Will SATA1.0 MOBO accept a new SATA3.0 drive?

[Blastyrant]

Hello,
My HDD has just failed. I can't get anything working on it. It appears to have, at this point, over 500 bad sectors. I'm currently running HDD Regenerator v1.71 on it.

I would just like to replace it but I have been out of the hardware scene for a long time. I am seeing SATA3.0 drives for sale, and in very large volumes.

I would like to know if my controller's SATA1.0 plug will work on one of these new SATA3.0 drives?

My MOBO is a MSI vMS7093 ATX. According to the manual it is SATA1.0.

My current drives (including the bad one) are:
Seagate Barracuda HD 80GB ST380817AS (drive that failed)
Seagate Barracuda HD 200GB ST 7200 8M SATA ST3200826AS

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I was able to recover data from it by booting to MINI XP and copy/pasting files to and from the drive. The files are fine and I have verified many by SFV so I'm not sure if the drive is dead yet. After my initial question is answered I am open to suggestions on what to try to get this drive working.

Finally, while not as important, does anyone still sell 80GB or so SATA1.0 drives. I got 9+yrs out of the "C" drive and would like to go with the same type of drive. Stick with what works and all that.

Cheers and thanks.

 

[gtvr]

Everything I've seen says they are. Plug shape is the same.

As far as the old drive, once an HD starts dying I'd just throw it in the trash. Not worth the risk of data loss.

 

[Paperdoc]

Yes, a SATA 6 Gb/s drive should work on your system, but you might find a SATA II drive much better for cost. The differences between SATA, SATA II and new SATA 6 Gb/s is mostly in the maximum data transfer rate. To keep things simple, newer units are supposed to be able to detect when they are connected to older SATA controllers and automatically slow themselves down to match that. Sometimes they don't, so the HDD makers also provide some way (often via a jumper on a pin pair on the drive back edge, sometimes by a software utility) to force the new drive to communicate at the slower speed.

The bottom line, though, is that no matter what drive unit you buy now, it will HAVE to slow down to match the older SATA controller on the mobo. Hence there is no advantage to buying SATA 6 Gb/s over SATA II. But I bet there's a real cost difference! Save yourself money and go for SATA II.

As far a size goes, I would definitely go for a much larger unit than 80 GB. On a per-Gigabyte basis, the best deal now is 1.5 TB, if you can use that much space and pay the price. The size will not really impact the lifetime of the unit.

There is a small issue on size, though. To use any drive over 137 GB you need a feature called "48-bit LBA Support". ANY SATA drive and controller has that, so no hardware issues here. But that feature is missing IF you have only the original version of Win XP as your OS. If you have ANY Service Pack installed in XP, or if you are using Vista or Win 7, you have all you need in the OS and there is no problem. BUT if you're still using Win XP with NO Service Packs installed, or an earlier Windows, you would have to update your OS before installing a large drive.

Given that you have one 200 GB unit already, I'm hoping this last limit is NOT an issue for you.

 

[gtvr]

he may also have meant sata 3Gb/s vs. SATA 3.0 std, when talking about a new drive. It's a little confusing if you don't pay attention to which SATA 3 they are advertising, I guess.

 

[Paperdoc]

Yeah, that's why I was trying to stick to "SATA 6 Gb/s" to refer to the new standard, which is NOT supposed to be called SATA 3. But you're right, OP may have meant "SATA II" when he /she said "Sata 3.0" because those do have a max burst speed of 3.0 Gb/s.

 

[False_Dmitry_II]

Then we should just start saying SATA III instead. It is the third standard, and using the rate as an identifier is silly.

 

[Blastyrant]

The manual for my MOBO refers to it as SATA 1.0. I know its on the 3rd standard so I assumed it would be known as "3.0." Sorry for the confusion and thank you for the replies.

 

[Paperdoc]

OP, just FYI, the first version of this system is supposedly called plain "SATA" and its max burst rate for data transmission is 1.5 Gb/s. The second version is usually called "SATA II" by many and its max burst rate is 3.0 Gb/s. However, the SATA organizers think this is a bad precedent and have no intention of letting people call the third version, now just arriving in mobos and drives, "SATA III". They insist it will be called "SATA 6.0 Gb/s", and prefer that the currently-popular version be named "SATA 3.0 Gb/s" to be consistent.

So, your manual used a terms, "SATA 1.0" which was never "official", and that has led you to assume the newest version is "SATA 3.0". Not so. I'm still thinking that your situation cannot come close to using the ability of the newest "SATA 6.0 Gb/s" version because the drive will only have to slow down to match your mobo controller, which is first-version "SATA". In fact, however, the popular middle-version "SATA II" HDD units, aka "SATA 3.0 Gb/s", are too fast also, but you cannot buy anything slower these days. So that's what I'd buy, and not pay extra for the newest that you can't use. UNLESS, of course, you plan to upgrade within a couple years to a new mobo that WILL have a "SATA 6.0 Gb/s" controller.

 

[False_Dmitry_II]

Doesn't matter if he did. It's not like any normal hard drives are surpassing SATA II speeds anyway.

Them trying to retroactively name things just isn't going to happen. There are ads everywhere about SATA 3.0 compatible motherboards. That's like if somebody were to actually say "superspeed USB" just not gonna happen.

 

[ob1jeeper]

Question remains... Can a sata 3 which is supposed to have 6.0 speed be configured to work on a sata with 1.5 speed?