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Let us stop the fanboyism and acknowledge AMD's market strategy - the AVERAGE consumer not troubled by synthetic benchmark scores or maxing our Crysis. I see too much hate going on from both camps - let us make love not war. But in reality anyone who 'hates' AMD needs a friggin reality check. Intel will not be on top forever - anyone remember the Athlon series? People were sure AMD would lead the way forever after that.
 
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no problem

i agree with AMW101, i didn't know certain facts but i wasn't to trying to idolize AMD

no harm done though
 
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Not unless AMD goes under, which I doubt they will because there'll always be that 10% of the market who's fanboys and will still buy their products.
 
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LOL. the page you listed shows the 4x at 61fps while 16x is 69, ... not much difference? How do you see that with 12% on the page you listed?

Who in thier right mind is going to spend $1000+ on 2 video cards and skimp out on a cheap MB that will hinder the performance.

If you buy 2 5970 and a 1156 MB, Id say you were a complete moron. "I spent $1200 on my video cards and saved $50 on this cheap mobo"

 
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I bought Gigabyte's cheapest X58 board (the UD3R) and I got a high end video card, (at the time :na: ) the EVGA GeForce GTX 275.

And that was after going roughly $250 over my $2k budget.
 
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That is the difference at the 1024x768... if you play above 1280x1024, which anyone with a 5970 will be, the gap shrinks to below 3 FPS, I call that not much of a difference... :pfff:
 
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You need to actually read the article:

http://techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5870_PCI-Express_Scaling/25.html

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Across all games and all resolutions the difference is 5% not 12%, that was only in one game. The resolution you showed in one game was ridiculously low, but the real gaming resolutions of 1650x1050, 1920x1200, and 2560x1600 only take an 8%, 7%, and 5% performance hit respectively. None of those hits will really change the gaming experience in any tangible respect. Also the results on an LGA 1156 board would be even better since the integrated PCIe controller reduces latency and is proven to alleviate the bandwidth issue a little bit and each GPU in a 5970 will likely require less bandwidth than a full 5870 because of the lack of memory bandwidth issues.

If you are buying 2 5970s then you should probably just go for the LGA 1366 board, but having 2 5970s on an LGA 1156 board does not make someone a moron and there really is nothing wrong with it. Also the savings tend to be over $100 which can make or break a budget pretty easily.

If you're buying two 5970's the ONLY choice is 1366
Click to expand...

I was under the impression that the consumer could choose what platform they use with any graphics card as long as they were compatible, guess I was wrong...
 
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I have to agree raidur. :pfff:



Like said, you wouldn't see the difference. Can you tell the difference between 61 frames with Pci-e running at x4 and 69 frames with pci-e running at x16? That would be no.

Most people here have said it's going to take next generation or 2 of gpu's to make people worry about if the Pci-e is running at 8x or 16x. So current gpus (even the 5970's) aren't powerful enough to fully load pci-e x16 or x8 just yet.
 
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You're right. Nearly any gpu is compatible with nearly any platform (just as long as the motherboard has the slot). A p55 can run a 5970.
 
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The Pentium D 805 was a flagship CPU (800 series was the high end for LGA775 then) from Intel back in the day, was $150 and when OCed, killed a $1K Athlon FX and Intel Pentium D EE, it also OCed pretty damn high too. Does that mean you should get it instead of a Athlon X2 because it was way cheaper? Nope.
 
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lets see why the techpowerup review puts them nearly identical

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See any problems here?
Try removing the games that are messed up or cpu bottlenecked before coming up with a conclusion and I will believe the article a bit more.

Games that don't appear to hit cpu bottleneck in the review, World in Conflict, Hawx, Call of Duty 4, Company of heroes,

This is an article thats sole purpose is to try and convince you that the 1156 boards are perfect. Why else would they include 3 synthetic benchmarks that showed almost identical numbers? That keeps the total results closer, but the truth is farther from it.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3649&p=7

properly done review.
 
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+1 with AMW1011
Great post, its always cringe worthy to see a opinion from someone calling people morons when they profess to BELIEVE they know more than the engineers working for NVdia and AMD who certify these boards for SLI and Crossfire.
 
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+1
moral of the story, if you cant be objective stfu unless youre designing the stuff.
 
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Ok to clarify the argument someone on the last page was making about 1156 vs AM3 is this:

1156 will never have more than a quad core cpu. Don't argue with me on this, just look at the intel roadmap Toms hardware put up a few weeks ago.

AM3, he argues, will have Thuban (which i honestly don't think is that big of a deal) and Bulldozer (which i do think is a big deal).

There. He actually does have a point in terms on future proofing. And not too far off either.
 
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As opposed to hating intel for being a (proven) corrupt monopoly and having a strong dislike for the intel fanboy you mean?

I know which side I'd rather be on.
 
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That is your problem. You have a side. And you ALWAYS spin everything to support AMD. You can hate intel for all the crap they did. That is perfectly logical. So is a strong dislike for a Intel fanboy. But taking your dislike for what company did/does to screw everything possible. Well thats what you do.
 
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Yeah Thuban will be useless. Bulldozer may have a chance to compete, but there WILL be 32nm quads on the LGA 1156 platform, just like Bulldozer on the AM3 platform. Can you guess which I think will be faster? Thuban is the only difference between the two platforms and its already been shown that an i7 can beat an AMD six-core (referring to the server one) clock for clock thanks to hyperthreading, which you can get for $30 more than an i5 750 in the X3440 on the LGA 1156 platform.
 
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Ever considered that every single thing intel does is designed purely to hurt competition, maintain their monopoly and hold back progress?

If not, perhaps you should read up on the FTC lawsuit and see what you think after that.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/184883/faq_ftcs_lawsuit_against_intel.html

If you support intel in anything they do, you are nothing but a fool. This is the single most corrupt company on earth and they are stifling progress while fanboys lap up their overpriced chips and think they are doing the world a favour by telling us how superior intel is.
 
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Intel is a company, AMD is just as corrupt and would do the same if the tables were turned. A corporation wants one thing, to make money, that's it. A corporation will do ANYTHING to accomplish that goal. Corporations are evil and are a blight on our society for what they do and how unrestricted it is, but that doesn't mean I'm going to buy the product that fits my needs the least just because the other company owns most of the market share.
 
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