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Small obstacle when installing: No option to install Wifi Usb network adapter in setup, could be rectified by allowing local account, then signing in to Microsoft account later, this also gives the administrator a preferable user folder name.
 
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Watch out for the white taskbar... I got some temporary (luckily temporary) screen burn on my monitor.

Besides that, I could have just used dark, but windows 11, it's great but far less smooth than windows 10, especially having two sub menu's for the mouse right click tasks, and many other things I liked better in windows 10, windows ten can still use some improvements before it's time is out.

The most annoying thing in windows 11 was no real time clock on the calendar, It did look nice, but in my opinion not great, having used it mostly for my gaming rig, I cant say much about all the other apps and features that I did not use, As for TPM.. looking at the device manger and task manager in windows 10 it's still functioning even now.
 
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itrip said:
Watch out for the white taskbar... I got some temporary (luckily temporary) screen burn on my monitor.

Besides that, I could have just used dark, but windows 11, it's great but far less smooth than windows 10, especially having two sub menu's for the mouse right click tasks, and many other things I liked better in windows 10, windows ten can still use some improvements before it's time is out.

The most annoying thing in windows 11 was no real time clock on the calendar, It did look nice, but in my opinion not great, having used it mostly for my gaming rig, I cant say much about all the other apps and features that I did not use, As for TPM.. looking at the device manger and task manager in windows 10 it's still functioning even now.
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Hello!

To me, the most annoying thing was the new right-click menu of Win11.
Needing an extra click to refresh the page was a no-no for me.
I used a registry hack to recover the “normal” (Win10 like) right-click menu.
 
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Endre said:
Hello!

To me, the most annoying thing was the new right-click menu of Win11.
Needing an extra click to refresh the page was a no-no for me.
I used a registry hack to recover the “normal” (Win10 like) right-click menu.
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Indeed a solution, but being a legit paying windows user, one does not want to resort to all kinds of quick fixes just to operate on said windows, and go about your business without hassle.

If you never got used to windows 10's fluidity, I do suppose windows 11 is still a great and stable OS for first time PC users, but I won't choose it over Ten.
 
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itrip said:
Indeed a solution, but being a legit paying windows user, one does not want to resort to all kinds of quick fixes just to operate on said windows, and go about your business without hassle.

If you never got used to windows 10's fluidity, I do suppose windows 11 is still a great and stable OS for first time PC users, but I won't choose it over Ten.
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I switched from Win10 to Win11, because Win11 looks better and it represents the future.
Generally, Win11 works just like Win10.
 
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Endre said:
I switched from Win10 to Win11, because Win11 looks better and it represents the future.
Generally, Win11 works just like Win10.
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I wish it were a windows that represents the future, like 7 was over Xp, Windows 11 besides TMP, witch as I said before still works on windows 10 as seen in the task manager and device manager has just been a inbetweener, a sort of test before a real OS upgrade with all the trimming modern computer enthusiasts and users expect and want to utilize in their OS for gaming, work and managing hardware.

Thus I believe the dev's are still working tirelessly to bring about a real next windows.
 
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Just a notice of something that happened to me, when I reinstalled windows 10 after I had windows 11, I could not get my activation sorted out with the same key anymore, had to buy an new key just to use windows 10 again.

Don't know if this is an isolated case or not but going from windows 10 to windows 11 consumed my activation key.
 
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itrip said:
Just a notice of something that happened to me, when I reinstalled windows 10 after I had windows 11, I could not get my activation sorted out with the same key anymore, had to buy an new key just to use windows 10 again.

Don't know if this is an isolated case or not but going from windows 10 to windows 11 consumed my activation key.
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That’s interesting.

I’m on Win11 since it launched officially and I use a key that was previously used on Win10.
But I didn’t try to go back to Win
10. (Maybe the key that I use is now locked on activating Win11 only).
 
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itrip said:
Just a notice of something that happened to me, when I reinstalled windows 10 after I had windows 11, I could not get my activation sorted out with the same key anymore, had to buy an new key just to use windows 10 again.

Don't know if this is an isolated case or not but going from windows 10 to windows 11 consumed my activation key.
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What was your method of installing Windows 10 and method of installing Windows 11? I want to know in case I want to go back to Windows 11
 
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Parroty69 said:
What was your method of installing Windows 10 and method of installing Windows 11? I want to know in case I want to go back to Windows 11
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Clean format and delete partitions, both installed on custom windows installation (creating new drive space), and with a separate usb install media for each version made by Mediacreationtool.

Then selecting (I don't have a product key) continuing through the setup and when your logged in to your live account and verified on said windows just select activation and it will sort it out automatically if your key is still available, otherwise if it is not then troubleshoot activation and if that doesn't work either like what happened to me after many attempts to troubleshoot, just buy a new key and use that.

Oh and another thing I never wrote down my key, neither did I keep the receipt email from purchase so I obviously could not have entered it in the setup, witch to my suspicions might have prevented this whole thing, but I have my doubt about that.
 
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if you want to go back to 11 from 10, just run the upgrade assistant on the windows 11 ISO download site (its the 1st link) and it will upgrade you to 11. Can clean install if you like but you lose all your defaults.

itrip said:
Thus I believe the dev's are still working tirelessly to bring about a real next windows.
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oh its coming all right, in about 5 years time. It will be windows 12 and by then enough people will have a PC with a tpm in it that the push back will not happen. Windows 11 isn't going anywhere, its just incremental change, just like 10 was before it. Win 10 just changed the desktop of 8.1 enough that we didn't push it away.

Microsoft is in the business of selling newer UI packs as operating system upgrades. Why sell theme packs when you can sell an entire OS around how it looks different to last one.
 
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Colif said:
if you want to go back to 11 from 10, just run the upgrade assistant on the windows 11 ISO download site (its the 1st link) and it will upgrade you to 11. Can clean install if you like but you lose all your defaults.


oh its coming all right, in about 5 years time. It will be windows 12 and by then enough people will have a PC with a tpm in it that the push back will not happen. Windows 11 isn't going anywhere, its just incremental change, just like 10 was before it. Win 10 just changed the desktop of 8.1 enough that we didn't push it away.

Microsoft is in the business of selling newer UI packs as operating system upgrades. Why sell theme packs when you can sell an entire OS around how it looks different to last one.
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It's so sad that is what they are doing, instead of releasing real OS upgrades with new kernel and api's to go along with that, we could even have live gpu rendered desktop effects with all the bells and whistles.

What i'd be expecting to be common place by now is the kind of OS's one gets a glimpse at when watching some modern tech savvy blockbuster movie, they appear to have the right idea of what an OS should be capable of doing by this day and age.
 
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itrip said:
It's so sad that is what they are doing, instead of releasing real OS upgrades with new kernel and api's to go along with that, we could even have live gpu rendered desktop effects with all the bells and whistles.
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Maybe (just maybe) the yearly upgrade cycle of win 11 will let them have time to make the next version more of a jump. I have been on 11 for 3 months now and its only answering questions like this that reminds me I am using it. All the UI changes are less apparent at 1440p, its telling the videos at launch all ran at 720p to make changes more obvious. I should fire up my win 10 VM just to see if I can notice anything else.

I wanted more, I know many of the changes are to things I don't use, many are for laptop users or people that want android apps on windows... i don't know why we need more clocks (when I first started using android, I noticed most of the widgets were mostly clocks) and unless you have a touch screen the apps won't be much use. Great for people with touch screens, why am I getting a win 8.1 feeling?

So since most of changes aren't for me, it just feels like win 10 to me. Nothing I do has changed a great deal. So transition was seamless.
 
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Well I went back to windows 10, and boy did I then notice many a faulty thing about that OS, Now I have Windows 11 installed again, and having used both OS's in such a short period of time, even with the few nuisances that Windows 11 comes with it appears that Windows 11 is the cleaner more performance orientated one out of the two choices.

Very much like how clean everything is in Windows 11.
 
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itrip said:
Well I went back to windows 10, and boy did I then notice many a faulty thing about that OS, Now I have Windows 11 installed again, and having used both OS's in such a short period of time, even with the few nuisances that Windows 11 comes with it appears that Windows 11 is the cleaner more performance orientated one out of the two choices.

Very much like how clean everything is in Windows 11.
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Yeah. I agree. Win11 is good.
Since upgrading to it, I never felt the need to go back to Win10.
 
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I like how the new Windows Tools menu is really just a view of control panel, it shows it in its address bar
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Funny control panel is an option there, seems repetitive.

I haven't used 10 since i upgraded, although I need to update my VM at some stage. I should just to see if I can find any differences that aren't just skin deep.
 
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Funny control panel is an option there, seems repetitive.
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Yes indeed, very observative.

Now we just need a solve software or application error rectifier icon, then we are all set. (oh wait I have something like that already it's just not implemented by default and it doesn't really solve errors it only remove errors from history)

I do seem to be having some application critical errors, but nothing that stops anything in it's tracks.
 
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it doesn't really solve errors it only remove errors from history
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ahh, the "Joo Jantu Peril Sensitive sunglasses" approach to problem solving, if you can't see it, it isn't there. Some other places use that for problem "solving" like our heater people who showed us how to turn the error reporting off... um, that doesn't fix it though?
Don't need that app, just do a repair install as that will clear error reporting history.
 
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