Why does it appear everyone is anti-nintendo?

[dekay]

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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sat, 12 Feb
2005 10:28:37 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk Ash <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca>
fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>OMFG!!! Don't you jave anything better to do than memorize old console
>specs and point out *minor* technical inaccuracies? Let me rephrase this:

I don't "memorise", I just remember. I collect old games and consoles, so
it's likely I pick up stuff like that.

>You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I mean
>to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but they
>did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles. Fer
>crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
>variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
>nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR consoles.

So unless it's popular, it didn't happen? Best get down the patent office
then with "my" inventions then.

deKay
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"Ash" <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I mean
> to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but they
> did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles. Fer
> crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
> variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
> nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR consoles.

Wrong again, ashey boy. Magnavox (Odyssey2,) GCE (Vectrex) and Atari (5200)
brought analog sticks to popular consoles decades before Nintendo put them
on the UNpopular N64.

 

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"Donald Richter" <GrGoblin@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> "Ash" <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> >
> > You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I
mean
> > to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but
they
> > did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles.
Fer
> > crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
> > variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
> > nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR
consoles.
>
> Wrong again, ashey boy. Magnavox (Odyssey2,) GCE (Vectrex) and Atari
(5200)
> brought analog sticks to popular consoles decades before Nintendo put
them
> on the UNpopular N64.

Where they popular mainstream consoles?

 

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"Donald Richter" <GrGoblin@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Wrong again, ashey boy. Magnavox (Odyssey2,) GCE (Vectrex) and Atari
(5200)
> brought analog sticks to popular consoles decades before Nintendo put them
> on the UNpopular N64.

Hmmm...well, firstly, the N64 sold more than all three of those consoles
combined, about 30 million units worldwide--more than the Gamecube or Xbox
will sell by the time their successors arrive, most likely. So it was
hardly "unpopular". Whereas the three consoles you named were all nearly
stillborn by comparison. None of them ever enjoyed sales in the millions,
or anything approaching the N64's 30-40% marketshare.

Secondly, modern "analog" joysticks, which Nintendo pioneered on the N64,
are very different from those old analog joysticks in two important ways.
First, they're digital, not really analog. They are functionally analog
because they're basically made up of hundreds of digital buttons. Secondly,
they're thumbsticks, not joysticks. Just as Nintendo invented the d-pad as
a thumb-manipulated device to miniaturize the handheld digital joystick,
they invented the 'analog' thumbpad for the N64 to miniaturize the age-old
analog handheld joysticks which are still around to this day (in both true
analog and digital analog form).

 

[Ash]

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They're only popular because people still remember them Why do they
remember them? Because there weren't any other consoles around.

 

[Ash]

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deKay wrote:
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sat, 12 Feb
> 2005 10:28:37 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
> uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk Ash <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca>
> fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>
>
>>OMFG!!! Don't you jave anything better to do than memorize old console
>>specs and point out *minor* technical inaccuracies? Let me rephrase this:
>
>
> I don't "memorise", I just remember. I collect old games and consoles, so
> it's likely I pick up stuff like that.
>
>
>>You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I mean
>>to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but they
>>did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles. Fer
>>crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
>>variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
>>nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR consoles.
>
>
> So unless it's popular, it didn't happen? Best get down the patent office
> then with "my" inventions then.
>
> deKay
No. It means that unless it's popular, NO ONE CARES.

 

[dekay]

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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 13 Feb
2005 13:55:00 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk Ash <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca>
fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>>>You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I mean
>>>to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but they
>>>did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles. Fer
>>>crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
>>>variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
>>>nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR consoles.
>>
>>
>> So unless it's popular, it didn't happen? Best get down the patent office
>> then with "my" inventions then.
>>
>No. It means that unless it's popular, NO ONE CARES.

I care. I expect Nolan Bushnall cares.

deKay
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some points

nintendo invented nothing, they adopted and developed existing
technology and brought it to thier very high market share.

Odyssey2 did not have analogue joysticks, it had very loose digital,
that felt like analogue.it doesnt make any odds if the stick was to be
used by your thumb on nintendo or hand, analogue sticks were around in
the 70s my biantone TVgame had one. if I shove it up my backside and
wiggle doesnt make it a new control method.


Game and watch were far from the fist handhelds, that point was made
before on the thread had it been read through (cart based was the
microvision) non cart based...take your pick, you could class MB Simon
as a hand held computer game, or Einstien.for more arcade you only need
look at the grandstand or CGL stuff, long befor nintendo's efforts.

30 million N64s is unpopular compared to other nintendo efforts
http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?funfacts/stat.htm

Virtualy no piracy issues certainly not to be accredited to nintendo..
they may be forefront at the moment, but many consoles have had 99%
piracy free over the years, and only today as the games are no longer
economicaly viable have bin files and copies arived for collectors,
games piracy was virtualy unheard of before the 1984 home computer
evolution, so any console prior to that.. colecovision, Videopac, Atari

DPAD, again D-pad is not an invention, its an evolution, 2 way rocker
switches existed on quite a few of the old handhelds, a 4way rocker
switch does not constitute an invention,and as I recolect, there was
another 10sport TVgame that used the dame principle, and had a scew in
stick atop, again from the 70s, but I can remeber which one.

get it out of your head the N invent things, they dont, nore have they
broke ground any more than any other company, they aint hero's, they do
it to make money, they develop..
then somone else takes it a step further..
then they take the next step.
and on it goes.

They have invented nothing, they have however developed things very
well. cudos to them

 

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"Cullen Skink" <news-groups@REMOVETHISTOEMAILntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Donald Richter" <GrGoblin@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> > "Ash" <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I
> mean
> > > to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but
> they
> > > did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles.
> Fer
> > > crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
> > > variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
> > > nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR
> consoles.
> >
> > Wrong again, ashey boy. Magnavox (Odyssey2,) GCE (Vectrex) and Atari
> (5200)
> > brought analog sticks to popular consoles decades before Nintendo put
> them
> > on the UNpopular N64.
>
> Where they popular mainstream consoles?

Yes.

 

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"Ash" <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> They're only popular because people still remember them Why do they
> remember them? Because there weren't any other consoles around.

Wrong again, ashey boy. Odyssey2 competed with the Atari 2600, Arcadia
2001and Fairchild Channel F. Atari 5200 and Vectrex competed with the
ColecoVision. You probably don't remember those because you weren't born
yet.

 

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Ash wrote:
> deKay wrote:
>
>> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sat,
>> 12 Feb
>> 2005 10:28:37 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
>> uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk Ash
>> <furroash@nb.sympatico.ca>
>> fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>>
>>
>>> OMFG!!! Don't you jave anything better to do than memorize old
>>> console specs and point out *minor* technical inaccuracies? Let me
>>> rephrase this:
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't "memorise", I just remember. I collect old games and
>> consoles, so
>> it's likely I pick up stuff like that.
>>
>>
>>> You're correct. I took the original question and expanded on it. I mean
>>> to say, Nintendo might not have invented some of those things, but they
>>> did play a key role in bringing them to MAINSTREAM, MODERN consoles.
>>> Fer crying out loud, Analog sticks are just a stick connected to two
>>> variable resistors. Any asswipe with half a brain could make one, but
>>> nintendo was credited (key word) with bringing them to POPULAR consoles.
>>
>> So unless it's popular, it didn't happen? Best get down the patent
>> office
>> then with "my" inventions then.
>>
>
> No. It means that unless it's popular, NO ONE CARES.

The old Binatone MK10 I used to play on must have been popular at the
time, otherwise I can't see any reason for my mum & dad to have bought
it - they're hardly technology buffs.

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