[SOLVED] Which RAM = Better? 4000 Samsung B-Die or 4400 Hynix?

[Gintama69]

Just wondering which RAM between these two would be better on Intel system.
1. 32GB(4x 8GB) Team Xcalibur DDR4 4000 (Samsung B-Die)
https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/product/xcalibur-rgb-ddr4
or
2. 32GB(4x 8GB) Thermaltake Toughram DDR4 4400 (Hynix)
https://www.thermaltake.com.au/toughram-rgb-memoryddr4-4400mhz-16g-8g-x2.html

I used to have the 32GB Team Xcalibur DDR4 4000 RAM on my previous system(9900KS, Z390, RTX2080Ti etc) and I was able to run XMP(4000 @ 18-22-22-42) no problem and I was also able to overclock the memory to faster timing 4000 @ 15-15-15-35 @ ~1.5v iirc without any issue.

I haven't tried the 32GB Thermaltake Toughram DDR4 4400 yet, but I'll probably use it for my next build(10900K, Z490 etc), but afaik it probably won't overclock well, i.e. best I can probably run is the default XMP(i.e. 4400 @ 19-25-25-45).

Q1. IF I ran both RAM at just default XMP, would there be much performance difference between the two? i.e.
4000 @ 18-22-22-42
vs
4400 @ 19-25-25-45
Which one would be better on Intel system? I'm guessing Thermaltake 4400..

Q2. Would the overclocked Team Xcalibur 4000 RAM(Samsung B-Die) outperform the stock Thermaltake Toughram 4400? i.e.
4000 @ 15-15-15-35
vs
4400 @ 19-25-25-45

Thanks heaps.

 

[Third-Eye]

Was 4000Mhz enough before? I doubt you will see any real improvement moving to 4400 if it's just for gaming. Edit - Also, I wouldn't get 4400Mhz unless it's at least Hynix AFR (A-die) and it probably can't achieve the same timings as you had on the Samsung B-die 4000 kit.

 

[Gintama69]

4000 RAM wasn't too bad.
It was noticeably faster than 3200 CL16 RAM on bench even at stock XMP settings. So I just ran it at stock XMP speed most of the time.
Only problem I had with 4000 RAM was that I wasn't able to run XMP on Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite mobo with 9900K(tried two different ones) but XMP ran fine when I tried with 9900KS. Later I changed the mobo to Asus Maximus XI Extreme and it ran XMP fine with 9900KS but didn't try other CPUs.

Guess I'm answering my own question, but I'm sure 4400 CL19 would be better than 4000 CL18 at stock XMP settings. But only issue is that it's gonna be much harder to run the RAM at 4400(vs 4000) unless I get a really good mobo and also get a CPU with good IMC. (but hopefully bit easier on Z490 setup).
I think 4400 CL19 should still outperform 4000 CL15 on bench too..

But disadvantage of 4400 CL19 RAM would be that:

1. it's much harder to run 4400 on most setups.
2. I'll be only able to run XMP timings, i.e. won't be able to overclock at all.. cos that's the case with all(most?) Hynix RAM afaik.

So therefore I might be forced to run 4000 or 4200 at slower timing(default XMP) if I can't run the default XMP.

With 4000 Samsung B-Die, I should be able to run XMP or 4000 CL15 on 90+% high-end setups.
But with 4400 Hynix RAM, I can probably only run XMP on 70-80% high-end setups, and be forced to run slower speed on high percentage of setups.