Will This Work?

[Moderig]

I want to see if this build works well and if it's very good for the budget of under 800 dollars, and I'm in need of a few more answers, which will be down below.

Will the build be okay even though the motherboard might need a BIOS update?

Is it better if I have 1 8GB, or 2 4GB for my memory?

Is it worth it to buy?

Also, here's the link to the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yhMtGX

Also, again, here's an updated build which is kind of three dollars cheaper: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Dd2PrH

 

[Mankar Kameran]

2x4 ram will give you duel channel and a little bit more speed.

 

[cin19]

Check out my list, change to intel i3 + better r9 380 GPU + PSU, buy the win7 or win8 for free upgrade to win10. If you get other GPU like gtx950 , which is still better than gtx750ti, and you can go under $800.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pqxBVn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pqxBVn/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BW ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX Core Edition 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech G105 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $818.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-16 18:58 EDT-0400

 

[Moderig]

Check out my list, change to intel i3 + better r9 380 GPU + PSU, buy the win7 or win8 for free upgrade to win10. If you get other GPU like gtx950 , which is still better than gtx750ti, and you can go under $800.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pqxBVn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pqxBVn/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BW ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX Core Edition 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech G105 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $818.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-16 18:58 EDT-0400

Hmm, the processor will add too much to the price, and since the processor itself is expensive to make it the same price, you have to make everything else cheaper

 

[Moderig]

Is the desktop I already have better or worse than the Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor?

 

[Johan Kryger Haglert]

Hello

The 860K is one of the APU-chips but with the integrated graphics removed. I guess that + the GTX 750Ti is a better purchase than the APU-unit since the GTX 750 Ti is more powerful.

With that said for about the same money you get an Intel Pentium G3258 which would be a better processor:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/

The Intel-chip is more powerful / core but only has two cores, the AMD chip is more powerful (in Passmark) using all four cores:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-860K

The Intel chip however can be overclocked and by quite a bit likely removing that difference even using multiple cores. It's also a lower (electricity and heat) power chip from the beginning so you can over-clock it and still likely use about as much electricity and have a similar amount of heat to get rid with.

According to the test above the 860K could be over-clocked as-well but regardless the G3258 most often beat the 860K both in stock clock and over-clocked.

So the G3258 is the better alternative for the build.

Regarding the RAM using two modules will give better bandwidth but use up two slots limiting expansion capability in the future, but regular motherboards usually have four slots and I guess it's unlikely you'll want to get more than another 2x8 for a total of 24 GB of RAM in the future anyway? So it doesn't matter. I suggest using two modules.

You can lose the sound-card with minimal disadvantage. The CPU-cooler is better than a stock-cooler and better for over-clocking but if you want money for something else you can remove that and use the stock-cooler as-well.

The graphics card is decent and using G3258 + GTX 750 Ti will likely give you a decent low-end build which will allow you to play many of recent / current titles at lower quality and possible resolution at playable frame-rates.

Personally I don't use an optical drive, you could save money there to but will need one or an USB-drive for OS installation. You could likely borrow it from a friend or older computer though? Similarly if you have an older computer what about using that case and power supply unit?

You could save additional money by not purchasing the OS. I assume the standard-solution for how to handle a computer without a purchased OS isn't allowed to be discussed on the forum but if you'd be ok with playing games which run on Linux like CS:GO, DOTA, Civ V, X-Com you could install SteamOS / any Linux distribution and Steam and play like that and save the money for Windows. Most of the games won't run on Linux though. Witcher 3 will supposedly come for Linux. Don't seem like Fallout 4 will. Guess not for Battlefront either.

So yeah..

With the money saved from an optical-drive, the sound-card and the CPU-cooler you could get an i3 processor instead of the G3258. Those don't have unlocked multipliers so you won't be overclocking it, on the other hand it supports hyper-threading and is likely a better processor than the G3258 even when overclocked.

If you could use an old case and/or PSU or ditch Windows you could also had upgraded to the GTX 950 or R9 380.

The i3 isn't perfect either but it's somewhat better than the G3258 which is quite a bit better than the 860K for many of the games out now at-least.

Good luck with your build and gaming regardless of what you choose (If you want to chat I'm on Steam as aliquise.)

 

[Moderig]

Hello

The 860K is one of the APU-chips but with the integrated graphics removed. I guess that + the GTX 750Ti is a better purchase than the APU-unit since the GTX 750 Ti is more powerful.

With that said for about the same money you get an Intel Pentium G3258 which would be a better processor:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/

The Intel-chip is more powerful / core but only has two cores, the AMD chip is more powerful (in Passmark) using all four cores:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-860K

The Intel chip however can be overclocked and by quite a bit likely removing that difference even using multiple cores. It's also a lower (electricity and heat) power chip from the beginning so you can over-clock it and still likely use about as much electricity and have a similar amount of heat to get rid with.

According to the test above the 860K could be over-clocked as-well but regardless the G3258 most often beat the 860K both in stock clock and over-clocked.

So the G3258 is the better alternative for the build.

Regarding the RAM using two modules will give better bandwidth but use up two slots limiting expansion capability in the future, but regular motherboards usually have four slots and I guess it's unlikely you'll want to get more than another 2x8 for a total of 24 GB of RAM in the future anyway? So it doesn't matter. I suggest using two modules.

You can lose the sound-card with minimal disadvantage. The CPU-cooler is better than a stock-cooler and better for over-clocking but if you want money for something else you can remove that and use the stock-cooler as-well.

The graphics card is decent and using G3258 + GTX 750 Ti will likely give you a decent low-end build which will allow you to play many of recent / current titles at lower quality and possible resolution at playable frame-rates.

Personally I don't use an optical drive, you could save money there to but will need one or an USB-drive for OS installation. You could likely borrow it from a friend or older computer though? Similarly if you have an older computer what about using that case and power supply unit?

You could save additional money by not purchasing the OS. I assume the standard-solution for how to handle a computer without a purchased OS isn't allowed to be discussed on the forum but if you'd be ok with playing games which run on Linux like CS:GO, DOTA, Civ V, X-Com you could install SteamOS / any Linux distribution and Steam and play like that and save the money for Windows. Most of the games won't run on Linux though. Witcher 3 will supposedly come for Linux. Don't seem like Fallout 4 will. Guess not for Battlefront either.

So yeah..

With the money saved from an optical-drive, the sound-card and the CPU-cooler you could get an i3 processor instead of the G3258. Those don't have unlocked multipliers so you won't be overclocking it, on the other hand it supports hyper-threading and is likely a better processor than the G3258 even when overclocked.

If you could use an old case and/or PSU or ditch Windows you could also had upgraded to the GTX 950 or R9 380.

The i3 isn't perfect either but it's somewhat better than the G3258 which is quite a bit better than the 860K for many of the games out now at-least.

Good luck with your build and gaming regardless of what you choose (If you want to chat I'm on Steam as aliquise.)

But if the intel processor is not overclocked, will it be worse or still more fps?

 

[Moderig]

Hello

The 860K is one of the APU-chips but with the integrated graphics removed. I guess that + the GTX 750Ti is a better purchase than the APU-unit since the GTX 750 Ti is more powerful.

With that said for about the same money you get an Intel Pentium G3258 which would be a better processor:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/

The Intel-chip is more powerful / core but only has two cores, the AMD chip is more powerful (in Passmark) using all four cores:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-860K

The Intel chip however can be overclocked and by quite a bit likely removing that difference even using multiple cores. It's also a lower (electricity and heat) power chip from the beginning so you can over-clock it and still likely use about as much electricity and have a similar amount of heat to get rid with.

According to the test above the 860K could be over-clocked as-well but regardless the G3258 most often beat the 860K both in stock clock and over-clocked.

So the G3258 is the better alternative for the build.

Regarding the RAM using two modules will give better bandwidth but use up two slots limiting expansion capability in the future, but regular motherboards usually have four slots and I guess it's unlikely you'll want to get more than another 2x8 for a total of 24 GB of RAM in the future anyway? So it doesn't matter. I suggest using two modules.

You can lose the sound-card with minimal disadvantage. The CPU-cooler is better than a stock-cooler and better for over-clocking but if you want money for something else you can remove that and use the stock-cooler as-well.

The graphics card is decent and using G3258 + GTX 750 Ti will likely give you a decent low-end build which will allow you to play many of recent / current titles at lower quality and possible resolution at playable frame-rates.

Personally I don't use an optical drive, you could save money there to but will need one or an USB-drive for OS installation. You could likely borrow it from a friend or older computer though? Similarly if you have an older computer what about using that case and power supply unit?

You could save additional money by not purchasing the OS. I assume the standard-solution for how to handle a computer without a purchased OS isn't allowed to be discussed on the forum but if you'd be ok with playing games which run on Linux like CS:GO, DOTA, Civ V, X-Com you could install SteamOS / any Linux distribution and Steam and play like that and save the money for Windows. Most of the games won't run on Linux though. Witcher 3 will supposedly come for Linux. Don't seem like Fallout 4 will. Guess not for Battlefront either.

So yeah..

With the money saved from an optical-drive, the sound-card and the CPU-cooler you could get an i3 processor instead of the G3258. Those don't have unlocked multipliers so you won't be overclocking it, on the other hand it supports hyper-threading and is likely a better processor than the G3258 even when overclocked.

If you could use an old case and/or PSU or ditch Windows you could also had upgraded to the GTX 950 or R9 380.

The i3 isn't perfect either but it's somewhat better than the G3258 which is quite a bit better than the 860K for many of the games out now at-least.

Good luck with your build and gaming regardless of what you choose (If you want to chat I'm on Steam as aliquise.)

Thanks for the help, too- But also, can you edit my build on the pcpartpicker website and show me the exact edits you would like in the build, because something visual for me makes it easier. Thanks for the help, again!

 

[Moderig]

Following your rules Johan, I've made the build a little better saving 3 dollars because of changing the motherboard and also the processor to the Pentium, thanks for your help!

 

[Johan Kryger Haglert]

http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/
Answer the result without over-clocking.

Crysis 3 with R9 285:
860K: 34.3 FPS
G3258: 40.0 FPS = 16% better.

Bioshock Infinite:
860K: 68.1 FPS
G3258: 76.2 FPS

Metro redux: 27 vs 26 FPS

And so on.. So not all that much of a difference.

But over-clocked like in the later case the difference become 33 vs 28.5 FPS.

Guess it's not really something to write home about but it's still better =P

Also with the motherboard for the G3258 you can get any other socker 1150 processor. So it's upgradeable.

i3 4130 vs G3258 running overclocked at 4.7 GHz in GTA V: https://youtu.be/ZbglcO1QFjM?t=25s

Sometimes the G3258 keep up and sometimes not. I wonder if it have something which down-clock it if it become too hot / use too much power?

i3 4130 = $114 according to that page.
G3258 = $65

The EVO 212 cooler was $25 after the mail in discount, so if you use that for overclocking the difference becomes $114 vs $90.

i3 4170 is $115 though so I suggest spending the extra dollar

i3 4130 = 3.4 GHz
i3 4170 = 3.7 GHz

I see someone had already gone with the i3 and a very nice R9 380 graphics card.

What about removing 2 out of 3 out of 1) CPU-cooler 2) Optical drive and 3 (definitely)) Sound-card so you can afford the i3 4170 instead?

If you remove the optical drive then just borrow one or a USB memory from a friend for Windows installation.

I don't know why someone else´s monitor was $35 less than yours? If you could get it for $35 less then the next upgrade could be the GTX 750Ti to GTX 950. (or one could go from i3 4170 to i5 4460. I don't know what is the better deal really. Depends on whatever it's now or in the future maybe )

High price ($210) for the i3 6300, that one would use a 100-series motherboard and DDR4 memory as-well. There's i3 6100 and i3 6320 too but they haven't got prices yet. But it's not worth paying $210 for one of those of course.
You get an i5 4460 for $175.