News Windows 11 skips past 50% market share milestone in latest Steam survey

[Admin]

Microsoft’s Windows 11 operating system strode past a major market share milestone in August. The newest version of Windows gained an impressive 3.36% market share, according to the newest Steam Hardware Survey data, to reach 50.81% share.

Windows 11 skips past 50% market share milestone in latest Steam survey : Read more

 

[atmapuri]

Its not yet clear how this transition is suppose to happen considering that the primary reason for not upgrading is perhaps unsupported hardware? And maybe the world PC industry cant produce so many new PCs in next 10 years, that would be compatible with Windows 11? Or Microsoft will just shut down half of all computers running worldwide?

 

[USAFRet]

And maybe the world PC industry cant produce so many new PCs in next 10 years, that would be compatible with Windows 11?

Pretty much every mainstream PC sold since 2018 is "Win 11 compatible".

 

[kyzarvs]

I do think I may well finally join the penguins for my home machine. Gaming seems to have come along enough that it's not a massive ballache. It's very rare that I buy a game in the first year of release, I've run Redhat / Debian servers for over 20 years and I'm getting sick to death of Windows built-in bloat and tracking. I'll run whatever work gives me on their laptops, but for home... maybe just maybe it will be time when 10 dies.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

It's not that much of a surprise. In this "gamer" segment the number of machines which cannot be upgraded to Windows 11 by hardware restriction are few, pretty much limited to Intel 6700/7700 and Zen 1, and the reasons for that segment to not use Windows 11 are also pretty much limited to choice, possibly influenced by mis-information.

When it comes to office computers and other non-gaming systems is when you run into the real problem of upgrading because they're fast enough for their intended task and upgrading isn't really justifiable, might like higher end smart phones which are still perfectly fine yet out of support, like the Galaxy S10.

 

[Newb888]

When it comes to office computers and other non-gaming systems is when you run into the real problem of upgrading because they're fast enough for their intended task and upgrading isn't really justifiable, might like higher end smart phones which are still perfectly fine yet out of support, like the Galaxy S10.

It's not just that. Having downgraded from W11 to W10 there are noticeable performance issues with W11 such as when you right click on the context menu and applications even W11 default application such as Control Panel and other system components are slow and the snappiness of W10 is gone.

I'll hold out for, maybe W12 or until "free" software vendors like Google for (Chrome) and others won't allow me to upgrade their applications.

 

[TeamRed2024]

the reasons for that segment to not use Windows 11 are also pretty much limited to choice, possibly influenced by mis-information.

Hahah... yeah. I'd wager that most that complain about how bad W11 is have never actually installed it. I personally think it's the best Windows ever... and I started with W95.

A thread yesterday had a W7 user saying that both W10 and W11 were horrible.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Hahah... yeah. I'd wager that most that complain about how bad W11 is have never actually installed it. I personally think it's the best Windows ever... and I started with W95.

A thread yesterday had a W7 user saying that both W10 and W11 were horrible.

Most of the rest probably come from people who use it and complain just to complain, usually about nonissues.

 

[cyrusfox]

Hahah... yeah. I'd wager that most that complain about how bad W11 is have never actually installed it. I personally think it's the best Windows ever... and I started with W95.

A thread yesterday had a W7 user saying that both W10 and W11 were horrible.

I can see how some might find Windows 11 to be an improvement, and it's great to hear that you're enjoying it. However, my experience has been different, particularly when it comes to the search functionality. Since Windows 8, and continuing with through to Windows 11, I've felt that the integration of online search results when using the Windows key is a step back from the local search efficiency we had in Windows 7. This change compelled me to use a third-party app like Everything.exe to quickly find local files.

And same with microsoft office😡, push towards cloud integration in Office has introduced extra steps for saving a file locally. I prefer the traditional file explorer interface for saving documents, and the new default cloud-saving option adds unnecessary clicks to my workflow. Microsoft has shifted its focus towards creating an ecosystem of services, which do not align with user preferences for simplicity and direct control. While I understand the benefits of cloud integration and a connected experience, I miss the straightforward usability that Windows 7 offered.

 

[KyaraM]

It's not just that. Having downgraded from W11 to W10 there are noticeable performance issues with W11 such as when you right click on the context menu and applications even W11 default application such as Control Panel and other system components are slow and the snappiness of W10 is gone.

I'll hold out for, maybe W12 or until "free" software vendors like Google for (Chrome) and others won't allow me to upgrade their applications.

No idea what you are talking about, honestly... feels the exact same to me. Actually, when right-clicking on a program on my Win 10 work laptop (12th gen Intel, so not old by any means), I get the doughnut and have to wait over a second forthe menu to open. Don't have that with my Win 11 machines.

Hahah... yeah. I'd wager that most that complain about how bad W11 is have never actually installed it. I personally think it's the best Windows ever... and I started with W95.

A thread yesterday had a W7 user saying that both W10 and W11 were horrible.

That's my experience, too...

Most of the rest probably come from people who use it and complain just to complain, usually about nonissues.

And all the peoblems people here complain about with Win 11 are issues I have either exclusively, or also, on my Win 10 machines... very often it sounds like rose-colored glasses to me.

I can see how some might find Windows 11 to be an improvement, and it's great to hear that you're enjoying it. However, my experience has been different, particularly when it comes to the search functionality. Since Windows 8, and continuing with through to Windows 11, I've felt that the integration of online search results when using the Windows key is a step back from the local search efficiency we had in Windows 7. This change compelled me to use a third-party app like Everything.exe to quickly find local files.

And same with microsoft office😡, push towards cloud integration in Office has introduced extra steps for saving a file locally. I prefer the traditional file explorer interface for saving documents, and the new default cloud-saving option adds unnecessary clicks to my workflow. Microsoft has shifted its focus towards creating an ecosystem of services, which do not align with user preferences for simplicity and direct control. While I understand the benefits of cloud integration and a connected experience, I miss the straightforward usability that Windows 7 offered.

You know you can turn off online search?

How to turn off "Search the Web" results in Windows 11 - gHacks Tech News

Find out how to disable the web-based search results that Windows 11 displays when you run searches from the Start Menu.

www.ghacks.net

I agree that the saving interface in 365 and other, newer bought options of Office aren't great, though. Sasly, it doesn't matter what Windows version you use for that.

 

[kyzarvs]

I can see how some might find Windows 11 to be an improvement, and it's great to hear that you're enjoying it. However, my experience has been different, particularly when it comes to the search functionality. Since Windows 8, and continuing with through to Windows 11, I've felt that the integration of online search results when using the Windows key is a step back from the local search efficiency we had in Windows 7. This change compelled me to use a third-party app like Everything.exe to quickly find local files.

And same with microsoft office😡, push towards cloud integration in Office has introduced extra steps for saving a file locally. I prefer the traditional file explorer interface for saving documents, and the new default cloud-saving option adds unnecessary clicks to my workflow. Microsoft has shifted its focus towards creating an ecosystem of services, which do not align with user preferences for simplicity and direct control. While I understand the benefits of cloud integration and a connected experience, I miss the straightforward usability that Windows 7 offered.

As a busy Office user, I completely agree with that.

I use Outlook 2019 on one machine and the O365 apps on another. I have an (I guess you'd call it still) Exchange account + 4 other IMAP accounts and receive roughly 250-300 mails a day. 2019 is pretty good, but the 365 app is barely useable - frequent display glitches where part of the screen either doesn't display or is displayed multiple times, frequent crashes and lot's of issues with settings randomly appearing / disappearing. The pure web-based version is fine for single accounts, or mailboxes that aren't that busy, but if you depend on getting through a lot of emails every day so you can finish your day on time, it's a grim picture at the moment. I also agree on online - if you work the MS way, then it's not bad, but woe betide you if you want to do things in your own way, or have another service you want to save to.

I also use W11 on multiple machines and that's my rub with the "just do x / y / z to change things" crowd, which used to be a big problem with the Linux desktop advice - I have a day job, I want to spend minimal time faffing with the O/S and as much time as possible making money so I can finish work on time each day. Not having quicklaunch for example is just dumb - it takes up much less space and doesn't move around like adding things to the taskbar does. It was great in XP-10, why remove it? Why have the taskbar un-scaleable? Performance is OK - I tend to find it adapts to low-spec machines well, but actually is slower on bigger kit than 10. I find the increasing obtuseness of being able to get to detailed settings very tedious and I have less than zero interest in AI on my desktop. I don't like the increasing reliance on web access and the relentless push to only work the MS way, I would prefer an O/S to help me, not force me.

 

[cyrusfox]

You know you can turn off online search?

How to turn off "Search the Web" results in Windows 11 - gHacks Tech News

Find out how to disable the web-based search results that Windows 11 displays when you run searches from the Start Menu.

www.ghacks.net

I agree that the saving interface in 365 and other, newer bought options of Office aren't great, though. Sasly, it doesn't matter what Windows version you use for that.

I have toggled that since day one, it still shows web results, the article even states as much:

Just turn off the options on the page and run a search; you will notice that results from Bing web searches are still included.

Its been broke since Windows 8... Once again Windows 7 was the pinnacle in terms of user efficiency and design, choices since then have been a downgrade

 

[KyaraM]

I have toggled that since day one, it still shows web results, the article even states as much:

Its been broke since Windows 8... Once again Windows 7 was the pinnacle in terms of user efficiency and design, choices since then have been a downgrade

This article might also be of interest to you:
https://www.tomshardware.com/laptop...ection-remove-web-results-from-windows-search

It dives into permanently and actually disabling web results from search, plus some other nice stuff.