Will a amd fx 8350 cpu bottleneck a r9 290 gpu?

[RowdyNeil]

Need to know for a gaming PC build.

 

[madmatt30]

Who really wants a constant 99% GPU performance especially if running on a 60htz screen??
Its for bragging rights only ,

An 8350+290 is going to push 60fps on 99 % of games if vsync'd at 60-70% CPU & gpu usage - that's enough in my opinion.

Bottlenecking talk irritates me immensely :-/

 

[jkteddy77]

First of all, your videos are not benchmarks. All the essential information are either missing or done wrong. There are professional benchmarks out there if you're to make an argument or comparison. Obviously, you're having trouble with your system to begin with. Thus, your case is the exception rather than the rule. Start a new thread to discuss your problems, don't high jack this one. Furthermore, if you really want to benchmark on youtube, then start with screen recording rather than a hand held. Also, use creditable software, such as CPU-Z, AOD, MSI afterburner etc, instead of windows task manager. You should post your specs and settings as well.

Second, the Haswell i7s and the Fx-8350 are of different tiers entirely. The 4790k being $240 USD while the 8350 is $170. It is pointless to compare the two. The i7 is hardly worth the money if you're gaming. The i5-4690k will do just fine when games don't generally take advantage of the extra threads.

Alright, where do I start here after you have completely and utterly picked me apart when I am just trying to help others often mislead by very many misconceptions believed around this topic.

Why did I not show off "officially performed and professionally recorded" benchmarks?
Because bottlenecks DO NOT often show up in GPU and CPU stress tests. They show up in games that aren't always perfectly optimized for such surgical testing.
All you prove with a benchmark is "Yes, this combination can run this precision benchmark". Chances are the person buying this combination or any combination of hardware could care less about how their PC would run said benchmark. They want to be able to spend hours playing their favorite games.

I did not make those videos to look professional, I made them to share footage with the community. I am not looking to make a benchmarking channel... Not sure why you're even criticizing me about my video content, when there was plenty of data in the video to support my theory here.
I WAS using GPU-Z, and the task manager's information was just enough, not sure why precision per-core, per-clock results were needed... The GPU usage was clearly dropping in GPU-Z, and that alone is a large red-flag often symbolizing bottlenecking. I also quite clearly brought up the settings in all 3 videos I believe. This wasn't a court case, those I was trying to help could certainly take my word for it if I had forgotten to bring up the settings in one video. I was certainly not attempting to deface my own computer's performance here...

Just like everyone else I meet that is denying that the parts can conflict, you are blaming this performance up to my "User error". I can assure you this system was operating wonderfully.
I was reaching average to above-average benchmark scores in comparison to every "official and professionally recorded" benchmark score I could find. I was in the above average section of 3Dmark's latest benchmark tests for the time. I can link you my old results as soon as 3Dmark comes back online, as they were doing site upgrades at the time of me writing this.

That IS all you seem to care about right, benchmark scores?
So no, I wasn't "Obviously having issues with my PC already". What an ignorant statement...

I can assure you I quite thoroughly tested my PC over a stretch of literally months, tried every driver version available, multiple BIOS versions and many complete system reinstalls, hot fixes, core-unparking, certain overcook speeds and clock settings for my CPU, GPU, RAM. Several versions of Windows, updates, and packages.
I swapped every part in my computer, and I mean EVERY part. Different 290, different 8350, several different motherboards. They all behaved the same.
I could go on, but chances are you won't change your mind about my system if you haven't already.

Benchmark scores do not often uncover this likely bottleneck, it is programs in real-world action that do. Allow me to explain.
Benchmarks are nearly perfectly optimized for accurate results every time, and while most are built similarly to a running video game, they are very CPU and GPU optimized, even though they are purposefully stressing.

Games on the other hand aren't always so perfectly optimized for all hardware.
THAT is why the reason I recorded some real-world gameplay that was NOT surgically and precisely recorded.
I don't know about you, but when I'm playing a game, I'm not walking some precise course while I'm playing like you see people do in benchmarks.
THAT is why I recorded some actual playtime. It's not a precision test, it's a real-world test, and that is what people want to know if this combination is good for.

Did you know CPU's do NOT need to reach 100% usage to create a bottleneck. All it really needs is for a game or software to incorrectly or not fully utilize a CPU's total performance to create one., and that is likely what often happened with this oddly and uniquely manufactured 8-core CPU that didn't see absolute support out of the gate. Sure time has gone by, and games are being better optimized for it, but CPU overhead still seems to exist when paired with higher-end graphics cards.

I do not need to create my own thread sir, and I certainly am not "highjacking" a thread by simply throwing in my input and perspective. I am simply trying to help others so they don't get stuck in the same situation I was 2 years ago with this hardware combination.
Are you worried I'm somehow stealing your limelight Mr. "CPU authority"
Now I must ask, have you ever built a PC with this combination of specifications? It's very rude to accuse someone who may have valid explanations when you yourself have no personal experience with the issue.

Saying "You'll be fine" isn't helping others like all other threads I see, and no amount of overclocking of the 8350 solved anything. Believing one can overclock their way out of a potential bottleneck is a fool's dream. You can increase your CPU performance to some extent, but more times than ever, the bottleneck will still be there, just not quite as apparent. Again, I would know.

The last part of your message got me the most... I am not trying to say an I7 is the only option???
Of course they're in different tiers, but that isn't the issue now is it. That was never the purpose of my post.
This is a thread for those wondering whether the 8350 itself will bottle with the R9 290. That is exactly what I conversed about.
I have an i7, I was stating my combination worked. I NEVER recommended a person had to buy an i7 with their R9 290.

I CLEARLY recommended anybody buy an i5 over the 8350 for their R9 290... CLEARLY did.
If you can live with bottled performance to cut money, grab an 8350, but I highly recommend an i5 over one anyday

Did you not even take the time to read my entire post at all?
Why have I wasted so much time replying to you at all...