Why are ati 6000 cards so cheap?

[demonnn]

I've been busy with school/work lately and i haven't visited any computer hardware website. I have a Ati 5850 , I was thinking of selling it to get a gtx 470 or 460 'cause i need them for the cuda(3d rendering). But i just went to newegg and I saw that ati 6800 cards are being sold :\ and they are much cheaper than 5800. How come? Do you think I will be able to sell my 5850 for 200? at CL?

Thanks

 

[ares1214]

Still not true...

Feel free to correct me, might even make my point for me.

 

[jyjjy]

Like I said earlier Nvidia charges manufacturers to make their boards SLI compatible(I believe it is $5 per board.) As such many manufacturers choose not to pay this on their lower end models. I think the LGA1366 part of your statement may actually be correct, most likely because when the boards all cost $180+ the $5 isn't really a big deal, but there are many LGA1156 boards that are crossfire but not SLI compatible.
Why you think this might prove your point(not quite sure what your point is supposed to be any more to be honest) I don't know.

 

[ares1214]

Like I said earlier Nvidia charges manufacturers to make their boards SLI compatible(I believe it is $5 per board.) As such many manufacturers choose not to pay this on their lower end models. I think the LGA1366 part of your statement may actually be correct, most likely because when the boards all cost $180+ the $5 isn't really a big deal, but there are many LGA1156 boards that are crossfire but not SLI compatible.
Why you think this might prove your point(not quite sure what your point is supposed to be any more to be honest) I don't know.

If you say something supports X, but not Y, then does that not classify as "works better on..."? BTW, im not aware of any 1156 boards that dont support Nvidia SLI, nor crossfire, care to show? You may be right, but im definitely not aware of it.

 

[jerreece]

It would be nice if they do stick the 5850 replacement as the 6950 and not do something like a 5850 => 6830 or the likes.

They already did confuse things though, by releasing a 6850 and 6870 that don't replace the 5850 and 5870. So it's too late for the hope you're hoping in. 😉

 

[ares1214]

They already did confuse things though, by releasing a 6850 and 6870 that don't replace the 5850 and 5870. So it's too late for the hope you're hoping in. 😉

For a second i thought you were talking to yourself due to the almost the same Intel symbol! :lol:

 

[jerreece]

Your right, correction, "with intel, on every single MODERN 1156/1366 board that has....."

Actually, the 1156 socket motherboards are incapable of having two fully x16 PCI-E slots because of the chipset & CPU itself. So that's part of where you're wrong.

Feel free to correct me, might even make my point for me.

Ok, to sum it up, all im getting at is with Intel, on every single board that has 2 PCI 2.0 x16 lanes, you can do both SLI and Crossfire, not the case with AMD boards, and vice versa. No matter how you word that, i count that as compatibility.

As far as 1366 boards are concerned, they should all be capable of having at least two fully x16 PCI-E slots since the actual chipset and CPU are capable of supporting them. The Crossfire & SLI does appear to be standard on all the boards listed over @ NewEgg.com anyhow. But that's looking specifically at ATX boards with two x16 lanes. There could be some Micro ATX boards that don't have two lanes though in theory.

 

[Mousemonkey]

If you say something supports X, but not Y, then does that not classify as "works better on..."? BTW, im not aware of any 1156 boards that dont support Nvidia SLI, nor crossfire, care to show? You may be right, but im definitely not aware of it.

The Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L is Crossfire only, that's one and there are others.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3502#sp

 

[ordcestus]

I have a proposal, we all take Aspirin/Tylenol/preferred painkiller for our headache. Then we find whoever at AMD who decided this was a good idea and....
(I shall let your imagination fill in the ellipses)

 

[jyjjy]

If you say something supports X, but not Y, then does that not classify as "works better on..."? BTW, im not aware of any 1156 boards that dont support Nvidia SLI, nor crossfire, care to show? You may be right, but im definitely not aware of it.

Alright. So now that you've been made aware that there are a number of Intel boards that are crossfire but not SLI I expect to hear you saying that AMD cards "work better" than Nvidia cards on Intel systems. Or you could say something that's actually accurate like crossfire compatible motherboards are more common regardless of CPU.

 

[skolpo]

The confusing 6800 naming takes the life of yet another thread. Quite an awkward fashion this time around.