Wi-Fi not working, but internet does.

Devuh

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My Wi-Fi randomly stopped working one night. The internet works fine through Ethernet. My modem/router combo is a Motorola SURFboard SBG6782-AC. It is a dual band router, using both 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies at once. The reason I mentioned it, was that the 5GHz works, but not the 2.4GHz. I have multiple game consoles, a laptop, and table that use the 2.4GHz. i know the 5GHz works, because thats what our smartphones run off of. And help figuring out why the 2.4GHz would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I've been researching for a week and still cant find anything.
 
If it just failed, and nobody was in the routers control panel changing setting, My first thought is it failed.
Lightning takes them out all the time.
And yes sometime only part of them.

I would go into the control panel and make sure the settings are still set for both 5GHz and 2.4GHz, and not just 5GHz.

Isn't it supplied by the cable company, anyway.
 


I dont know if this makes a difference, but im on windows 8. I cant change any settings for the router. But I did got to the routers ip to see the settings.. everything was the same before i changed it the factory reset. And all of the settings are still the same. Also, I dont know what you mean by "Isn't it supplied by the cable company, anyway."
 


I have time warner, they charger you for using their router, so i bought my own. I cant just return it, I also just bought this modem new for about 200$ so im not going to get a new one. I just need to fix this problem.
 




 
Basically, the problem is in the channels your 2.4g wireless router uses. Literally every electrical device in your house, and your neighbors house, and their neighbor's house, uses devices that compete on the 2.4 frequency (cordless phones, some cell phones, and of course other 2.4 routers ... even microwaves compete). There are two solutions to try, but both require accessing your router (there's also a 3rd option, but you're not going to like it). You have to gain access to your router somehow, (find out the password, reset it, ask the internet for details on how to gain admin access, etc.) . Anyways, here are the two solutions:

1) Splitting your 2.4g wifi band from your 5g band: You gotta create a different name for your 2.4g and 5g wifis ... for instance name one "Tom Hardeware's wifi" and the other "Tom Hardeware's 5g wifi". How you do this will differ for each router, but look around in your router's settings, and hopefully you'll find it (it'll be in the same page where you name your router and set its password). Setting up a separate wifi for both bands is the entire reason you get a dual-band router, because it allows devices that can access 5g to get the band with the least amount of interference (this includes mostly smart-phones, and certain laptops and wireless adapters). Making this little change will practically guarantee that your 5g wifi will be accessible, even if your 2.4g is being drowned out with interference.

2) Trying to get your 2.4g band to work. Solution #1 might fix your problem, and if it does, who cares if your 2.4g is getting drowned out by competition? But, alas, not all cell phones, wireless adapters, and laptops work on both bands. Getting a device that works on both bands is usually more expensive, just as is a router that works on both bands. Anyways, as mentioned before, the 2.4g frequency is CROWDED. Thankfully, there's a slight hope to get it to work by simply switching channels. 2.4g routers transmit through 11 channels, and you can select which one you want, in the hope of finding a channel that is less "crowded". Unfortunately, the way a router works is that it automatically transmits for that one channel, and a couple of channels above and below, which means a router in channel 1 can still interfere with a router in channel 2. It's widely advised that you try channels 1, 6, or 11, to ensure that you're putting as much distance as possible between your channel, and the other widely used channels. If you're unsure which channels to try, there's some pretty neat apps called something like "wifi analyzer" that can tell you what channel the other routers in you area are transmitting at, so that you can pick the open one. But again, trying the channels in between 1, 6, and 11 (such as 4, 8, or whatever), will likely interfere with routers transmitting at channels both above and below ... so even if it looks "free", it really isn't.

3) Your crazy ideas haven't worked ... what does this mean!?!? ....
... Well ... simply ... your screwed. Weather you know it or not, you're in a wifi war with your neighbors (who are likely eating up all available 2.4g channels) ... aaaaaand you're losing that war (this is especially likely if you live in a dense housing area). Their routers are more powerful, their handheld phones are newer, and they put more $$ than you did into the newest and best tech. Don't take it personally, they probably don't even know that there was a war, and that they won that war. Thankfully, there's still possible solutions. You could talk to your neighbors, and try to organize a plan on who takes which channels (1st floors get chan 1, 2nds get chan 6, etc.). If you really trust your neighbors and can get along with them well enough to share bandwidth, you could also try sharing wifis (you'll also save $$ because you won't need to buy internet, but I would highly suggest against this, since you'll be sacrificing control over your own internet security). But ya, when you're in a war, negotiations and sharing don't always work ... so there's always the obnoxious option. Buy a new router that transmits a 2.4g signal even louder and more powerful than theirs. You'll get your internet, and there's a good chance you block theirs out at the same time. Then they'll be the one's coming here and asking "why did my wifi suddenly stop working!?!?" while you watch your favorite netflix melo-drama, while laughing all the way. Ahh, revenge could be sweet ... if it works.
 
I'm using the Motorola SURFboard eXtreme SBG6782-AC and am experiencing the same problem with my 2.4 GHz network.

Thanks for taking the time to map out a detailed solution; unfortunately it didn't seem to help the issue on my end. I had already separately named the 2.4 GHz and the 5 GHz networks, so I passed over step one. Step 2 seemed like it fit my situation; I do live in a densely populated area (currently 19 wifi signals in range). After logging into the router and finding where to change the setting, I did notice that the router was informing me that some channels had "severe" interference, while others where shown as "acceptable." Four channels were "acceptable," including the original channel it was set too. Regardless, I changed it to each channel, made sure my output strength was set to 100%, and checked to see if my computer or two smartphones could detect the signal - no luck. On to step 3...

While I can't rule out that others may have some equipment better than mine; I did buy the most powerful router (really overkill for what I needed) when I made the purchase a year ago. The equipment that Comcast provided wouldn't even allow me to change the wifi channels, nor do any port forwarding. With that said, I'm fairly confident in my router's ability to hold its own with our neighbors competition.

As with lightning, we haven't had any electrical storms for 2 weeks. This doesn't rule out that it was a power surge; however, I do not have any other issues with any of the numerous electrical devices throughout the house. Plus, it does have a power surge protector (not sure on the stats for that device though).

Hope its not a defect
 
That's just it you can't resolve the Issue.
In the best of situations WiFi is not a reliable connection.
5GHz is supposed to help with crowded networks.
One thing that MagicChicken alluded to, and I'd like to reinforce is, there are only 3 channels.

Basically if you are on channel 1 you are not only on the same channel as everyone else on channel 1, But the people on channel 2,3, and I think 4, are also on the same channel with you.

If you have 19 neighbors using 2.5GHz you are all sharing 3 channels.