build for the fact the there's no need for a 360mm for that cpu (12700F) so you can skip the part where that AIO is garbage.

 

[Hellfire13]

I also plan to use am5 or new intel when they come out depending on their price and performance that's why I chose "lower" tier parts.

There is nothing low tier in there and you won't find much difference in performance upgrading to next generation. Do keep in mind, DDR5 would become more mainstream in coming generations and you might be contemplating that too, increasing your upgrade cost.

Nevertheless, the build looks good as it is.

 

[Karadjgne]

@Why_Me , @JohnBonhamsGhost . Both right, both wrong. The cooling ability of the Arctic and Nzxt is so similar it's negligible. What differs is capacity. The Arctic can handle upto @ 250w without issue, the Nzxt can handle upto @ 350w.

The 12700F is a 65w cpu that'll hit @ 180w at max turbo, for all of 28 seconds, easily handled by either aio. The Arctic fans are quieter than the nzxt at decent rpms, so under a load, the Nzxt will basically match the audible output as it will not require the same rpm as the Arctic will, to get the same temps.

The cpu simply won't challenge either, although Cam can be set for liquid temp vs cpu temp, so the fans will not ramp at all with cpu boost temps, a definite bonus.

I personally prefer the 280mm versions, a good compromise of both designs.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

you can skip the part where that AIO is garbage.

maybe English isn't your native language or some other issue with grammar is affecting your understanding of my posts but in neither post did i state that that cooler in general is garbage.
just that in comparison to that specific Kraken model that specific Liquid Freezer model offers garbage cooling.

 

[FatatSteel]

maybe English isn't your native language or some other issue with grammar is affecting your understanding of my posts but in neither post did i state that that cooler in general is garbage.
just that in comparison to that specific Kraken model that specific Liquid Freezer model offers garbage cooling.

Read all posts and came down to getting a 12600k and the 360m aio as it is compatible with all future am5 and lga gen chips. the 12600k will allow me to game at 1080 and 1440 with the 3070ti wat 120+ fps. As for the mobo still deciding on that Idk which to get don't wanna spend a lot since I don't see myself having it for more that 1-2 years.

 

[Karadjgne]

View: https://youtu.be/_b2oZHGe3G0
That'll keep your prices down, and won't hurt when sold individually, since many ppl can be reluctant to buy a combo package as it'll not have the exact component mix they want.

 

[Why_Me]

View: https://youtu.be/_b2oZHGe3G0
That'll keep your prices down, and won't hurt when sold individually, since many ppl can be reluctant to buy a combo package as it'll not have the exact component mix they want.

The OP might have a tough time reselling that 12600K with a B660 board seeing how he's going to spend bigly on a 360mm AIO with a cpu that oc's.

 

[Karadjgne]

12600k will resell just fine. A B660 will resell just fine. What generally doesn't resell just fine is a 12600k on an msi elite Z690 because it has no ram. Or I want an Asus board, or I'm good with the MSI choice but I want a 12700k. Or if you include ram, it's rgb and I don't want that, or it's non rgb and I want rgb or it's not enough ram or the wrong speed. A combo is limited when ppl have other choices unless you chop the price way below individual costs. OP will recoup more selling individual parts than as a combo, regardless of what the parts are or are not.

 

[FatatSteel]

The OP might have a tough time reselling that 12600K with a B660 board seeing how he's going to spend bigly on a 360mm AIO with a cpu that oc's.

yes I figured that if I'm buying a K CPU then oc is gonna happen. Ima just buy the msi z690 pro mobo and be done. Its the cheapest and most solid board. Good vrms, wifi, and solid USB and features. Lmk if u think differently I love reading it

 

[FatatSteel]

12600k will resell just fine. A B660 will resell just fine. What generally doesn't resell just fine is a 12600k on an msi elite Z690 because it has no ram. Or I want an Asus board, or I'm good with the MSI choice but I want a 12700k. Or if you include ram, it's rgb and I don't want that, or it's non rgb and I want rgb or it's not enough ram or the wrong speed. A combo is limited when ppl have other choices unless you chop the price way below individual costs. OP will recoup more selling individual parts than as a combo, regardless of what the parts are or are not.

Yes I never have bought combos and just stuck to buying individual parts, when selling it would be a good idea to seel mobo, CPU, and ram together. Thats how I sold my b550 3700x and ram together