Question Windows 10 vs WIndows 11 on a new build?

[min4to]

Hello everyone!​

I'm planning to build a new PC for myself next week with the following parts:


Which Windows should I go for? I'd use the PC mainly for gaming and video editing.

If you've got some advice for me on what could be changed/improved I would really appreciate the feedback!

The GPU will be replaced sometime in the near future probably with an 7900 GRE, I'm just using it for now since it was in my old system.

Every answer will be much appreciated!​

 

[kanewolf]

If you intend to keep it a long time, then Win 11. Win 10 will lose support in Oct 2025.

 

[USAFRet]

Little if any reason to avoid Win 10.
Just go with 11.

 

[Lafong]

I think Windows 10 goes out of support late next year. Would that be a big deal to you? Or would you say "so what"?

Would you be frustrated by the differences between 10 and 11...mainly that certain controls are located in different locations? You would have to climb that learning curve. Maybe you say "so what"?

I'm on 10. If I were to build tomorrow, I'd choose 11.....but I would expect to encounter some hassles and frustration along the way.

For all I know, I could live happily ever after on 10. My reasons for choosing 11 are rather vague. You may have the notion that you would be missing out on something fabulous if you stayed with 10.

 

[USAFRet]

I'm on 10. If I were to build tomorrow, I'd choose 11.....but I would expect to encounter some hassles and frustration along the way.

Right now, I have both Win 10 and Win 11 systems.

It took me about 1 day to get used to the UI differences, after powering up the first Win 11 system.

Pretty much the same between any other Windows version change in the history of Windows.

Win 7 to 8 was huge.

Win 3.11 to 95 was huge.

Win 10 to 11? Not even a fart in a windstorm.

 

[DSzymborski]

And you can always use Start11 and make it look just like you want.

 

[35below0]

Win 10 to 11? Not even a fart in a windstorm.

Quoted for truth.

They're more or less the same OS except the UI is different. But there are options to tweak the Start Menu and Taskbar to make them more 10-like,
Win 11 is superior when it comes to using intel 13th and 14th gen CPUs. Possibly 12th also but i'm not sure. Other than that, it's only minor improvement, and almost all are invisible to the user.

I see no reason to use Win 10, but that's just me.

 

[hotaru.hino]

I would say Windows hasn't really changed dramatically since Vista. Everything since then was more UI and/or UX tweaking.

I guess you could say the security features that were added in Windows 10 in the middle of its life and made standard in 11 could account for something, but for the most part, Windows hasn't really changed.

In any case, for the purposes of this topic, Windows 11 is better. Windows 10 only has a year and a half of support left. And while that doesn't meant the OS becomes unusable at that point, you're taking a bigger risk in terms of security issues the longer you stick to it. And eventually hardware vendors stop making/updating drivers for it. You could go with Windows 10 and upgrade to Windows 11 later for free, but that can be a pain.

 

[CountMike]

On the surface, it may look likeW10 and 11 are same but they are not. Don't look just at UI, some of it hails from W95/98 just at higher resolution and different fonts. It's quite different in the ways it works. Most of difference is in security and HW handling, GUI and desktop are just minor difference. Some of it was back ported to W10 but it's on backward side of W11 and although still supported it wasn't really renovated for at lest couple of years.
W10 is much closer to W8/8.1 than to W11.
Simply, new generation of hardware deserves new generation OS.

 

[boju]

Win11. Im guessing once Win12 arrives Win11 users might be able to migrate (if you wanted to) for free, probably not so much for current Win10 users that remained, like me. Not sure Win10 users can still upgrade to 11 for free anymore.

 

[Anom1c]

You can save like 65$ by getting phantom spirit cooler, it's just as good for that CPU ( and it doesnt get very hot anyway). And another 30$ or so by getting 6000 ram.

 

[35below0]

Win11. Im guessing once Win12 arrives Win11 users might be able to migrate (if you wanted to) for free, probably not so much for current Win10 users that remained, like me. Not sure Win10 users can still upgrade to 11 for free anymore.

I had a buggy Win 11 install USB, so i made a Win 10 installer using Rufus. I used the Win 11 key because i read enough information online that convinced me the keys are interchangeable. They are. I have done the Win 10 installation with no problems, let Windows Update install all updates for Win 10. It took a couple of days for all of them to be offered, but interestingly the upgrade to Win 11 was not offered for almost a week. Mode me wonder, but at least i had a usable OS.

Eventually the upgrade to 11 was offered and i let Windows Update handle it. Went without a hitch. If there are any unwanted Win 10 leftovers, i am not aware of them. Windows Update kept a Win 10 backup in case i wanted to go back. I eventually deleted that because i wanted Win 11.

So, why not take a look at Windows Update and see if the upgrade to 11 is available? At least the option to check compatibility with Win 11 should be there.
As aggressively as Microsoft is urging migrating to 11, i would be surprised if the option wasn't there. At least for a PC that meets requirements.

Unless you meant once Win 12 arrives, Win 10 users will be left out and have no upgrade path from 10 to 11 and then 12. May be, who knows. But there should be plenty of warning it will be that way.

On the surface, it may look likeW10 and 11 are same but they are not.

Since they are superficialy the same, and 11 offers better compatibility and has a longer future, for the same memory usage and storage space required no less, it should be a no-brainer as to which OS to pick.

If it's a matter of cosmetics and visuals, there are tools like Stardock Start 11 or Winaero tweaker that can customize the look and feel of the UI beyond what Win 11 offers.

If it's a problem of Microsoft never being able to roll out an OS without screwing up something basic and almost impossible to screw up, live with it. The 5% of inconvenience does not outweigh the 95% of a fast, modern, secure*, and compatible OS. Compatible with not just hardware but the majority of software.
Linux is an alternative and so is Mac, but both have their own shortcomings and plenty of idiocy as well.

You can save like 65$ by getting phantom spirit cooler, it's just as good for that CPU ( and it doesnt get very hot anyway). And another 30$ or so by getting 6000 ram.

I will say this about the Noctua. It is seriously silent. And it comes with a low noise adapter that makes it even silenter.
Maybe the Phantom Spirit Evo is the greatest cooler in terms of cooling, and it is reported to be fairly quiet as well. I haven't used one myself. I have the NH-D15 and it is worth paying for.

For cooling performance alone, the Thermalright is a little better and costs less money, that's true.

 

[USAFRet]

Win11. Im guessing once Win12 arrives Win11 users might be able to migrate (if you wanted to) for free, probably not so much for current Win10 users that remained, like me. Not sure Win10 users can still upgrade to 11 for free anymore.

Win 10 will almost certainly be upgradeable to 12.

Just like Win 7/8/8.1 was until very recently.

 

[bill001g]

The only "advantage?" I see to window 10 is that support expires in a year. My first thought was no more forced updates that mess my machine up.

If microsoft would only put out true security patches I would not have as much issue. They tend to bundle it up with massive piles of crap....like their new AI stuff. They pretend that it is critical that you install this update but only a tiny part of it the actual security. What seems to happen is they get even more "critical security" issues in the new code. Kinda like when I went to all the trouble to remove xbox stuff that was causing me issues. The next patch came out and they mentioned it fixed a xbox security issue. So rather than just see I have uninstalled xbox they reinstall it and then patch it.