Why do PC gamers need to change their GPU almost every year and console gamers are good for many years to come.

[Ferrariassassin]

I am always hearing how PC gamers need to buy a newer extremely expensive and better GPU every year if not two times a year or more and yet a gamer does not need to do anything for 5 - 8 years and still be able to play games that pretty much look the exact same on Consoles. I agree that modding, large amounts of FPS, and a tiny bit better graphics are great PC but is it really worth the $1,000 od dollars every year just to barely be able to play modern games when a console can last 8 years and play every game PC can with no upgrades needed? How is it possible that we buy GPU`s that are thousands of times better than the GPU in the PS4 or X-ONE yet if we buy the equivalent GPU that the PS4 or X-ONE has it will would barely be able to run San Andreas (Sarcasm), lmao. I mean do not get me wrong i am a PC game and i do not hate console, i just dislike it due to the lack of freedom of what i paid for and "OWN". How do PC gamers use GPU`s that are greatly more powerful than any Console GPU yet we need to upgrade ours all the time when Consoles do not need to update their GPU and they still play the same game our high end GPU`s play when the console still has its same old crappy GPU in it playing the exact same game we are playing?? WTF! Am i missing something here??

 

[Novuake]

Between those 4 choice, the choice comes down to whether you overclock, what your resolution is, and if you mod in skyrim(in this case )

AMD R9s overclock a lot better but run hotter and louder at stock(not A LOT, but enough to be noticible).
Nvidia has PhysX where AMD has Mantle. PhysX > Mantle FOR NOW, in my opinion.

 

[Ferrariassassin]

Between those 4 choice, the choice comes down to whether you overclock, what your resolution is, and if you mod in skyrim(in this case )

AMD R9s overclock a lot better but run hotter and louder at stock(not A LOT, but enough to be noticible).
Nvidia has PhysX where AMD has Mantle. PhysX > Mantle FOR NOW, in my opinion.

I do not want to overclock so will the MSI R9-280 do good since the MSI versin is better than all other brands in the R9-280 class? I play on an Asus IPS 23.8 inch 1080p Monitor. Will the MSI R9-280 run RealVision ENB in Skyrim at least 30FPS?

 

[Novuake]

Between those 4 choice, the choice comes down to whether you overclock, what your resolution is, and if you mod in skyrim(in this case )

AMD R9s overclock a lot better but run hotter and louder at stock(not A LOT, but enough to be noticible).
Nvidia has PhysX where AMD has Mantle. PhysX > Mantle FOR NOW, in my opinion.

I do not want to overclock so will the MSI R9-280 do good since the MSI versin is better than all other brands in the R9-280 class? I play on an Asus IPS 23.8 inch 1080p Monitor. Will the MSI R9-280 run RealVision ENB in Skyrim at least 30FPS?

Not sure about RealVision, but Skyrim with a few tecture packs it will definitely do better than 30FPS.

In my opinion Sapphire has the best R9 GPUs.
But MSI makes good ones too.

 

[Ferrariassassin]

Between those 4 choice, the choice comes down to whether you overclock, what your resolution is, and if you mod in skyrim(in this case )

AMD R9s overclock a lot better but run hotter and louder at stock(not A LOT, but enough to be noticible).
Nvidia has PhysX where AMD has Mantle. PhysX > Mantle FOR NOW, in my opinion.

I do not want to overclock so will the MSI R9-280 do good since the MSI versin is better than all other brands in the R9-280 class? I play on an Asus IPS 23.8 inch 1080p Monitor. Will the MSI R9-280 run RealVision ENB in Skyrim at least 30FPS?

Not sure about RealVision, but Skyrim with a few tecture packs it will definitely do better than 30FPS.

In my opinion Sapphire has the best R9 GPUs.
But MSI makes good ones too.

Well that may be true but i am talking about "just" the R9-280 only, the MSI version has much higher performance in every aspect and also has better reviews. I never really liked sapphire, i look at it as an off brand of GPU`s but every one has their own opinion, who knows they might be great.

 

[Novuake]

They are great. Its not an opinion.
Sapphire is AMDs biggest partner, so they get higher binned chips for cheaper.

My Sapphire 2 x HD7950s Dual X (A bit older version than the R9 280s) are running at 1180Mhz each. (Up from 850MHz stock).
I can get tham to 1250MHz easily but then they run a bit hot in Crossfire, so toned it down a bit.

MSIs version will be faster if their clockrate is higher, I do not pay attention to that as I overclock myself, so guess that's why. 😀

 

[Ferrariassassin]

They are great. Its not an opinion.
Sapphire is AMDs biggest partner, so they get higher binned chips for cheaper.

My Sapphire 2 x HD7950s Dual X (A bit older version than the R9 280s) are running at 1180Mhz each. (Up from 850MHz stock).
I can get tham to 1250MHz easily but then they run a bit hot in Crossfire, so toned it down a bit.

MSIs version will be faster if their clockrate is higher, I do not pay attention to that as I overclock myself, so guess that's why. 😀

THats cool Can you explaint o me what the X means on amd cards? Like the R9 280 and the R9 280X whats the x for? lol

 

[Novuake]

Hmmm ok, the naming system is a bit confusing.

Let me try and explain simply and then more elaborately.

The X means it of a higher performance than the vanilla non-x.

For example, the R9 280 vs the R9 280x.
Even though they are based on the same physical chip, certain parts of it are disabled or "downsized" to produce a lower performing card, this is often done because the chip quality is not as high and they are unsure if the chip can handle it to be fully enable, this process is called binning and is pretty hard to explain in short. 😀

Core/stream processor count : Probably the most relevant spec if you are comparing GPUs from the SAME generation and company.

R9 280 - 1,792 stream processors.
R9 280X - 2,048 stream processors.

Clock rate, core clock and memory clock respectively. These obviously change depending on the model released an MSI and Asus and Sapphire often overclock the cards out of the factory.

R9 280 - 827 MHz / 933 MHz
R9 280x - 850 MHz / 1,000 MHz