we change new cellhpone every year. why is it so hard for you to upgrade your os? money on upgrading a new os is way cheaper than buying a new iphone anyway. technology move on. if you still believe that win xp is too good for you. please keep using it til the end of the earth.
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It's cool that they're adding new features, but I probably won't use this one. I'd rather just use a raid setup. However, if they allow you complete control over how it saves the backups, then it might be worthwhile.
Honestly, I'd be more impressed if they streamlined their "free" program package. Windows Media player is a joke compared to iTunes. Windows movie maker is crap, Windows Live Messenger is kinda blah, there's no windows product that competes with garage band (even though I use Ableton and Cubase... but still). The package that comes with windows is a bit lacking, but I do prefer Win 7 to OSX for most things.
Honestly, I'd be more impressed if they streamlined their "free" program package. Windows Media player is a joke compared to iTunes. Windows movie maker is crap, Windows Live Messenger is kinda blah, there's no windows product that competes with garage band (even though I use Ableton and Cubase... but still). The package that comes with windows is a bit lacking, but I do prefer Win 7 to OSX for most things.
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[citation][nom]dimamu15[/nom]People are complaining... wtf? Price is the matter? I am 19, been using pc since 13, never bought a one damn licensed thing. Especially when it comes to OS.[/citation]
You're the idiot here. Price isn't a problem because you can just steal it?
Nice argument moron.
You're the idiot here. Price isn't a problem because you can just steal it?
Nice argument moron.
[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]It's obvious you're 19. You're grammar is proof that the US Educational system has completely failed.The "cascade" feature was added to Windows before you were born. You have been using computers since you were 13? That means you completely missed the launch of WindowsXP and discovered computers during the WindowsXP SP1 stage, after 90% of the major bugs reported during beta tested were finally fixed. At launch time, the stability and performance of WindowsXP only rivaled that of WindowsME. What you people call stability, is pretty entertaining. WindowsXP still can't compare to Windows3.1 on the basis of stability.[/citation]
3.1 Sucked ASS dude!!, What are you talking about. Was barely stable and a pain in the ass to use. Why even bring it up?
3.1 Sucked ASS dude!!, What are you talking about. Was barely stable and a pain in the ass to use. Why even bring it up?
[citation][nom]pelov[/nom]what about price? ~$150 for windows 7 is a lot for the average joe who only uses his PC to check his email, watch a few videos on youtube and shop online. Remember linux is free, faster, smaller and safer.The release is just too close to windows 7 to draw a lot of folks to windows 8. From what I've seen there's not much that's being added to 8 that would pry me from ubuntu or 7, never mind at the regular MS price tag.[/citation]
Microsoft's new strategy is following Apples OS strategy, evolutionary upgrades/improments every year. Works fine for the consumer space but the enterprise it will be tough to keep up with that schedule. Apple does it because they do not have a enterprise focus as much. Their end users buy it.
Microsoft's new strategy is following Apples OS strategy, evolutionary upgrades/improments every year. Works fine for the consumer space but the enterprise it will be tough to keep up with that schedule. Apple does it because they do not have a enterprise focus as much. Their end users buy it.
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It's quite funny how people get so worked up about a feature that isn't even confirmed to be in the OS yet. Frankly, I would love something like this in Windows. It's about time the Windows camp had a decent backup solution included with the OS. The current one in Windows 7 is alright, but I still prefer alternate imaging programs like Clonezilla.
To all those who gawk at the hard drive space issue, stop being so cheap and buy a 1.5TB drive. It will set you back roughly the cost of an OEM Windows 7 Home Premium license. If you can't afford this, you have bigger problems. Stop stealing your neighbors wireless and go deal with them.
To all those who gawk at the hard drive space issue, stop being so cheap and buy a 1.5TB drive. It will set you back roughly the cost of an OEM Windows 7 Home Premium license. If you can't afford this, you have bigger problems. Stop stealing your neighbors wireless and go deal with them.
COMODO TIME MACHINE...............very powerful, it works on a layer ABOVE windows & its free!!!
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MS is seeming to be very careful this time around in the development of Windows 8, they don't want another whole Windows Vista on their hands, they are keeping Windows 8 humble by updating it modestly from Windows 7. This time around they are going with the if it works don't fix it attitude instead of the rethink everything attitude they did with Windows Vista
[citation][nom]memadmax[/nom]After the Vista disaster, Windows 7 makes up for it pretty good. But you still can't pry XP from my cold dead hands. If 8 can finally outperform XP then we'll see.....[/citation]
What kind of crap computer are you using? Windows 7 starts faster and runs faster than my old copy of XP ever did... on the exact same hardware.
What kind of crap computer are you using? Windows 7 starts faster and runs faster than my old copy of XP ever did... on the exact same hardware.
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[citation][nom]iam2thecrowe[/nom]if i can turn it off then its fine with me. I want a streamlined system that doesnt constantly access my hard drive, need 4gb ram and 50gb of hard drive space just to run the damn OS. Microsoft, please stop making your OS's full of crap that no one uses.[/citation]
Microsoft already has a similar feature "shadow copies" and system restore. The difference is that they're stored on the drive where the data is located. This new version will allow to store on another drive.
Also it's always good to have backups. Everything is well when it's working well, but it there's a hard drive failure most people "panic".
Microsoft already has a similar feature "shadow copies" and system restore. The difference is that they're stored on the drive where the data is located. This new version will allow to store on another drive.
Also it's always good to have backups. Everything is well when it's working well, but it there's a hard drive failure most people "panic".
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[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]what did vista and 7 add to windows? ill admit that if you weren't someone who used windows sences 95, it probably somewhat better.but seriously, windows vista was unusable, from a gaming standpoint without major tweaks. i mention gaming, because microsoft tried to get people to upgrade by making dx 10 ONLY work on vista at the time. windows 7 softens the blow that vista had, but going from xp to it... yea... i hate 7. so much changed for no reason at all. i don't have a machine that i alone use 7, so i cant tweak it, but every time that i use my family machines, EVERY TIME i audibly say "F#$%ING 7". there has not been one time that i was using 7 and i didn't hit something i hate, or it did something stupid for the sake of "convenience"i wont argue with people, as somehow, xp uses less resources and is more functional than vista or 7 for me (minus trim, and dx11) id is all around better than vista/7 falls o deaf ears.[/citation]
Windows 95 is also faster than Windows XP. Why don't you use it instead?
Windows 95 is also faster than Windows XP. Why don't you use it instead?
[citation][nom]bison88[/nom]Nothing is going to "beat" Windows XP when you take modern hardware components and put them on a 10 year old OS. I'm not going to go into how an older operating system is naturally going to use fewer system resources because it'll just spark a flame war using Vista as a failure. Microsoft has a Intel style "tick tock" cycle. Major upgrade followed by a minor one where Vista was major and Windows 7 was minor and Windows 8 is supposed to be major. As far as disk space being an excuse. Wake up people. TeraByte drives are common place and extremely affordable, stop being stingy.[/citation]
XP is for dirt poor noobs who cant upgrade their old hardware and are afraid of Linux. XP is only good for legacy business apps. Anyway Win7 is a must have for TRIM support.
Its like bringing up RAM usage... with (2x4gb) DDR-3 1600 RAM going for under 100$ its kind of pathetic.
XP is for dirt poor noobs who cant upgrade their old hardware and are afraid of Linux. XP is only good for legacy business apps. Anyway Win7 is a must have for TRIM support.
Its like bringing up RAM usage... with (2x4gb) DDR-3 1600 RAM going for under 100$ its kind of pathetic.
Windows Vista/7 already has something like that... it's called previous versions. It keeps multiple previous copies of files and folders on your computer. It requires you to have professional or higher.
That feature has been available on servers since Windows 2003. Time machine and Apple wasn't the first to do this, they only had better publicity about it.
That feature has been available on servers since Windows 2003. Time machine and Apple wasn't the first to do this, they only had better publicity about it.
[citation][nom]ProDigit10[/nom]Great, again a space waster on windows!If they could keep the modifications safe, that would be a huge difference, eg: of a certain text file, only keep the data that was modified, and where it goes. Then compress that data.I'm not too fond of having a WIndows 8, taking up 6GB of disk space, and an additional 14GB of data that can only expand, take CPU and HD cycles!Man,are the good guys at MS gone, and now there are only gadget geeks doing the programming?"Less is more" does not seem to count with MS.They're only satisfied by bringing an OS that no system can run due to it's complexity, and stuff people really don't need!I don't call this innovation, I call this degeneration![/citation]
To be fair, this is a Microsoft tradition. Somehow create even slower version than the previous, that don't do anything people want. It's done well for them, and it's not that easy to do. How do you make something even slower than Windows Vista? You think you could do it? Well, Microsoft did with Windows 7 (despite buffoons ignoring this, it's documented in many places), and that's real talent. Yet, people talk about it like it's actually much faster. Again, there's a talent there (I guess more marketing than anything), but regardless, Microsoft has been selling inferior software for a lot of years, and been very successful at it. Why change a winning formula?
To be fair, this is a Microsoft tradition. Somehow create even slower version than the previous, that don't do anything people want. It's done well for them, and it's not that easy to do. How do you make something even slower than Windows Vista? You think you could do it? Well, Microsoft did with Windows 7 (despite buffoons ignoring this, it's documented in many places), and that's real talent. Yet, people talk about it like it's actually much faster. Again, there's a talent there (I guess more marketing than anything), but regardless, Microsoft has been selling inferior software for a lot of years, and been very successful at it. Why change a winning formula?
[citation][nom]The_Prophecy[/nom]It's quite funny how people get so worked up about a feature that isn't even confirmed to be in the OS yet. Frankly, I would love something like this in Windows. It's about time the Windows camp had a decent backup solution included with the OS. The current one in Windows 7 is alright, but I still prefer alternate imaging programs like Clonezilla. To all those who gawk at the hard drive space issue, stop being so cheap and buy a 1.5TB drive. It will set you back roughly the cost of an OEM Windows 7 Home Premium license. If you can't afford this, you have bigger problems. Stop stealing your neighbors wireless and go deal with them.[/citation]
That makes no sense. If they stop stealing their neighbor's wireless they'll have less money, not more.
This isn't a full solution anyway. You want backups to be removable, not on the same hard disk as the original file. The reasons should be obvious.
That makes no sense. If they stop stealing their neighbor's wireless they'll have less money, not more.
This isn't a full solution anyway. You want backups to be removable, not on the same hard disk as the original file. The reasons should be obvious.
[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]To be fair, this is a Microsoft tradition. Somehow create even slower version than the previous, that don't do anything people want. It's done well for them, and it's not that easy to do. How do you make something even slower than Windows Vista? You think you could do it? Well, Microsoft did with Windows 7 (despite buffoons ignoring this, it's documented in many places), and that's real talent. Yet, people talk about it like it's actually much faster. Again, there's a talent there (I guess more marketing than anything), but regardless, Microsoft has been selling inferior software for a lot of years, and been very successful at it. Why change a winning formula?[/citation]
People whined about Vista because they tough their P4 were still cutting edge... Win7 is marginally faster, even though I couldn't care less... Get a decent computer or install Ubuntu and be done. I find Windows 7 to be quite fast when its put on a proper machine (a 2500K @ 4.5GHz, 8Gb RAM @1600MHz, SF1200 powered SSD and a GTX 470 is enough to render Aero)
People whined about Vista because they tough their P4 were still cutting edge... Win7 is marginally faster, even though I couldn't care less... Get a decent computer or install Ubuntu and be done. I find Windows 7 to be quite fast when its put on a proper machine (a 2500K @ 4.5GHz, 8Gb RAM @1600MHz, SF1200 powered SSD and a GTX 470 is enough to render Aero)
[citation][nom]iam2thecrowe[/nom]I want a streamlined system that doesnt constantly access my hard drive, need 4gb ram and 50gb of hard drive space just to run the damn OS.[/citation]
Is your 80GB drive getting filled up? Um, I haven't seen a drive produced with under 500GB is 2 years, the current standard is >= 1TB. What possible difference could it make if the OS is 10, 50 or even 100GB? Does the idea of it just keep you awake at night?
Is your 80GB drive getting filled up? Um, I haven't seen a drive produced with under 500GB is 2 years, the current standard is >= 1TB. What possible difference could it make if the OS is 10, 50 or even 100GB? Does the idea of it just keep you awake at night?
A nice little freebie to the small business owners who don't want to invest in a proper backup system, and if it can be more or less locked down so viruses can't infiltrate (you know like a vault) it would be leaps and bounds better then using system restore.
It amazes me as a Windows 7 user how many people go around saying: "I'll never switch to 7 XP runs faster and more stable." It's kinda like when I used XP (back when we called it whistler) and every one was saying "I'll never switch to XP, 98 runs faster and more stable." and I'm sure that was true for people who migrated early or at all from 95 to 98 and so on. XP is a great OS, and perhaps the best MS has or will ever produce, but that doesn't mean it's the be all end all. I still go in and disable all of the display effects and almost every advanced feature in XP so it will run nice and crisp for my users.
If you want to see XP the way it was designed to run; install XP on 10 year old hardware (600MHz P3 w/ 256MB of RAM doubles XP's system requirements) and see how bloated XP really is compared to 98 running on the same hardware. All new software will require beefier hardware then the last generation, new software features are created to take advantages of changes/advances in the hardware. Storage is cheap now so adding a feature that will eat up space like a history vault makes sense, Aero was designed because most on-board graphics systems could handle it and it added to the user experience. Windows 8 will have features that require updated hardware, this is good for hardware companies (which is good for us all) and if you like the added features it's good for you too.
If you want a new OS that uses fewer resources and only has features you want learn to compile your own Linux distros; otherwise learn to deal with the fact that every new OS will have issues until the first service pack (well not ME and for many Vista) and will need double or triple the resources of the last edition to power features you may or may not use.
It amazes me as a Windows 7 user how many people go around saying: "I'll never switch to 7 XP runs faster and more stable." It's kinda like when I used XP (back when we called it whistler) and every one was saying "I'll never switch to XP, 98 runs faster and more stable." and I'm sure that was true for people who migrated early or at all from 95 to 98 and so on. XP is a great OS, and perhaps the best MS has or will ever produce, but that doesn't mean it's the be all end all. I still go in and disable all of the display effects and almost every advanced feature in XP so it will run nice and crisp for my users.
If you want to see XP the way it was designed to run; install XP on 10 year old hardware (600MHz P3 w/ 256MB of RAM doubles XP's system requirements) and see how bloated XP really is compared to 98 running on the same hardware. All new software will require beefier hardware then the last generation, new software features are created to take advantages of changes/advances in the hardware. Storage is cheap now so adding a feature that will eat up space like a history vault makes sense, Aero was designed because most on-board graphics systems could handle it and it added to the user experience. Windows 8 will have features that require updated hardware, this is good for hardware companies (which is good for us all) and if you like the added features it's good for you too.
If you want a new OS that uses fewer resources and only has features you want learn to compile your own Linux distros; otherwise learn to deal with the fact that every new OS will have issues until the first service pack (well not ME and for many Vista) and will need double or triple the resources of the last edition to power features you may or may not use.
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[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]To be fair, this is a Microsoft tradition. Somehow create even slower version than the previous, that don't do anything people want. It's done well for them, and it's not that easy to do. How do you make something even slower than Windows Vista? You think you could do it? Well, Microsoft did with Windows 7 (despite buffoons ignoring this, it's documented in many places), and that's real talent. Yet, people talk about it like it's actually much faster. Again, there's a talent there (I guess more marketing than anything), but regardless, Microsoft has been selling inferior software for a lot of years, and been very successful at it. Why change a winning formula?[/citation]
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