Which RPG next?

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"FTA" <FTA@fake.email> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the info, from here on out I'll start checking the RPG
> group on a regular basis for more info about the Gothic 2 expansion.
>
>
> That's my 2¢,
>
> FTA

Just to give a bit more info - Yes, it's designed not really as an addon but
an all round expansion of the whole of Gothic 2 - so the weapons are changed
in balance (more realistic for their types etc), there are loads of new
weapons, spells and monsters, a brand new area, lots of extra/optional side
quests as well as a new main quest that is all linked up with the main aim
of the game....

From my own point of view, having to start over was a good thing!

 

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> I'm running a 2 GHz Pentium 4 and the time it takes to load the game
> from CD is around 30 minutes plus another 30 minutes or more to
create
> the character and get to the Inn

Just a wild stab in the dark here... do you use Internet Explorer as
your web browser?

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I think I'll pick up one of the
IWDs (which?), and hunt on ebay for BG2. I'm also tempted by ToEE
because I read a review saying that although it's complicated, it comes
with a fantastic manual that's a good detailed introduction to the D&D
rules.

Andy

 

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> I'm running a 2 GHz Pentium 4 and the time it takes to load the game
> from CD is around 30 minutes plus another 30 minutes or more to
create
> the character and get to the Inn

Just a wild stab in the dark here... do you use Internet Explorer as
your web browser?

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I think I'll pick up one of the
Icewind Dales (which?) and then hunt around on ebay for BG2. I'm also
tempted by ToEE because one of the reviews said that although it's
complicated, it has a fantastic manual which is a good detailed intro
to the D&D rules.

Andy

 

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Michael W. Ryder wrote:
> Darrel Hoffman wrote:
>>> I am like you, the first I played AoE and got into PC games. Now I
>>> play quite bit RPG.
>>> My all time favorite is baldur's gate. You don't have to be D&D rule
>>
>> expert
>>
>>> to play these games. If you enjoy good story, you will love
>>> Baldur's gate series. BG1 starts with very good tutorial to make
>>> you comfortable.
>>
>>
>> BG1 pissed me off initially. I went through a rather long and boring
>> introduction, then went out into the world, and my entire party was
>> killed by a single ogre mage right out the front gate. Of course, I
>> hadn't saved, since I wasn't expecting a monster that could kill my
>> entire party so quickly to be waiting right outside the front gate.
>> So I had to do the long and boring introduction part all over again.
>> (Apparently there's no way to skip it...) By the time I got out the
>> gate again, I was so tired of it I almost wanted to stop playing
>> right there. But I saved before the ogre mage arrived. And this
>> time, of course, the guy that's supposed to accompany you outside
>> the gate and take care of the ogre mage for you was with me, because
>> I didn't screw up the quest like the first time. Okay, so the ogre
>> mage didn't kill me. But 5 minutes later, I lost the entire party
>> to a pack of wolves. And when I tried to reload the save that I
>> made before the ogre mage, it was corrupted. I put the game on the
>> shelf and never looked back.
>>
>>
> I have tried the game several times and make it all the way to the Inn
> and then get wasted. No chance to fight back. A single mage
> surrounded by fighters shouldn't stand a chance, but he prevails.

Let the guards handle it and run away. Not every battle has to be fought and
won.

> too gave up on the game and will probably never try again. It takes
> too long to load the game

It shoudn't, not unless you have a sub 500MHz CPU. On my 800Mhz Duron it
only takes 3 or 4 seconds at most to load most areas.

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Burning_Ranger wrote:

> Michael W. Ryder wrote:
>
>>Darrel Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>>>I am like you, the first I played AoE and got into PC games. Now I
>>>>play quite bit RPG.
>>>>My all time favorite is baldur's gate. You don't have to be D&D rule
>>>
>>>expert
>>>
>>>
>>>>to play these games. If you enjoy good story, you will love
>>>>Baldur's gate series. BG1 starts with very good tutorial to make
>>>>you comfortable.
>>>
>>>
>>>BG1 pissed me off initially. I went through a rather long and boring
>>>introduction, then went out into the world, and my entire party was
>>>killed by a single ogre mage right out the front gate. Of course, I
>>>hadn't saved, since I wasn't expecting a monster that could kill my
>>>entire party so quickly to be waiting right outside the front gate.
>>>So I had to do the long and boring introduction part all over again.
>>>(Apparently there's no way to skip it...) By the time I got out the
>>>gate again, I was so tired of it I almost wanted to stop playing
>>>right there. But I saved before the ogre mage arrived. And this
>>>time, of course, the guy that's supposed to accompany you outside
>>>the gate and take care of the ogre mage for you was with me, because
>>>I didn't screw up the quest like the first time. Okay, so the ogre
>>>mage didn't kill me. But 5 minutes later, I lost the entire party
>>>to a pack of wolves. And when I tried to reload the save that I
>>>made before the ogre mage, it was corrupted. I put the game on the
>>>shelf and never looked back.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I have tried the game several times and make it all the way to the Inn
>>and then get wasted. No chance to fight back. A single mage
>>surrounded by fighters shouldn't stand a chance, but he prevails.
>
>
> Let the guards handle it and run away. Not every battle has to be fought and
> won.
>
>
I tried that and he shot me in the back. Considering that my party had
over 30 HP and Magic Missiles do around 4 points each there is No way he
should have been able to wipe me out. This encounter just pissed me off
way too much.


>>too gave up on the game and will probably never try again. It takes
>>too long to load the game
>
>
> It shoudn't, not unless you have a sub 500MHz CPU. On my 800Mhz Duron it
> only takes 3 or 4 seconds at most to load most areas.
>

I'm running a 2 GHz Pentium 4 and the time it takes to load the game
from CD is around 30 minutes plus another 30 minutes or more to create
the character and get to the Inn just to die again and again. Needless
to say the game was promptly uninstalled.


> --
>
> Burning_Ranger
>
> To email: aziz@aziz1removethisbit.fsnet.co.uk
>
>

 

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Actually, this is fairly easy to win, providing you pause and maximise your
attacks.
I did have to re-load a couple of times until I got the first hit, but then
no problem.

"Burning_Ranger" <aziz@NOSPAMaziz99.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Michael W. Ryder wrote:
>> Darrel Hoffman wrote:
>>>> I am like you, the first I played AoE and got into PC games. Now I
>>>> play quite bit RPG.
>>>> My all time favorite is baldur's gate. You don't have to be D&D rule
>>>
>>> expert
>>>
>>>> to play these games. If you enjoy good story, you will love
>>>> Baldur's gate series. BG1 starts with very good tutorial to make
>>>> you comfortable.
>>>
>>>
>>> BG1 pissed me off initially. I went through a rather long and boring
>>> introduction, then went out into the world, and my entire party was
>>> killed by a single ogre mage right out the front gate. Of course, I
>>> hadn't saved, since I wasn't expecting a monster that could kill my
>>> entire party so quickly to be waiting right outside the front gate.
>>> So I had to do the long and boring introduction part all over again.
>>> (Apparently there's no way to skip it...) By the time I got out the
>>> gate again, I was so tired of it I almost wanted to stop playing
>>> right there. But I saved before the ogre mage arrived. And this
>>> time, of course, the guy that's supposed to accompany you outside
>>> the gate and take care of the ogre mage for you was with me, because
>>> I didn't screw up the quest like the first time. Okay, so the ogre
>>> mage didn't kill me. But 5 minutes later, I lost the entire party
>>> to a pack of wolves. And when I tried to reload the save that I
>>> made before the ogre mage, it was corrupted. I put the game on the
>>> shelf and never looked back.
>>>
>>>
>> I have tried the game several times and make it all the way to the Inn
>> and then get wasted. No chance to fight back. A single mage
>> surrounded by fighters shouldn't stand a chance, but he prevails.
>
> Let the guards handle it and run away. Not every battle has to be fought
> and
> won.
>
>> too gave up on the game and will probably never try again. It takes
>> too long to load the game
>
> It shoudn't, not unless you have a sub 500MHz CPU. On my 800Mhz Duron it
> only takes 3 or 4 seconds at most to load most areas.
>
> --
>
> Burning_Ranger
>
> To email: aziz@aziz1removethisbit.fsnet.co.uk
>
>

 

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Henchman:crg wrote:
> Actually, this is fairly easy to win, providing you pause and maximise your
> attacks.
> I did have to re-load a couple of times until I got the first hit, but then
> no problem.
>

That's probably true but I was still trying to get the hang of the
interface and all and it was just too soon to go up against a "boss"
creature. Having played D&D for over 20 years I know how the fight
should have gone and the way it played in the game was not even close.
The mage should not have gotten more than his first magic mirror spell
off before we were slicing and dicing him. Instead he got off multiple
magic missile attacks while we just stood there and took them.
Obviously he was at least 3rd or 4th level but he should have had less
HP than my 1st level fighter and far less chance of survival.


> "Burning_Ranger" <aziz@NOSPAMaziz99.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:36qmj0F546gi6U1@individual.net...
>
>>Michael W. Ryder wrote:
>>
>>>Darrel Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I am like you, the first I played AoE and got into PC games. Now I
>>>>>play quite bit RPG.
>>>>>My all time favorite is baldur's gate. You don't have to be D&D rule
>>>>
>>>>expert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>to play these games. If you enjoy good story, you will love
>>>>>Baldur's gate series. BG1 starts with very good tutorial to make
>>>>>you comfortable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>BG1 pissed me off initially. I went through a rather long and boring
>>>>introduction, then went out into the world, and my entire party was
>>>>killed by a single ogre mage right out the front gate. Of course, I
>>>>hadn't saved, since I wasn't expecting a monster that could kill my
>>>>entire party so quickly to be waiting right outside the front gate.
>>>>So I had to do the long and boring introduction part all over again.
>>>>(Apparently there's no way to skip it...) By the time I got out the
>>>>gate again, I was so tired of it I almost wanted to stop playing
>>>>right there. But I saved before the ogre mage arrived. And this
>>>>time, of course, the guy that's supposed to accompany you outside
>>>>the gate and take care of the ogre mage for you was with me, because
>>>>I didn't screw up the quest like the first time. Okay, so the ogre
>>>>mage didn't kill me. But 5 minutes later, I lost the entire party
>>>>to a pack of wolves. And when I tried to reload the save that I
>>>>made before the ogre mage, it was corrupted. I put the game on the
>>>>shelf and never looked back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have tried the game several times and make it all the way to the Inn
>>>and then get wasted. No chance to fight back. A single mage
>>>surrounded by fighters shouldn't stand a chance, but he prevails.
>>
>>Let the guards handle it and run away. Not every battle has to be fought
>>and
>>won.
>>
>>
>>>too gave up on the game and will probably never try again. It takes
>>>too long to load the game
>>
>>It shoudn't, not unless you have a sub 500MHz CPU. On my 800Mhz Duron it
>>only takes 3 or 4 seconds at most to load most areas.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Burning_Ranger
>>
>>To email: aziz@aziz1removethisbit.fsnet.co.uk
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:31:59 GMT, FTA <FTA@fake.email> wrote:

>In Gothic 1 & 2, having a drawn weapon when near someone is considered
>by them to be an aggressive act. Generally they will give your
>character a warning to put away the weapon before they attack, however
>they don't give your character much time before they do attack.
>Needless to say, beginner characters are nothing more than fresh meat
>in the Penal Colony environment that your character tries to escape
>from in Gothic 1. Gothic 2 begins a few weeks after your character
>caused the Failure of Magic Barrier that enclosed the Penal Colony,
>freeing all the prisoners trapped there...

That's a good thing then - I've never felt comfortable with the idea
that a stranger can walk into town brandishing a clearly deadly weapon
(particularly of the glowing magical variety) without getting strong
negative reactions from the populace. Arcanum is the only game I've
actually played where people dislike you for wielding weapons for no
apparent reason. Gothic is apparently another.

I >like< that in games like Morrowind where getting a favorable
response from NPCs is critical. I wouldn't mind dialogue options that
allow one to be deliberately offensive - say in Desele's in Suran for
instance. ("Boy has that dancer got great ..." might get you in
trouble for instance)