This is a bit misleading.Even the mighty 13900K and 7950X with all their speed and multiple cores/CCDs, still drive games by a SINGLE THREAD.
To desire an upgrade later on, is less likely from a lack of cores, but because the master thread 'is slow' or even faster ones are available... it's quite a waste, yeah?
Casual OCing isn't dead it's just changing....casual manual OCing is pretty much dead as the nature of it has changed from always beneficial to sacrificial. Extreme lives on.
Applying all core OCs on some of today's cpus, some users are shooting themselves in the foot, because that single thread may have achieved higher speeds before the OC.
Max boost clock scales with the number of active threads and not all games take advantage of 8+ threads. Adding to this, I imagine no one wants to go and enable/disable their OCs based on what game they're playing.
I don't follow how this statement is any different? If CoD: Warzone can utilize up to 12 threads, 11 of those threads still have to get their tasks from the one.While there may be one orchestrator thread that drives a game, that thread can spawn several jobs/tasks (as least in newer titles) that can make use of over a half dozen idle cores.
I wouldn't consider that casual at all... I'm referring to when folks want to dial in a new max ratio, vcore, hit apply, and probably not look at it again.There must be at least 100 different settings I can adjust, more than I've ever seen on any of my motherboards to date.
So far, I've increased my FCLK to 2167 - no downside just performance boost, lowered my RAM from CL36 to CL32 - again no downside just performance boost, and set a max PPT of 125W for the CPU - slight performance deficit but, since I play at 4K, it'll always be my GPU holding things back. CPU PPT now peaks at 127W instead of 227W - running cool and quiet.
Maybe it's what I thought you were implying(?) That having more cores, above and beyond the one required by the orchestrator thread, doesn't improve performance or make a difference.I don't follow how this statement is any different? If CoD: Warzone can utilize up to 12 threads, 11 of those threads still have to get their tasks from the one.
Casual OCers can still do exactly as you described. It just may not have the desired affect. Or it actually might. It depends on the board and the settings available.I wouldn't consider that casual at all... I'm referring to when folks want to dial in a new max ratio, vcore, hit apply, and probably not look at it again.
AMD CBS and RM goes over some users heads just as much as the bursty low load thermals do.
Maybe. More cores do make a difference, to a point. Once there's 'enough', then what? IPC, cache, and bandwidth(those unfortunate single dimm systems) are needed for more performance.Maybe it's what I thought you were implying(?) That having more cores, above and beyond the one required by the orchestrator thread, doesn't improve performance or make a difference.
Yes to this.Casual OCers can still do exactly as you described. It just may not have the desired affect.
Yeah, pretty good. The cost of boards is still in ouch territory. Need more affordable boards to go with 'em, or may as well spend the extra cash on the X SKU anyway.sorry to interrupt but Tom's just did a review on the non-x's, and there's (almost)
NO DIFFERENCE
I was curious about this and geebus. There's not a single board on PCPP that's under $200 (well, technically there's $199 boards, but who are we kidding)Yeah, pretty good. The cost of boards is still in ouch territory. Need more affordable boards to go with 'em, or may as well spend the extra cash on the X SKU anyway.
Supply chain issues are always going to be an unknown factor, which is why people here ask where the person's at so they can know what's available.Another reason someone might be an X chip right now is cause who knows when you can actually get some of these non X chips.......I have tried to find pricing and most peoples don't have any stock.
What is funny Microcenter is showing the 7900X now 519 while the 7900 NON X is 430. However I paid 438 for the 7900x. So for an 8 dollar difference I think the X version is worth it. Now with current pricing its NOT worth it.