Belardo :
You had many through most of your post until you started retarded neo-con political crap which wasn't needed nor the same thing. And get your facts straight before re-posting right-wing crap.
A) Are you NUTZ? So what you are saying, let CHINA make everything for *US*, lets not build anything in the USA.... that's bullshit. We need jobs in the USA and to do that, we need companies making American-made stuff for Americans. So with you, its "let china make it with their slave labor".
B) About oil? Jobs, pollution, rights don't matter as long as you have your oil. Look up real facts....
(1) Oil production for the past 1~2 years is higher than it ever has been under GWBush (You know, the retard who started the Iraq war based on lies = $3Trillion debt and 4400+ dead Americans).
(2) Oil companies are the most profitable in the world.
(3) We made so much OIL - that *IT WAS / IS* being exported to other countries like CHINA.
(4) Oil is a commodity, its not local. Oil drilled here or there, doesn't effect pricing. (re-read #1 and #3) - we can double oil production, it still won't make it $1 a gallon.
(5) Oil company wants their profits, we are used to paying $3+ per gallon. Why would they want to lower the price? After all, this is capitalism at its best.
(6) Oil companies get their hand-outs in billions of tax breaks. How much did Exxon pay in taxes?
(7) Oil is NOT infinite. Its limited, we are RUNNING out of oil to drill. This is EASY to prove:
How *DO* we know that oil supplies are drying up in TWO words: OFFSHORE DRILLING
Why the hell would anyone spend about 5X time money to drill for oil in the ocean? As we already witness several times, blow-outs are difficult to cap and causes tons of damage. (Think that is free?)
Solar and Win power *IS* infinite / re-new-able. Are those HARD words to understand?! Once the wind-farm is built, it continues to work... just maintenance is required. Oil drilling requires contant searching and drilling. Coal mining requires constant mining.
When a windmill fails, it stops working until a tech replaces/repairs something. When a drill fails = fire, death and millions of gallons of oil everywhere.
Even the Saudi's are NOT THAT STUPID when it comes to oil/re-newable energy. They are building super-solar stations (its not like they have lots of farm-land) to then re-sell to Europe.
Yes Solar and Wind power is STILL new... but they don't create pollution, they are safer and will eventually become cheaper. Especially if every home had a solar/wind generator - even better.
So... stop thinking its 1950. We know more now than we did back then. There *IS NO FUTURE* in oil.
ROFL. I'm saying you can't compete with slave labor & attempting to do so will only lose you money until they stop it. It's not right wing crap if it's the truth. You're right we need jobs, so quit blocking ON SHORE drilling. Oil towns in usa don't have an employment problem, or did you miss that? Coal being shutdown right an left too (check out virginia etc they have ghost towns now). We have a LOT of years left in oil and coal to give us plenty of time to come up with renewable energy supplies. Clamping down on it now however, is killing the economy and keeping people from work. We have a long time before we run out of oil. Sorry, you're incorrect. However we can't afford to keep paying others for 1/2 of it.
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=727&t=6
Note sure where you get your numbers, but according to the govt, we import 1/2 our oil and 60% of the oil refined in this country is from OUTSIDE the USA. We are trying to drill offshore because some prick won't give permits for ONSHORE on ANY federal land. The only reason oil is UP in production is PRIVATE land which he can't stop (or he would!). If we started drilling more the cost comes down when opec etc gets scared.
What's retarded about not wanting to pay for 50% of our oil from other sources? What's retarded about putting people to work in our OWN country drilling and fracking? It's retarded to pay other countries for stuff we already have but just aren't using. Using it would put people back to work. The pipeline would also lower cost and put 10000+ back to work but that got blocked by you know who also. We're very good today at the searching/drilling/mining/fracking. The problem is we're not doing much of it. Apparently you have no idea how many permits have been blocked by obama for ONSHORE drilling eh?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/oct/16/picket-flashback-oil-drilling-permits-down-36-perc/
They were up a ton under bush and gas was $1.80. You not understanding the math here? Stop oil permits, gas goes to $4. Give them out freely it costs $2 for bush's terms. He leaves office boom $4...LOL. Not quite sure why you can't get that. Your numbers don't make sense, nor your statements.
We are running out of oil to drill because he keeps blocking off land. Not because the oil isn't there:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443768804578040873921142716.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
11.5million acres just BLOCKED in August...Do the math. Tons of oil, he just won't let us touch it.
""the largest wholesale land withdrawal and blocking of access to an energy resource by the federal government in decades." This decision, they add, "will cause serious harm to the economy and energy security of the United States, as well as to the state of Alaska." Mr. Begich is a Democrat. "
ROFL...A democrat calling Obama out...Is he a Neocon too? The entire Alaskan delegation was against this! You're either misinformed or misrepresenting the facts my friend. Same article:
"The problem isn't that Alaska is running out of oil but that federal rules are preventing the state from developing those resources. No matter what Mr. Obama says now, in a second term his great Alaska energy shutout will continue."
So not running out then eh? That's happening all over the USA. This is why gas has been $4.
Not quite sure how you got to war/anti bush stuff and why you went into our debt (not a good argument), but Obama has spent twice (6-7Trillion now) that and got more killed. Not defending the syrians (arming rebels)=30000 dead while we essentially watched. Obama got another 2000 US killed in afghanistan + the number is higher in Iraq now too, so him and bush are about equal on US dead. I didn't like Bush's spending habits, but I hate Obama's 4x as much (just like his 4x bush's spending...LOL). We didn't go to war for oil as you seem to suggest, and haven't collected a DROP free since iraq. Also note it only took obama 3yrs to double Bush's 8yrs with wars/katrina etc. In the next 4 he'll spend more than all other presidents combined. WOW. Welfare people exploding etc. Jobless % terrible for 4 years, 2 credit downgrades (1st time in US history). It's only getting worse. Canada has more millionaires than USA now...ROFL. WTF? We don't have the money to test tons of new energy sources now, but we have plenty of time to do that WHEN WE CAN AFFORD IT. Right now we need what works and what we KNOW. Exxon paid about as much as Apple I guess...LOL. Not sure what tax breaks have to do with what I said as I wasn't defending tax breaks (and don't think they need them, but whatever). However, if we updated refineries (or heck built some NEW ones), and got our oil HERE it would drop to a buck. No new refineries built since 1976! :
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/on-energy/2011/07/29/no-new-oil-refineries-since-the-1970s-but-capacity-has-grown
Also we don't pay for the drilling, private companies do. They don't drill empty holes on purpose and not on our dime. Your renewable energy crap though, IS ON MY DIME! And it's failing right and left costing us BILLIONS. We are talking about two different things here. The 90Billion our president has spent on this crap dwarfs the tax breaks you mention and brought NOTHING but a tax bill to americans. Fisker didn't make one car in America before closing their plant (their A123 batteries filed bankruptcy recently too)...So that crap doesn't produce jobs either.

Private industry needs to pay for this stuff (or not if you can't make money on it), not YOU OR ME. I'm against my money paying for it (basically vegas gambling with my taxes), not American companies trying to do it on their dime. You misunderstand my point of view. Nothing is infinite if you have to pay for upkeep. Solar costs so much I wouldn't make a dime putting it on my roof for 15yrs. It's not economical unless you're a business (who may be around long enough to recoup the costs of going green). But go ahead and put one on your roof
Environment? Don't those windmills kill birds?...LOL. I couldn't care less about animals etc if it means we go broke saving one. America first, animals/environment second. I'll wipe my a$$ with a spotted owl if it puts people back to work thanks
😉 FYI, George Bush has 2 degrees. One from Yale (BA in history), the other from Harvard (Master's in business - the only president with one AFAIK). I'd venture to guess he's brighter than you
😉 Despite his lack of speaking prowess. Might want to look up a person's history or education before you dis them, even though I didn't mention bush (or did I?). You can't get those two degrees being retarded. Like Bush, you should know your country's history
😉 Either way, I was speaking for the country's interests not GWB's.

The comparison was made between MS & Obama because it was so easy.
My bad, Exxon actually a higher tax rate by far, almost double in fact than apple:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2012/04/16/which-megacorps-pay-megataxes/
42.9% of their profits went to taxes. Which BTW was THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY. WOW. Apple came it at #9 with 24%....Sorry, you're wrong again. Quit drinking the cool-aid. The top 3 oil companies paid more tax than any other companies in the country
😉 Those companies (& rich people) who make money HIRE people like us because they need us. If they didn't make money, they wouldn't hire correct? We done here?