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eatoro6

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I have three build choices:
AMD FX build with expensive motherboard but with a worse processor:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NB7jhM
AMD FX build with better processor but worse motherboard:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JFpsWZ
And here is a build with an amd a series processor:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vwpsWZ
These builds are all compatible, and they all are options for what I'm going to buy. Please let me know if you have any ideas on the one I should buy or if I should sub something into one of the builds. Anything helps!
-eatoreo6
 
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Well, to start with it's not a card. It's an integrated GPU that's part of the processor. The 7850k is anywhere from 5 to 20fps faster on various gaming titles and pretty handily whips it in synthetic benchmarks as well, but the 5800k is a better choice than that A8.

If you plan to add a discreet graphics card later, it probably doesn't matter, and if you currently have any gaming card, no matter how low end, it might be better to just go with an Athlon X4 chip now that has no integrated graphics as you won't need it really. It is however possible to use the APU graphics when paired with the proper card for a dual graphics solution that improves performance much more than either one separately but from my experience often has more...
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $629.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-25 15:24 EST-0500
 
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My advice would be to wait and save up more. None of those will truly be great for games. They all have low end GPU's and low end CPU's. Save an extra $100-$200 and get a better CPU. My #1 tip to you is to never, and I repeat NEVER, cheap out on a motherboard. Changing every other component is similar to the Cold War (Easy) while a motherboard is like WWII (Hard).

Aaron
 
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Thanks Aaron, that advice helped. I will not be playing too many games on this build, as I am not a hardcore gamer. I will mostly do some casual and light gaming, so I mostly won't play those expensive PC games like skyrim or any of the far cry games. That #1 tip will definitely be something I'll remember.
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If just light gaming and office type work then the build rockie_ posted is good. You could switch the hard drive to a solid state if you wanted lightning speed but they are expensive. An alternative to that would be switching from a Blue series drive to a Black series drive. Black is faster in all applications but is slightly more expensive.

Aaron
 
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google G3258 and you ll change your mind ! that rig can run any game on Full HD or HD . Might get 4GB now and i3 4150. Later on add extra 4GB.
 
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Since you're a light to casual gamer, and don't do any "hardcore" gaming, the graphics on the A10 APU would be fine for you, no PCIe GPU needed. It can game most every title out there, including Battlefield 4 and other popular titles. Not at the highest settings or with spectacular frame rates, but well enough. Less demanding titles will play well even at higher settings.

The APU processor might not have the overall compute strength of the Intel cores, but it has a fast enough clock speed and enough computational capability per cycle to run whatever you want, fast enough for even demanding mainstream users. Enthusiasts will want a stronger Intel chip, for most people this will be far faster than their older system, regardless of platform.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus A88XM-A Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($139.93 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $634.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-25 18:02 EST-0500
 
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Actually, it's only ten bucks less, from what I'm seeing.

For the ten, or even a twenty dollar difference, I'd go with the Challenger case. It's not about the looks, it's about the build quality, internal features, number of fan locations and airflow design. The Galaxy is the bottom of the barrel offering from Rosewill and as such has much poorer features and is rather cheap and flimsy in comparison to the Challenger. But if you had to go that way, you could.

Here's another case option that might be even better and includes two additional fans to install in the front of the NZXT case since it only comes with a single rear fan. You an add two more top fans later if you want. They're not the best fans you can get, but hey, when you quibble over twenty bucks on a case I'm not going to try putting Noctua or Thermalright fans into your build. They'll work fine for a good while until you can get better ones. I actually really like the source 210 better than either of those Rosewill cases and it's a higher build quality case too:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus A88XM-A Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($139.93 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $620.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-25 20:57 EST-0500




 
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BenQ makes very good monitors. I'd put most their models above Viewsonic, HP, NEC (Non-professional class models), Phillips and many other brands. Although all those brands have good models, not all their models are good. That holds true for every manufacturer but brands like ASUS, BenQ, Yamakasi, AOC and Lenovo are almost always at least fair, and usually very good.

Take the time to find and read a PROFESSIONAL review of any monitor you're considering purchasing. If there aren't any, it's probably not that good. Reviews from places like Newegg and Amazon have to be taken with a grain of salt as most those reviewers are inexperienced with hardware to any real extent.
 
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You really don't want single sticks of RAM. You want to install matched pairs and install modules IN pairs, when possible, so they will run in dual channel mode. A single stick can't run in dual channel which doubles the memory bandwidth. So, if you want 8GB, use two 4GB matched modules. For 16 GB, use two 8GB matched modules. Conversely, you want to use as few modules as necessary to achieve dual channel, so two 8GB modules to attain 16GB is better than four 4GB modules, with two pairs each in dual channel, as four modules is a greater strain on the memory controller.

You might think that means a single 8GB module would then be even less strain than two 4GB modules, and that's correct, but using two 4GB modules isn't enough of an increase on the controller to be of any concern. Of course, since any given board might have four slots, and supports using four 4GB modules, it's still ok, it's just that using fewer modules is preferred so long as it doesn't negate the use of dual channel operation.
 
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Are you in India? That's a pretty regional model it looks like, on the monitor, and doesn't really have many reviews so it might not be a good option except as a last resort if it's all that can be fit in the budget. Hardware that isn't new or new-ish, and doesn't have any reputable online reviews is generally not good quality.
 
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No, I'm in the USA. This is actually a monitor that looks better than the BenQ one you had up there, with a 1ms response time and everything: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vx228h
And I'm wondering if this is another option for a AMD A-series build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($86.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI A88X-G43 ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($66.60 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($138.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($4.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($4.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $599.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-29 16:40 EST-0500
 
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