Question Why are no Seasonic models included in the 2023 recommendations?

[bit_user]

Unfortunately, the comments of this article were locked from a previous iteration. Otherwise, I think this might've been asked at the time: why are no Seasonic models included?

Best Power Supplies 2023

These PSUs offer the best reliability, performance and protection for your system and its components.

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Incidentally, I'm eyeing a Corsair HX1000i that's currently selling on Newegg for $225 (after $10 instant rebate).

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-hxi-series-hx1000i-2023-1000-w/p/N82E16817139313

It's more than I currently need, but I like the iCue feature (even supported under Linux!) and it seems forward-looking to get a PSU with ATX 3.0 + PCIe 5.0. 10-year warranty, FTW!

 

[--SID--]

but I couldn’t find the vertex on the tier list, but I probably missed something.

Tier A speculative https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

 

[Order 66]

Tier A speculative https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Ok, I see it now. I still don’t understand what the speculative and low priority means. I guess speculative would mean that there isn’t much information on them, but as for low priority, I have no idea.

 

[Colif]

they have in the past acted as OEM for Corsair, Cooler Master, Antec & NZXT so they can't be too bad if other brands use them. They have been making PSU since 1981 so they one of the first makers of PSU for PC.
I thought they were the supplier to IBM but I can't find any proof.

 

[ilukey77]

just check size the corsair hx 1000 up to 1600 ( i have the older gen HX1000 still works a treat ) are 200mm long which can be a pain in some smaller cases..

Im personally looking at a 1200 to 1600w psu with a the 180mm length still looking at brands but i see no point in buying a 1000w to replace a 1000w and future proofing to a 1200 /1600 is smarter ..

Just want that 180mm only length !!

 

[Zerk2012]

I've used and recommended Seasonic made PSU's for years never had a bad one.
Still using a 10 year old G series right now in my personal PC.

To me the so called Tier list is about complete crap anything in the A/B area is fine for all users. For Order66 this list is not always up to date.

You need to look at your parts and buy a adequate PSU.

Really if your on a budget some of the more budget friendly power supplies will do fine, if your spending 3 or 4K on a PC your not going to try to save 40 bucks on a PSU anyhow.

The price of the Seasonic self branded PSU's is not as competitive as it was a few years ago.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[bit_user]

Still using a 10 year old G series right now in my personal PC.

I have one that's like 7 or 8 years old. Once I complete my new build, I will retire it from use. It's done a good job, but running these things for a multiple of the warranty period is probably asking for trouble. They do wear out.

 

[Colif]

My last two have been Seasonic, I had various reasons for not getting one last time. I think it was something about their cables. Or maybe just price.

they were one of the first things I chose when I originally made this build. I didn't even look at anyone else.

I have one as a spare now, 750watt plat. Only been used 3 years

 

[Zerk2012]

I have one that's like 7 or 8 years old. Once I complete my new build, I will retire it from use. It's done a good job, but running these things for a multiple of the warranty period is probably asking for trouble. They do wear out.

I've had a RM850 to replace it for over a year but still haven't installed it.

I have a old Corsair 850 TX v2 made by Seasonic that is still in use from a original heavily overclocked i5 2500K and Xfire 6970's.

 

[bit_user]

Is anyone aware of a PSU being put on the testbench after years of use? It would be interesting to actually see how its performance degraded.

Maybe a good subject for a new thread...

 

[Zerk2012]

Is anyone aware of a PSU being put on the testbench after years of use? It would be interesting to actually see how its performance degraded.

Maybe a good subject for a new thread...

I would also like to actually see that although it would take years to get it accurate.
Test a brand new one, test it again after 5 years with the same equipment, test it again 5 more years later, then again 5 years later if it's still alive.

Of course it would need to be used not just sitting on a shelf.

 

[bit_user]

I would also like to actually see that although it would take years to get it accurate.
Test a brand new one, test it again after 5 years with the same equipment, test it again 5 more years later, then again 5 years later if it's still alive.

Of course it would need to be used not just sitting on a shelf.

I wonder if Toms keeps the review samples they get and uses them in their benchmarking rigs. That should be at least as intensive as what the typical gamer would subject them to.

As for the test equipment, you just need a way to repeat some of the same tests, using calibrated equipment. The calibration matters more than whether it's the same equipment or not.

@JarredWaltonGPU , I think we have an article idea for you. We want to know how the performance of a PSU degrades with use. I've heard they wear out, so we're curious to see some actual metrics.

 

[Zerk2012]

I wonder if Toms keeps the review samples they get and uses them in their benchmarking rigs. That should be at least as intensive as what the typical gamer would subject them to.

As for the test equipment, you just need a way to repeat some of the same tests, using calibrated equipment. The calibration matters more than whether it's the same equipment or not.

@JarredWaltonGPU , I think we have an article idea for you. We want to know how the performance of a PSU degrades with use. I've heard they wear out, so we're curious to see some actual metrics.

Started a new thread to not hijack this any further.

Discussion - Anybody have and actual numbers of how much a power supply degrades over time.

I'm still using a 10 year old Seasonic G series. At one time I had a screen shot of how tight the power regulation was but that drive has been secured erased a few times. I know they can be a bunch of variances because of power draw and temperature over the years along with part failures. Just...

forums.tomshardware.com

 

[Colif]

Started a new thread to not hijack this any further.

changes topic title so it makes sense... I was going to fix Dies but I see you did that already.

 

[Zerk2012]

changes topic title so it makes sense... I was going to fix Dies but I see you did that already.

Thx! Yes I seen it and was like wow!