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I'm soon to build my PC and want to know what you guys would personally choose out of this selection:

Number 1 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZsvNkL
Number 2 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/6mBxLk
Number 3 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Bh8z8d
Number 4 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/29pFWZ

They are all pretty much similar just the difference between the CPUs being overclocked and non-overclocked.

The ones with the aftermarket coolers i would OC to around 4.4GHz.

So which one would you guys pick? And what one do you think would be the best to pick for a game like Arma 3? (Obviously the one with the best CPU and overclockable) However what difference would i get between them all in Arma 3?

Thanks :)
 
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IMO, number 2 would be the best option. It's the newest platform of intel and have DDR4 memory. However, i don't really think you will notice a huge difference between them. The GPU is the same in all of them and the GPU is the one that will be "pulling" the most while you game. I don't really think you will notice more than 4-5 fps difference. The i5-4690K is still a really good option.
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IMO, number 2 would be the best option. It's the newest platform of intel and have DDR4 memory. However, i don't really think you will notice a huge difference between them. The GPU is the same in all of them and the GPU is the one that will be "pulling" the most while you game. I don't really think you will notice more than 4-5 fps difference. The i5-4690K is still a really good option.
 
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the 2nd one, 6600k :)
 
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Reaching a specific overclock is never a sure thing, particularly with a mediocre cooler and motherboard. I'd think you could get to 4.0 pretty reliably, but not necessarily higher. Check out the Gammax 400 and Cryrorig H5 coolers. I'm not sure the Z boards you've selected a great for overclocking, but I've not tested any so I have no specific recommendations. I'm sure you'll get other suggestions besides mine.
 
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Yeah I'm thinking of going with the obvious option 2, simply as it is the best CPU and is OCable. I will be playing Arma 3 quite a bit so it will probably be the best option... Although in other games it will have really no effect. My only concer about option 2 which is where i need your guys help is, is the motherboard 'good enough' will it effect gaming at all?
Thanks for your guys help :)
 
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Thanks :) This is what I was thinking... If i can only achieve a 4GHz OC is there a point in going for the 6600k (Option 2) ? As the 6600 turbos to 3.9GHz when needed and i dont think the extra 100MHz will make a difference.
 
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You won't get lower fps if that is what you are asking. But a better motherboard and cooler means you can get a higher stable OC with the 6600K, and that means a better performance.
 
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Lastly... Does anyone actually know what i would be able to OC to? The MOBO is not the best in the range and there's not exactly a point in OCing if it turbos to 3.9 anyway. (Im new to PC building and im not exactly sure what determines what i would be able to OC to. Is it the MOBO? The CPU? Sorry if its really obvious XD)

EDIT: I know the Cooler will determine how intense the OC can be, is the one i have chosen a good choice? I dont really want to spend alot more than what there is already.
 
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It is a mix of how lucky you are with your CPU (silicon lottery), your motherboard and the cooler.

If you have a good quality mobo which can deliver the power in a stable form, you can get higher stable frequencies. If you have a bad quality mobo, when you reach certain voltages levels it won't be stable enough and will encounter errors and drawbacks. If you get a better cooler, you will be able to manage the increase of temperatures. The better the cooler, the higher you can push your CPU without it getting dangerously hot. And apart from that, if you get a "bad" CPU (not normal, but possible) you will reach the limits of it sooner than the average. Maybe you'll get 4.1 GHz and even if you increase the Voltage levels you won't be getting better results. The same could happen the other way around: you get a really good one and you can push it even more than the average with less power.

And i forgot the PSU, you need a good PSU capable to deliver the clean and stable power the mobo will be demanding.

EDIT: The Cooler is enough and it have been recommend a lot here. Now it's seems that the Cryorig H7 is a really good option, but haven't tried it myself. You won't be noticing more than a few degrees between these coolers. They both seem to be pretty good.
 
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Thanks that's very helpful! :)
I can consider changing to this MOBO -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Z170-Pro-Gaming-Motherboard/dp/B0126R3QPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461537528&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+z170+pro+gaming


and also if you take a look at this video -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvXXPTjveDI

The guy is able to OC to i think 4.5GHz with the mobo i just linked and the same fan
 
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The Hyper212 EVO is a bang/buck Loser compared to competitors like the two I mentioned. It isn't a bad cooler, but competitors are better for the same price, or cheaper for the same performance.
There is no certainty as to what your top OC will be. With the same board and stock cooler, one G3258 I had would not go over 4.0 without becoming unstable on any board. Another could do 4.2 on any board I tried.
Edit: That Asus board would definitely be a better choice if you want to OC.
 
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Normally, Asus motherboards are quality purchases. I really trust Asus and Gigabyte in terms of motherboards.
 
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z170--Intel-Skylake-CrossFire-Motherboard/dp/B0126R2LBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461538339&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+z170-a

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Z170-Pro-Gaming-Motherboard/dp/B0126R3QPA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1461538339&sr=8-2&keywords=asus+z170-a

Not sure what the difference is.. Probably nothing. Will most likely go for the PRO GAMING one as is suits the colour scheme.
Now i just need to know what cooler is the best for under £40 and i should be done :)
Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions
 
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I don't recommend you getting cheap AIO Liquid coolers. They don't perform any better than a same price air cooler at all. The fact is for that price you can get an air cooler that performs much better than the CM Seidon.
 
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Id prefer the seidon as it looks better than a huge cooler and if the performance is the same than the seidon is most likely the one id go for.

However do you know any good coolers under £40 that are not too big that perform good?
 
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I don't think the coolers mentioned before are big. There are lots of bigger ones. But if you consider them big, i don't know other ones smaller that perfoms better. In case you really want that Seidon and don't mind paying extra for the same performance everything is OK.
 
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Now looking at it, Its not a great cooler to be honest and the risk to take for a cheap liquid cooler is too high.

I was thinking about getting this liquid cooler
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Performance-Liquid-Cooler-Radiator/dp/B009VV56TY/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1461539490&sr=1-3&keywords=cpu+cooler
But apparently people have reviews where theirs has leaked so id rather not take the risk.

The 212 evo is fine, if you have and recommendations for coolers under £40 could you link them please?
However as mentioned before if i can only achieve an OC of around 4.1GHz i dont think its worth it as it turbos to 3.9GHz. So i could save a bit of money and go for a standard i5 6600(Non K) and that will come with a stock cooler. But if i can achieve an OC of 4.4GHz then i will go for that as ive seen a significant increase in FPS (In CPU intensive games such as Arma 3) in benchmarks against stock @3.5GHz and OCed @4.4GHz
 
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I don't really think that a quality and trusted mark as Corsair would sell bad quality items. Even if we are talking about the entry level item, they put they name on it. The same goes for the Cooler Master Seidon. I'm not saying that it's impossible they leak, but i don't think it's as common as you would think. Still, the leak danger is real.

About £40 coolers, i cannot guarantee at all you will get a 4.4 GHz. As i said, a high OC is the result of several factors and even if you have a high-end mobo, a spectacular custom water loop and a top 1200W PSU you can still have bad luck and don't get over 4.1 GHz. My i5 6600K haven't arrived yet so i can share my experience ovrclocking it. The only i can recommend you is to go to the OC section of the froum, check some post about i5 6600K OC experiences and post your doubts.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/noctua-NH-U9DXi4-Noctua-NH-U9DX-i4/dp/B00E1JGFA0?ie=UTF8&SubscriptionId=AKIAI3INFIGIMW2PG6XA&ascsubtag=%5Bsite%7Cthauk%5Bcat%7C%5Bart%7C%5Bpid%7CB00E1JGFA0%5Btid%7C14615771596492380%5Bbbc%7CLEPRIX&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00E1JGFA0&linkCode=xm2&tag=shopping_rev-uk-21

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Computers-Cryorig-H7-alle-Sockel/dp/B00S7YA5FQ

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MBTOY2S/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=569136327&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00S7YA5FQ&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=Z231EPHQAD2JMX4ZH9PF

These ones are really good coolers and costs around £40. The Noctua one is one of the Tom's Hardware top Coolers according to he post. I recommend you to look some reviews so you can compare them and decide while considering various factors as the size, price, noise levls, etc. You don't have to choose only because of the performance/price ratio. There are other valuable factors you can choose to be more important as the aesthetics.
 
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That's true. Sorry, my mistake. Thank you for pointing that out!
 
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No problem. Regarding over clocking, don't forget the over clock is on all 4 cores compared to turbo boost on only two cores I think so it will make a difference. The turbo boost is good for single thread operations but in quad core ones its the difference between 4x 3.5ghz and 4x4.1 ghz for example.

The difference in price between the 6600 and 6600k is small, its only the cost of buying a cooler on the k chip that makes it more expensive. If you don't like the stock cooler then you have to buy one anyway so may as well get the k chip for the slightly faster base clock and possible oc in the future.
 
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I'm going to stick with the 212 evo simply as there's less risk, also if it breaks it's cheaper to replace.

I'm okay with the whole build so far. Is there any places where I can save a bit of money? Like PSU... Do I need to spend £80 on it or is there a cheaper option?
 
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I got exactly the same PSU, evga super nova g2 650w and its a quality unit. It powers every component, I wouldn't recommend trying to save money here. A cheaper one may be £50 or £60? Not worth saving £20 for in my opinion.
 
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