Why all the PC game bashing? PC > consoles

[Kraynor]

This is the very attitude that is killing the PC that somehow graphics make a good game. After 20 minutes you stop noticing the graphics and focus on the game play. If you want innovative PC games then expect more than some eye candy.

I couldn't agree more, why else are classics like Starcraft, CounterStrike, and Age of Empires (with the exception of III because that, in my opinion, is terrible compared to the old ones) still so popular? They're amazing games! They don't make them like they used to...

I pray for the day they bring innovation back into video games. Remember when Black & White came out? Or if you remember further back than that, Command & Conquer, Quake, Unreal Tournament, Doom, hell, Wolfenstein 3D was amazing too.

 

[BigMac]

In case of Counter Strike vs Counter Strike Source, I disagree. Counter Strike Source wins on all fronts.

Adoption of CSS was more a matter required hardware, and the fact that the new physics altered the gameplay somewhat which ticked of those people that had overspecialized on the CounterStrike 1.6 gameplay.

 

[Kraynor]

I wasn't putting CS:S and CS up against each other in terms of popularity, but CS1.6 is still very popular among lower-end users, hell I have it on my laptop which is a 1997 junkpile and play online games with a bunch of guys in my college (clan etc), good fun

 

[jimmysmitty]

Graphics don't make a good game so just because you can run ultra high resolutions doesn't make it more fun (wow factor runs out in about 20 minutes). Consoles do certain types of games very well (FPS and fighting games along with simple interface RPGs ).

However, the types of games I enjoy the most require a keyboard and mouse.
MMOs
Simulations
RTS
Turn based games (civilization for example)

The reality is the newer consoles are just PCs with a stripped down OS. They have USB ports so you can stick on a mouse and keyboard. Plenty of people run linux on them. This is where the era of computing should go instead of massive bloatware.

I tend to see that FPS games are better on the PC as the controls are much easier and more accurate. Plus a lot of the good FPS games start PC and get ported to console such as HL2, Doom3, Crysis and TF2 to name a few.

Good question tho, when are they going to port Crysis to the console?

Well the main problem here is that a X360 nor a PS3 can handle the amount of detail in Crysis. Now we all know that detail is not everything but thats one of Crysis' great features is the great graphics and physics. I make this assumption based on the GPUs that each console has and considering Crysis is currently a GPU limited game how well do you think a tweaked 7900GTX will run it a 108p resolution? Or the R500 which is still slower than a R600?

I just don't see this game being as great on the console. But if the console fanboys want it let them have it. It still wont be as fun as it is on PC.

 

[omenowl]

Actually I find as long as the game maximizes the controls that are commonly used by the platform then there are few problems. I prefer mouse and keyboard for what they allow me to do (far more than a controller), but I can still pick up a controller and play the games on any system.

My biggest complaint and one reason I preferred the xbox to the ps2 was the size of controller. Smaller controllers caused my hands to cramp. Some controllers put buttons in some of the stupidest locations. The ps3 were much better and the wii is just plain nice.

An important question is why hasn't the pc gone to some of the innovations as the consoles?

Where are the voice commands for a game? SOCOM had it, but despite almost every pc I have having a microphone or headphones there aren't any voice command games?

Where are the motion controllers (like the wii) for pcs?

Why will the iPhone have motion based games (ie spore), but the pc is stuck with ASWD controls?

The PC relies on graphics to make it better and the truth is the graphics of consoles are getting good enough to not matter to the average gamer. When the average monitor caps out below the graphics level of your game and card then maybe one should start looking towards innovation and gameplay rather than better graphics.