Why do people use Watercooling? Is it worth it?

[Rogurzz]

I've seen videos of people with their PC's with overkill liquid cooling on their system. My question is, what is the actual point? Standard coolers do the same job, and it just seems to be a real waste of money regardless of overclocking or not.

I'm not talking about coolers like the H100i, i'm talking about the systems with liquid pipes and pumps all over.

 

[ThatVietGuy]

To show off or people enjoy crafting amazing systems (which I'm pretty sure is the point of a hobby).

Or, you know, it's for the better cooling capability...

 

[AmusingUserID]

Overclock more, better temps if done right, looks sweet as, mmm tubes.....

why do people pimp out their crappy cars with 10 times its value worth of bling

same reason

watercooling ant that pricey these days, if your doing multi GPU setups and overclocking its essential

 

[getochkn]

Systems with the "pipes all over" do way better than a standard cooler. You can cool the ram, motherboard, cpu, multiple gpus and keep them all 20c+ cooler than a "standard cooler". The fact that you don't really understand or know about water coolers doesn't really qualify you to determine what is "overkill".

 

[sizzling]

It used to have more point but systems dont run as hot as they used too. Like any hobby people will spend lots of money on something they like the look of. Why pay for a custom paint job on a car?

 

[Rogurzz]

Systems with the "pipes all over" do way better than a standard cooler. You can cool the ram, motherboard, cpu, multiple gpus and keep them all 20c+ cooler than a "standard cooler". The fact that you don't really understand or know about water coolers doesn't really qualify you to determine what is "overkill".

sure, but it takes A LOT of time and you need to keep maintaining it constantly.

 

[Rogurzz]

To show off or people enjoy crafting amazing systems (which I'm pretty sure is the point of a hobby).

Or, you know, it's for the better cooling capability...

I know it cools better, but even with standard coolers, it's cool enough anyway so why waste the time and effort for minimal effect on performance?

 

[AmusingUserID]

So you can run multi GPU setups with overclocks and be like this

http://imageshack.com/i/f0PNml0hj

 

[utroz]

You ask: "why watercool?" They ask: "why not watercool?"

 

[uberman]

Amusing is AmusingUserID

 

[rubix_1011]

Watercooling is just as much form as it is function.

There is a lot of incorrect information on the forums on watercooling, but there are some of us that do know what we're talking about, and most all of us will tell you to avoid a closed loop Corsair cooler and get a good air cooler if you aren't going to go with quality watercooling parts. There is a reason why those coolers are cheap - they have poor pumps and cheap radiators.

sure, but it takes A LOT of time and you need to keep maintaining it constantly.

This is absolutely incorrect.

Good watercooling performs VERY well when done right. It also doesn't require non-stop maintenance like some seem to say...you can go a year or more without doing anything to it, if you set it up correctly.

I know it cools better, but even with standard coolers, it's cool enough anyway so why waste the time and effort for minimal effect on performance?

Because 'good enough' means different things to different people. I would caution you to stop assuming that everyone on the forums shares the same opinions you do.

If you lived in a very large house and had the money to afford a very nice Mercedes, would you own one? Most likely. But it's just a car - a cheap, used Honda could do the same thing. Watercooling is the same concept - if you want something different and can afford to budget that into your build, it is your right to feel that it is important to you.

 

[Rogurzz]

Watercooling is just as much form as it is function.

There is a lot of incorrect information on the forums on watercooling, but there are some of us that do know what we're talking about, and most all of us will tell you to avoid a closed loop Corsair cooler and get a good air cooler if you aren't going to go with quality watercooling parts. There is a reason why those coolers are cheap - they have poor pumps and cheap radiators.

sure, but it takes A LOT of time and you need to keep maintaining it constantly.

This is absolutely incorrect.

Good watercooling performs VERY well when done right. It also doesn't require non-stop maintenance like some seem to say...you can go a year or more without doing anything to it, if you set it up correctly.

I know it cools better, but even with standard coolers, it's cool enough anyway so why waste the time and effort for minimal effect on performance?

Because 'good enough' means different things to different people. I would caution you to stop assuming that everyone on the forums shares the same opinions you do.

If you lived in a very large house and had the money to afford a very nice Mercedes, would you own one? Most likely. But it's just a car - a cheap, used Honda could do the same thing. Watercooling is the same concept - if you want something different and can afford to budget that into your build, it is your right to feel that it is important to you.

1) The H100i isn't cheap at all.
2) It performs very well
3) Why waste hundreds of dollars to pump water through a PC when you DONT even need it?
4) It's a waste of time.

 

[Rogurzz]

Watercooling is just as much form as it is function.

There is a lot of incorrect information on the forums on watercooling, but there are some of us that do know what we're talking about, and most all of us will tell you to avoid a closed loop Corsair cooler and get a good air cooler if you aren't going to go with quality watercooling parts. There is a reason why those coolers are cheap - they have poor pumps and cheap radiators.

sure, but it takes A LOT of time and you need to keep maintaining it constantly.

This is absolutely incorrect.

Good watercooling performs VERY well when done right. It also doesn't require non-stop maintenance like some seem to say...you can go a year or more without doing anything to it, if you set it up correctly.

I know it cools better, but even with standard coolers, it's cool enough anyway so why waste the time and effort for minimal effect on performance?

Because 'good enough' means different things to different people. I would caution you to stop assuming that everyone on the forums shares the same opinions you do.

If you lived in a very large house and had the money to afford a very nice Mercedes, would you own one? Most likely. But it's just a car - a cheap, used Honda could do the same thing. Watercooling is the same concept - if you want something different and can afford to budget that into your build, it is your right to feel that it is important to you.

I hate the look of Mercedes so no. In fact, Bill Gates did an AMA on Reddit and he stated he just buys ordinary stuff.

 

[AmusingUserID]

Watercooling is just as much form as it is function.

There is a lot of incorrect information on the forums on watercooling, but there are some of us that do know what we're talking about, and most all of us will tell you to avoid a closed loop Corsair cooler and get a good air cooler if you aren't going to go with quality watercooling parts. There is a reason why those coolers are cheap - they have poor pumps and cheap radiators.

sure, but it takes A LOT of time and you need to keep maintaining it constantly.

This is absolutely incorrect.

Good watercooling performs VERY well when done right. It also doesn't require non-stop maintenance like some seem to say...you can go a year or more without doing anything to it, if you set it up correctly.

I know it cools better, but even with standard coolers, it's cool enough anyway so why waste the time and effort for minimal effect on performance?

Because 'good enough' means different things to different people. I would caution you to stop assuming that everyone on the forums shares the same opinions you do.

If you lived in a very large house and had the money to afford a very nice Mercedes, would you own one? Most likely. But it's just a car - a cheap, used Honda could do the same thing. Watercooling is the same concept - if you want something different and can afford to budget that into your build, it is your right to feel that it is important to you.

1) The H100i isn't cheap at all.
2) It performs very well
3) Why waste hundreds of dollars to pump water through a PC when you DONT even need it?
4) It's a waste of time.

Dude, you fighting a loosing battle here , there's plenty reason to do custom loops. H100i is a cheap as piece of kit, these AOI coolers hold about as much water as a shot glass. The real thing is far superior plus looks bad ass

https://imageshack.com/i/id8DzB7Kj

 

[Rogurzz]

Watercooling is just as much form as it is function.

There is a lot of incorrect information on the forums on watercooling, but there are some of us that do know what we're talking about, and most all of us will tell you to avoid a closed loop Corsair cooler and get a good air cooler if you aren't going to go with quality watercooling parts. There is a reason why those coolers are cheap - they have poor pumps and cheap radiators.

sure, but it takes A LOT of time and you need to keep maintaining it constantly.

This is absolutely incorrect.

Good watercooling performs VERY well when done right. It also doesn't require non-stop maintenance like some seem to say...you can go a year or more without doing anything to it, if you set it up correctly.

I know it cools better, but even with standard coolers, it's cool enough anyway so why waste the time and effort for minimal effect on performance?

Because 'good enough' means different things to different people. I would caution you to stop assuming that everyone on the forums shares the same opinions you do.

If you lived in a very large house and had the money to afford a very nice Mercedes, would you own one? Most likely. But it's just a car - a cheap, used Honda could do the same thing. Watercooling is the same concept - if you want something different and can afford to budget that into your build, it is your right to feel that it is important to you.

1) The H100i isn't cheap at all.
2) It performs very well
3) Why waste hundreds of dollars to pump water through a PC when you DONT even need it?
4) It's a waste of time.

Dude, you fighting a loosing battle here , there's plenty reason to do custom loops. H100i is a cheap as piece of kit, these AOI coolers hold about as much water as a shot glass. The real thing is far superior plus looks bad ass

https://imageshack.com/i/id8DzB7Kj

Dude, it may look cool, but be real here. It really doesn't do much for the PC itself other than decreasing temps. Also, that guy is a world class over-clocker so that is completely irrelevant as the average consumer isn't going to use liquid nitrogen to cool their CPUs are they?

And theres a good risk of water leaking which can just plain **** up your PC.

So, your point being what?

Language was edited by rubix_1011.

 

[rubix_1011]

1) The H100i isn't cheap at all.
2) It performs very well
3) Why waste hundreds of dollars to pump water through a PC when you DONT even need it?
4) It's a waste of time.

1. Yes, $130 for a single cooler is cheap in the grand scheme of things. Watercooling pumps alone usually cost almost this much.
2. No, it does not perform very well. But, your idea of 'very well' and mine are likely quite different.
3. Because people enjoy it, and for those who wish to overclock very high, it's almost a necessity if you know what you're doing.
4. Hardly a waste of time, but then again, your idea of a waste of time and mine are likely quite different.

This comes down to personal preference and you really have no right to tell someone else that their opinions are wrong since they don't align with yours.

It really doesn't do much for the PC itself other than decreasing temps.

This is the ENTIRE point of doing it.

And theres a good risk of water leaking which can just plain **** up your PC.

So, your point being what?

Not really. But if you're that afraid, you shouldn't be doing it anyway.

 

[Rogurzz]

1) The H100i isn't cheap at all.
2) It performs very well
3) Why waste hundreds of dollars to pump water through a PC when you DONT even need it?
4) It's a waste of time.

1. Yes, $130 for a single cooler is cheap in the grand scheme of things. Watercooling pumps alone usually cost almost this much.
2. No, it does not perform very well. But, your idea of 'very well' and mine are likely quite different.
3. Because people enjoy it, and for those who wish to overclock very high, it's almost a necessity if you know what you're doing.
4. Hardly a waste of time, but then again, your idea of a waste of time and mine are likely quite different.

This comes down to personal preference and you really have no right to tell someone else that their opinions are wrong since they don't align with yours.

It really doesn't do much for the PC itself other than decreasing temps.

This is the ENTIRE point of doing it.

And theres a good risk of water leaking which can just plain **** up your PC.

So, your point being what?

Not really. But if you're that afraid, you shouldn't be doing it anyway.

Pumps can leak regardless of wether it was installed correctly or not. So everybody is at risk.

 

[AmusingUserID]

Dude, you're clutching at straws, people get run over, does that stop you crossing roads.

 

[rubix_1011]

I've never had a pump leak, ever. Most custom loop leaks are due to user/installation error, not failing components. Even most closed loop coolers these days don't leak like the first versions did...and even those were relatively rare.

This fear of 'leaking' all over your PC is far more misunderstanding by those who don't watercool in the first place - it is actually a version of fear mongering. It is always blown out of proportion by people who have no experience in the hobby themselves.

 

[Rogurzz]

I've never had a pump leak, ever. Most custom loop leaks are due to user/installation error, not failing components. Even most closed loop coolers these days don't leak like the first versions did...and even those were relatively rare.

This fear of 'leaking' all over your PC is far more misunderstanding by those who don't watercool in the first place - it is actually a version of fear mongering. It is always blown out of proportion by people who have no experience in the hobby themselves.

This is false. JayTwoCents had a $6500 PC which leaked and wrecked it.

 

[AmusingUserID]

Here you go, you might want this next time you pop down the shops:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jsp-evo2-mid-peak-slip-ratchet-vented-safety-helmet-white/82789

 

[Rogurzz]

Here you go, you might want this next time you pop down the shops:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jsp-evo2-mid-peak-slip-ratchet-vented-safety-helmet-white/82789

Reason being?

 

[Rolfejc0]

I would say a lot of people liquid cool their PC either because they think that liquid cooling is better or it looks "cool." The best liquid coolers are also very good options, which is another reason why someone might liquid cool their high end PC.

 

[rubix_1011]

This is false. JayTwoCents had a $6500 PC which leaked and wrecked it.

That is not false - I also did not say it was impossible or never happens, but the relative possibility of it actually happening is very, very low.

I would be curious what occurred with this scenario - do you have a specific link to this?

I would also caution that reading a handful of 'issues' online doesn't give you the other percentages of loops that perform as they should.

It comes down to this - if you are too afraid of the very minute risks, then don't do it. Otherwise, it is a very rewarding hobby and I strongly suggest anyone reading this that sits on the fence about leaks and PC damage should do much more research and more inquiries with those who have been doing it for many years. Listening to those who have never watercooled before and making a big deal about 'destruction' and leaks isn't the best arena of information.

 

[Rogurzz]

This is false. JayTwoCents had a $6500 PC which leaked and wrecked it.

That is not false - I also did not say it was impossible or never happens, but the relative possibility of it actually happening is very, very low.

I would be curious what occurred with this scenario - do you have a specific link to this?

I would also caution that reading a handful of 'issues' online doesn't give you the other percentages of loops that perform as they should.

It comes down to this - if you are too afraid of the very minute risks, then don't do it. Otherwise, it is a very rewarding hobby and I strongly suggest anyone reading this that sits on the fence about leaks and PC damage should do much more research and more inquiries with those who have been doing it for many years. Listening to those who have never watercooled before and making a big deal about 'destruction' and leaks isn't the best arena of information.

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