[SOLVED] windows dont't start up after changing my graphics card

[roperope]

hello,

i hav a a 10 years old gaming computer that runs fine until now.
these are the components in the pc:

my young son plays fortnite on it without any problems but after the last update it won't start up, because it needs a minimum DX11 feature level from the graphics card
so looked for any update for that but after the update the problem remains the same
so i bought a new graphics card the nvidia geforce GT 1030.
but after i replaced the old card with the new one, my windows(windows8.1) get stuck on the windows logo
i tried everything i know to make the card work but nothing helped. and when i replace the old card back in my windows starts perfectly.
also i tried looking for updates for the motherboard :foxconn renaissance II but i dont find any working support site from foxconn

does anyone know whats the problem is here and how can i fix it? do i need to buy another graphics card or is the problem the old motherboard?

geetings
Rope

 

[PC Tailor]

Welcome to the forums my friend!

Did you clear all previous drivers using DDU prior to installing the Gt1030?

 

[roperope]

Welcome to the forums my friend!

Did you clear all previous drivers using DDU prior to installing the Gt1030?

no i just removed it from the device manager

 

[PC Tailor]

Often this doesn't clear all drivers or background services associated with the GPU, it is always best practice to remove using software such as DDU prior to installing the new GPU to prevent conflict:

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
You'll want to opt for the "Safe Mode" option when you come to uninstalling.

You can see the DDU guide here:
https://forums.tomshardware.com/faq...n-install-of-your-video-card-drivers.2402269/

Then feedback and we can progress if the issue hasn't been solved my friend

 

[roperope]

Often this doesn't clear all drivers or background services associated with the GPU, it is always best practice to remove using software such as DDU prior to installing the new GPU to prevent conflict:

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
You'll want to opt for the "Safe Mode" option when you come to uninstalling.

You can see the DDU guide here:
https://forums.tomshardware.com/faq...n-install-of-your-video-card-drivers.2402269/

Then feedback and we can progress if the issue hasn't been solved my friend

hallo PC Tailor

I used the DDU unistaller and it worked , now i can get windows to start up but it takes about 20 min to start up windows and it took me 2 hours!!! to install the drivers for the gt 1030
so there must be something wrong here . my pc goes extremely slow when i use the new GPU card.

i have performance monitor running and it shows me that my cpu is running all the time at 100% when i use the new card.
or is it possible thats because i am using a pci 3.0 card in a pci 2.0 slot?
or the other reason i could think off is the old card used 2 power cables but the new one don't need any so it used the power from the pci slot to run.


maby you have a other reason and solution for me

thanks
rope

 

[PC Tailor]

Well you are running a 2008 processor with a newer generation graphics card, so there could be a compatibility issue.
It could also be causing some conflicts in the background generally.

I'd toggle fast boot if you are able to, I would also make sure all other drivers are up to date.
Being as you are installing a new GPU in an old system, I'd also be tempted to update the BIOS but you should only do this when you are comfortable, there is every possibility that the new GPU is conflicting with your firmware.

You'll also want to disable all unnecessary start up apps. Perform disk cleanups and defrags and check the health of your drives generally.

It MAY be worth trying another PCIe slot if you have one. But generally using newer technology on dated boards can often cause problems.

 

[roperope]

Well you are running a 2008 processor with a newer generation graphics card, so there could be a compatibility issue.
It could also be causing some conflicts in the background generally.

I'd toggle fast boot if you are able to, I would also make sure all other drivers are up to date.
Being as you are installing a new GPU in an old system, I'd also be tempted to update the BIOS but you should only do this when you are comfortable, there is every possibility that the new GPU is conflicting with your firmware.

You'll also want to disable all unnecessary start up apps. Perform disk cleanups and defrags and check the health of your drives generally.

It MAY be worth trying another PCIe slot if you have one. But generally using newer technology on dated boards can often cause problems.

i have tried to look for a new bios version on the foxconn suport site but i seems like the site does not longer exist so i cant find any bios update for my foxconn renaissance II board.

so i send the new card back to the store for a refund,

but now do i even try a other older card like this one "ASUS R7240 2GD3L or ASUS R7240 4GD3L" that runs with dx 11 so my son can play fortnite or am i wasting my time by trying a other card and best start looking for a new pc?

 

[PC Tailor]

i have tried to look for a new bios version on the foxconn suport site but i seems like the site does not longer exist so i cant find any bios update for my foxconn renaissance II board.

so i send the new card back to the store for a refund,

but now do i even try a other older card like this one "ASUS R7240 2GD3L or ASUS R7240 4GD3L" that runs with dx 11 so my son can play fortnite or am i wasting my time by trying a other card and best start looking for a new pc?

Honestly you could try, but for the price of technology nowadays, there is no real reason to NOT get a new PC.
You don't even need high end to compete with older high end. Even a G4560 outperforms the i7 920 in many applications and is such a minimal cost in reality.

 

[cherry blossoms]

For the AMD R7 240, seems to be compatible, but still, slow and choppy., a video of a R7 250 and I7920 in fortnite:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS5uHEiDEfM


Possibly a GTX 960 if you can find one cheap? (and if your BIOS behaves nicely with it ? The 9xx series seems to behave better with a UEFI bios. Ran into that on some Z68 chipset motherboards until they were upgraded to UEFI compliant BIOS)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVnb5YFMLw8


Considering the age of the hardware and probable memory, a more modern system would probably do better for the buck (as PC Tailor indicated)