Win 7 Deletes System Restore Points at Reboot

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[citation][nom]gogogadgetliver[/nom]Why do people always think they can "tweak" their OS better than the people that actually wrote it? Sorry but the Windows developers really do know more than you. Really.[/citation]
I thought this was obvious, but operating systems are designed for many different types of users, all of whom have different levels of experience with computers. Just because the system came pre-installed with a particular piece of software or has a certain feature "on" by default doesn't mean it's useful to all users.

At the same time, people who change their home page to something they regularly visit, or turn-off automatic backups, or increase the size of the fonts/icons, or change it so there is no need to double-click... they're not claiming to know more about software than the programmers; they just know what they want.
 
[citation][nom]Platypus[/nom]I thought this was obvious, but operating systems are designed for many different types of users, all of whom have different levels of experience with computers. Just because the system came pre-installed with a particular piece of software or has a certain feature "on" by default doesn't mean it's useful to all users.At the same time, people who change their home page to something they regularly visit, or turn-off automatic backups, or increase the size of the fonts/icons, or change it so there is no need to double-click... they're not claiming to know more about software than the programmers; they just know what they want.[/citation]

Tweak it however you want. Just don't claim that tweaks like turning off system restore improve performance. That just illustrates that you do not understand how system restore works.
 
[citation][nom]leo2kp[/nom]I shut off System Restore and just back up regularily for the performance boost ^.^[/citation]

Likewise. Scunia's bootable backup option always superior as it A) creates full disk image, boot partition included B) operated from outside the booted OS environment, so you aren't backing up bits that are loaded into memory/being altered and C) can create a dedicated back-up partition that is not accessible by other OSes, so they can never mess with your backups, esp if they are sitting on a second drive.

All that aside though, considering the level of knowlege of computer uses these days (low to none), this is bad since folk won't know aforementioned best practices. On the other hand, if they don't know how to properly make back-ups, they probably don't know how to do restores either (since A comes before B).

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This is why you use a 3rd party backup tool. I see this affecting the average joe user, but if you are a power user then you should be using something different.

Me? Commvault and Acronis Home are good solutions (for their respective markets). I mean, who doesn't want to be able to create a clone of their PC that is hardware independant?
 
The good news is because it is Microsoft this will be fixed very quickly. And I mean VERY quickly. If it were Apple you would probably wait a good 2 weeks or more.
 
what amazes me is if you have a problem all you got to do is last known good and bam its kinda like system restore but uses the registry.bak
 
[citation][nom]gogogadgetliver[/nom]Tweak it however you want. Just don't claim that tweaks like turning off system restore improve performance. That just illustrates that you do not understand how system restore works.[/citation]
It works? obviously you do have some inside information about it we dont. I have yet to see it work in any way thats deemed as worthy to keep it enabled in all my years of PC repair and IT admin.
Sure it can restore small issues (that could be repaired in 5 minutes manually anyway)
but any other situation where its a "save the OS situation", its failed me in so many ways.
And performance gained? less defrag time, less disk access, less indexing service disk operations, less RAM with the services assigned to it running.
sure it may be trivial..but you don't know us tweak freaks that if we have more than 30 processes running or 2 items done by the systray..we are cleaning house.
 
I have seen this with vista as well that has not been updated to sp1 restore points keep vanishing on customers machines until it's updated to sp2.
Acronis home 2010 plus pack now has universal restore that allows you to create an image that can be used on any hardware or vmware.
 
the most important thing stored on average joe's computer is a few bookmarks and some rare porn... however, average joe gets more than average angry when he loses his rare porn
 
ONE WORD: Windows Back-up On And External Drive. Wait? One . .Two . . Three . . Four . .Five ??
Six Words, Sorry. And then you can delete that annoying Restore point and get some GB's Back on your Boot drive.
 

Not for me it isn't. Curiosity is the cause of my meltdowns. And bad drivers. System restore is quite handy, it's saved me a few times as has booting the Last Known Good Configuration. A Linux Live CD helps where all else fails. I don't like doing fresh installs just because something isn't working. I should not need to unless the OS is particularly fragile (like Windows Me was).
 
This is NOT a bug. This is expected behavior in Windows 7 to save you the user a ton of disk space. This is why Microsoft has only created a manual workaround instead of an actual patch. Deleting the system restore points is the very last step of the boot up process before you see the Windows log on screen. This means if Windows 7 can successfully delete your system restore points then the driver or application installation was successful and they aren't needed anymore.
 
when you upgrade xp to win 7 you need to format drive.format option is on screen where you pick drive to install win7/bottom right of screen drive OPTIONS/restore will then


 
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