Will my computer bottleneck the gtx 1080? Will it even Handle it ?

[Seeda]

Hi
I want to upgrade my gtx 960 to the new gtx 1080 but I don't know if my system will have problems with it...
Here's my specs:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 4gb

8gb ram

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit

Motherboard: gigabyte h81m-d2v

BTW I'm using a 1920x1080 monitor

Will I have to change some of my hardware? And what will I have to change?

 

[Supahos]

At that resolution id just buy a 1070 and save some money.

 

[Seeda]

At that resolution id just buy a 1070 and save some money.

Ok thank you, will my pc handle the 1070?

 

[sshortguy1]

an i5 is kinda slow for the gpu , if I was you I would upgrade to a i7 processor , you would be definitely bottlenecking the pc you processor will be too slow , I have a i7 4790 processor and its running alittle slow and i'm using a gtx 1080

 

[Seeda]

an i5 is kinda slow for the gpu , if I was you I would upgrade to a i7 processor , you would be definitely bottlenecking the pc you processor will be too slow , I have a i7 4790 processor and its running alittle slow and i'm using a gtx 1080

Can you recomend a good i7 processor that's not too expensive?

 

[J_E_D_70]

No - your CPU will not limit a 1070 or even 1080 in any meaningful way, especially at 1080p. It could be an issue if you SLI but not single card.

 

[Seeda]

No - your CPU will not limit a 1070 or even 1080 in any meaningful way, especially at 1080p. It could be an issue if you SLI but not single card.

Thanks!, but sshortguy1 saied the opposite, how can i know whos right..

 

[MrLehi99]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that you absolutely have to buy an i7, though it can help if you play exceedingly CPU intensive games. I would just buy an overclockable core i5 and set it up at about 4.4 to 4.6 GHz. your only real option is the 4690K since you have an LGA 1150 motherboard. You're looking at about $225-$240 depending on where you buy the CPU. if you want a non OC i7 the cheapest relatively fast i7 will be the 4790S, but at the price it sells for it's kind of a no-brainer at that point to step up to the 4790K and OC the hell out of it for $35 more at $340 on average. Your upgrade path at this point is relatively limited and will at the least be $230 for a K SKU i5. Edit: I just did some research on your motherboard and realized that it may not be able to overclock. I would get a regular 4790 if this is the case as getting a 4790K would work, but it would never be able to be overclocked, unless you want that extra 400MHz. To overclock you need a Z97 motherboard, which would also require you to reinstall your OS since you would have changed hardware. This could be a real headache in the long run unless you have fun working with computers.

 

[Seeda]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that you absolutely have to buy an i7, though it can help if you play exceedingly CPU intensive games. I would just buy an overclockable core i5 and set it up at about 4.4 to 4.6 GHz. your only real option is the 4690K since you have an LGA 1150 motherboard. You're looking at about $225-$240 depending on where you buy the CPU. if you want a non OC i7 the cheapest relatively fast i7 will be the 4790S, but at the price it sells for it's kind of a no-brainer at that point to step up to the 4790K and OC the hell out of it for $35 more at $340 on average. Your upgrade path at this point is relatively limited and will at the least be $230 for a K SKU i5. Edit: I just did some research on your motherboard and realized that it may not be able to overclock. I would get a regular 4790 if this is the case as getting a 4790K would work, but it would never be able to be overclocked, unless you want that extra 400MHz. To overclock you need a Z97 motherboard, which would also require you to reinstall your OS since you would have changed hardware. This could be a real headache in the long run unless you have fun working with computers.

So "Intel Core i7-4790 Haswell Tray" is that it?

 

[J_E_D_70]

My cpu is a generation behind yours and about 10% slower clock-for-clock. I do have a middling overclock which puts me a bit ahead of you. I'm hitting the same frame rates in games at 1440p that I'm seeing from benches at review sites with much higher end CPUs. I'm very confident in saying you'll not notice the few frames you might lose on a 1070 at 1080p.

Save what you'd spend on the cpu for a whole new cpu/mobo/ram in another year or two.

 

[sizzling]

Are you running 1080p @ 60Hz or 120/144Hz? For 60Hz even a 1070 is a little over the top, absolutely no need for a 1080 unless you plan to go 1440p 144Hz in the future. Your CPU will do very well and any gain from upgrading wouldn't be great and not worth the cost

 

[sshortguy1]

No - your CPU will not limit a 1070 or even 1080 in any meaningful way, especially at 1080p. It could be an issue if you SLI but not single card.

Thanks!, but sshortguy1 saied the opposite, how can i know whos right..

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that you absolutely have to buy an i7, though it can help if you play exceedingly CPU intensive games. I would just buy an overclockable core i5 and set it up at about 4.4 to 4.6 GHz. your only real option is the 4690K since you have an LGA 1150 motherboard. You're looking at about $225-$240 depending on where you buy the CPU. if you want a non OC i7 the cheapest relatively fast i7 will be the 4790S, but at the price it sells for it's kind of a no-brainer at that point to step up to the 4790K and OC the hell out of it for $35 more at $340 on average. Your upgrade path at this point is relatively limited and will at the least be $230 for a K SKU i5. Edit: I just did some research on your motherboard and realized that it may not be able to overclock. I would get a regular 4790 if this is the case as getting a 4790K would work, but it would never be able to be overclocked, unless you want that extra 400MHz. To overclock you need a Z97 motherboard, which would also require you to reinstall your OS since you would have changed hardware. This could be a real headache in the long run unless you have fun working with computers.

So "Intel Core i7-4790 Haswell Tray" is that it?

mr lehi99 just told you I would help and to tell u the truth you will be bottlenecking the pc

 

[sshortguy1]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that you absolutely have to buy an i7, though it can help if you play exceedingly CPU intensive games. I would just buy an overclockable core i5 and set it up at about 4.4 to 4.6 GHz. your only real option is the 4690K since you have an LGA 1150 motherboard. You're looking at about $225-$240 depending on where you buy the CPU. if you want a non OC i7 the cheapest relatively fast i7 will be the 4790S, but at the price it sells for it's kind of a no-brainer at that point to step up to the 4790K and OC the hell out of it for $35 more at $340 on average. Your upgrade path at this point is relatively limited and will at the least be $230 for a K SKU i5. Edit: I just did some research on your motherboard and realized that it may not be able to overclock. I would get a regular 4790 if this is the case as getting a 4790K would work, but it would never be able to be overclocked, unless you want that extra 400MHz. To overclock you need a Z97 motherboard, which would also require you to reinstall your OS since you would have changed hardware. This could be a real headache in the long run unless you have fun working with computers.

overclocking a cpu brings problems better off upgrading

 

[sshortguy1]

i got a 4790 processor and it's bottlenecking my gpu,, i'm not getting no where in the area in frame rates i should be getting

 

[J_E_D_70]

If you have a 4790 and a good gpu but are not getting expected framerates there's a HW or SW issue.

 

[Seeda]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that you absolutely have to buy an i7, though it can help if you play exceedingly CPU intensive games. I would just buy an overclockable core i5 and set it up at about 4.4 to 4.6 GHz. your only real option is the 4690K since you have an LGA 1150 motherboard. You're looking at about $225-$240 depending on where you buy the CPU. if you want a non OC i7 the cheapest relatively fast i7 will be the 4790S, but at the price it sells for it's kind of a no-brainer at that point to step up to the 4790K and OC the hell out of it for $35 more at $340 on average. Your upgrade path at this point is relatively limited and will at the least be $230 for a K SKU i5. Edit: I just did some research on your motherboard and realized that it may not be able to overclock. I would get a regular 4790 if this is the case as getting a 4790K would work, but it would never be able to be overclocked, unless you want that extra 400MHz. To overclock you need a Z97 motherboard, which would also require you to reinstall your OS since you would have changed hardware. This could be a real headache in the long run unless you have fun working with computers.

overclocking a cpu brings problems better off upgrading

What do you mean?

 

[sshortguy1]

there's a lot of incidents due to overclocking overheating for starters

 

[Seeda]

there's a lot of incidents due to overclocking overheating for starters

Allright I will upgrade my cpu.
Thanks you all guys! I appreciate it

 

[J_E_D_70]

Well, good luck and happy gaming. FWIW, I know a great many people who have been overclocking for the better part of a decade with zero issues. I can't even recall the last time I saw someone on here who fried a cpu.

 

[sshortguy1]

overclocking can lead to overheating and instability

 

[zshadez]

an i5 is kinda slow for the gpu , if I was you I would upgrade to a i7 processor , you would be definitely bottlenecking the pc you processor will be too slow , I have a i7 4790 processor and its running alittle slow and i'm using a gtx 1080

That is completely bs. An i7 is in no way needed for gaming, and very rarely preferable to an i5. Very few games are going to use the additional cores in a real and meaningful way if at all. For almost all of gaming buying an equal power i7 instead of the equivalent i5 will gain you nothing, you're just throwing away money. Increasing the power of the chip will absolutely help your gaming, to a point, but overclocking is by far the most cost effective and simple way to do that.

Overclocking is extremely quick and easy these days. Installing an aftermarket fan like the Evo 212 isn't really any more difficult than installing the stock fan included with most CPUs. A few extra screws is all it takes to make sure you're running cool. For instance, the stock fan with the 4690k is garbage in general, but pop on a $20-30 aftermarket fan and you're set for overclocking. With a $20-30 investment in a nicer fan the 4690k is very easily stable at 4.4Ghz, many going higher. If you don't want to take the time to really learn the ins and outs of overclocking most motherboard manufacturers now include some type of automatic overclock settings in BIOS. These used to be a pretty poor choice, but in the last few years they've gotten fairly decent.

An Asrock z97 Pro4 is far from a top of the line motherboard, but paired with a 4690K all you have to do is click on the 4.4ghz overclock setting in BIOS and it will take care of it for you. You'll be using a bit higher vcore power than you likely need, sure, but the setting is safe, instant, and effortless. If you don't want to really mess with overclocking you can use this method to get a 900Mhz boost for $20-30, 30 minutes to swap cpu fans, and about one minute to boot to BIOS and change the setting.

If you'd like to take the time to learn more about overclocking and tinkering you can gain more, yes, but often not a lot more than can be done automatically with the mfg BIOS settings. After 5 hours of tests and tinkering I found that my 4690K tops at 4.7Ghz. Yes, it's a 1.2Ghz increase over stock, but only a 300Mhz increase over the automatic BIOS OC. It's a relatively cmall boost compared to what Asrock (and other mfg) let you set and take care of automatically.

Bottlenecking - There is no consumer video card on the market that will be bottlenecked by an i5-4690 at stock much less overclocked. You can run SLI 1080s on a 4690k and the CPU will not bottleneck the cards.

 

[sshortguy1]

an i5 is kinda slow for the gpu , if I was you I would upgrade to a i7 processor , you would be definitely bottlenecking the pc you processor will be too slow , I have a i7 4790 processor and its running alittle slow and i'm using a gtx 1080

That is completely bs. An i7 is in no way needed for gaming, and very rarely preferable to an i5. Very few games are going to use the additional cores in a real and meaningful way if at all. For almost all of gaming buying an equal power i7 instead of the equivalent i5 will gain you nothing, you're just throwing away money. Increasing the power of the chip will absolutely help your gaming, to a point, but overclocking is by far the most cost effective and simple way to do that.

Overclocking is extremely quick and easy these days. Installing an aftermarket fan like the Evo 212 isn't really any more difficult than installing the stock fan included with most CPUs. A few extra screws is all it takes to make sure you're running cool. For instance, the stock fan with the 4690k is garbage in general, but pop on a $20-30 aftermarket fan and you're set for overclocking. With a $20-30 investment in a nicer fan the 4690k is very easily stable at 4.4Ghz, many going higher. If you don't want to take the time to really learn the ins and outs of overclocking most motherboard manufacturers now include some type of automatic overclock settings in BIOS. These used to be a pretty poor choice, but in the last few years they've gotten fairly decent.

An Asrock z97 Pro4 is far from a top of the line motherboard, but paired with a 4690K all you have to do is click on the 4.4ghz overclock setting in BIOS and it will take care of it for you. You'll be using a bit higher vcore power than you likely need, sure, but the setting is safe, instant, and effortless. If you don't want to really mess with overclocking you can use this method to get a 900Mhz boost for $20-30, 30 minutes to swap cpu fans, and about one minute to boot to BIOS and change the setting.

If you'd like to take the time to learn more about overclocking and tinkering you can gain more, yes, but often not a lot more than can be done automatically with the mfg BIOS settings. After 5 hours of tests and tinkering I found that my 4690K tops at 4.7Ghz. Yes, it's a 1.2Ghz increase over stock, but only a 300Mhz increase over the automatic BIOS OC. It's a relatively cmall boost compared to what Asrock (and other mfg) let you set and take care of automatically.

Bottlenecking - There is no consumer video card on the market that will be bottlenecked by an i5-4690 at stock much less overclocked. You can run SLI 1080s on a 4690k and the CPU will not bottleneck the cards.

oh really ?
why is gta 5 and witcher 3 and other games are cpu , try the i5 to a r9 390x ? that was last yr's card the 1080 or even the 1070 will have issues , the cpu and the gpu have to work together or it will lag info to eachother that is where bottlenecking will develop

 

[sshortguy1]

bottlenecking is when a cpu is too slow to catch up with a gpu if the cpu is too slow the gpu has to wait for the info to reach it and will develops lagging or slower frame rates,,,,, I've been reading and watching videos since may 27th to achieve the full potential of the 1080 that is why I upgraded to a i7 6700
here's the best answer to 1 of the other questions concerning what gpu to use on a gtx 1080

I'm actually in the same scenario with the same processor, I am upgrading to the 6700k with the ASUS Maximum Formula VIII board and DDR4 3000 RAM.

I've heard that the bottlenecks on our processer are very significant in higher end games like Witcher 3 and those equal and above, people have even seen less FPS with the GTX 1080 than with a 970. I highly recommend going to the 6700k
that is the best answer,,,,,,, you're telling me these people are wrong ? wth ru ? telling us you're right and they'll are all wrong

 

[J_E_D_70]

This is buffoonery. I'm running witcher 3 at 1440p full ultra (with hairworks on) on a cpu that's three generation old and its smooth. Not theory, not youtube, real life.

 

[sshortguy1]

This is buffoonery. I'm running witcher 3 at 1440p full ultra (with hairworks on) on a cpu that's three generation old and its smooth. Not theory, not youtube, real life.

b/s witcher 3 is 1 of those game that are cpu intensive, look at jayz2cents linus tech and tech of tomorrows site on youtube they will all disagree with you